Pokémon Spinoff: Pokemon XG (First Ever Pokemon XD hack)

StarsMmd · Jul 19, 2016

Stormzy said:
Just popping in to say this is bloody awesome, loved the gamecube spinoffs.

Thanks, that's much appreciated. The gamecube games were so good but often under appreciated.

face235 · Jul 23, 2016

Wii modding is incredibly easy. Just make sure that your Wii has Gamecube controller slots. It's much easier that way.

1. You can find the instructions on YouTube, follow them to the letter!
2. You'll need a good size SD Card for the Wii. A 32GB should do quite nicely.
3. If you plan to have a lot of games, an external hard drive is a must. Thankfully, you can get a 1TB for under $70, and they're the kind that do not need to be plugged in to the wall.
4. Format both the SD Card and the HDD to Fat32 with 64K Clusters. You may have to go online and find a Fat32 formatter for the HDD. Set the partition to active or else it won't work.

Once that's done, stop and take a break! There's still a few more things to do.

5. On your HDD, create a file named, games. That's where your GAMECUBE games will go. Do not put the folder in any other folder, have it at the root of the HDD/SD Card.
6. You will need two apps for the Homebrew Channel. The Configurable USB Loader (v70r78.10) and Nintendont. You will have to go online and download them and place them in the "apps" folder. You can customize CFG USB Loader to use Nintendont when loading GC games.

The next step is very important!!!

7. If you download a Gamecube game off the internet, the ISO file must be renamed game. The name of the folder that it's in is fine, as long as the game's ID is in the filename. Pokémon XD's ID is [GXXE01]. The ISO size should always be around 1.36GB, this is true for all Gamecube games. Put the folder inside games.

Now that that's done, copy the folder somewhere on your computer.

Also note that when applying the UPS patch, it will take a few minutes to work, so don't panic. It is normal for such a large game to take a while to be patched.

If done correctly, Pokémon XD will show up on both CFG Loader and Nintendont. Fire it up, and if you see Pokémon XG: Next Gen on the title screen, job well done.

Mochorro · Jul 23, 2016

face235 said:
Wii modding is incredibly easy. Just make sure that your Wii has Gamecube controller slots. It's much easier that way.

1. You can find the instructions on YouTube, follow them to the letter!
2. You'll need a good size SD Card for the Wii. A 32GB should do quite nicely.
3. If you plan to have a lot of games, an external hard drive is a must. Thankfully, you can get a 1TB for under $70, and they're the kind that do not need to be plugged in to the wall.
4. Format both the SD Card and the HDD to Fat32 with 64K Clusters. You may have to go online and find a Fat32 formatter for the HDD. Set the partition to active or else it won't work.

Once that's done, stop and take a break! There's still a few more things to do.

5. On your HDD, create a file named, games. That's where your GAMECUBE games will go. Do not put the folder in any other folder, have it at the root of the HDD/SD Card.
6. You will need two apps for the Homebrew Channel. The Configurable USB Loader (v70r78.10) and Nintendont. You will have to go online and download them and place them in the "apps" folder. You can customize CFG USB Loader to use Nintendont when loading GC games.

The next step is very important!!!

7. If you download a Gamecube game off the internet, the ISO file must be renamed game. The name of the folder that it's in is fine, as long as the game's ID is in the filename. Pokémon XD's ID is [GXXE01]. The ISO size should always be around 1.36GB, this is true for all Gamecube games. Put the folder inside games.

Now that that's done, copy the folder somewhere on your computer.

Also note that when applying the UPS patch, it will take a few minutes to work, so don't panic. It is normal for such a large game to take a while to be patched.

If done correctly, Pokémon XD will show up on both CFG Loader and Nintendont. Fire it up, and if you see Pokémon XG: Next Gen on the title screen, job well done.

Well, I already have a GameCube, I don't want Nintendont for many games, just this one and maybe a few more some time later, so I am not planning to spend money. I used a 2GB SD Card to install Homebrew Channel in my Wii, using the letterbomb method... Is that wrong? I read it's possible to load iso games from an external USB but I am not sure if that's true...

Now I have to install Nintendont, which seems harder than I thought. Tutorials are for a quite old version of the emulator, is it easy to update?

EDIT: Ok, it's nothing, I am quite dumb... I got it to work and it goes really well as of now! I reached Agate Village without any trouble, amazing game so far! Pokémon get strong moves so fast! Spoiler because I talk about shadow Pokémon here!

Spoiler:

The new set of shadow moves is really cool, that is something that was lacking in the original, so seeing you worked on it is amazing. I will play this very very fast I guess, a hack of my favourite Pokémon game ever... And after waiting for so long I got it working!

face235 · Jul 24, 2016

If you're not doing a lot of games, then a flash drive will do the trick. Your 2GB SD Card will work quite well for Pokémon XG, however, you don't have space for any more GC games.

I forgot to mention that you can use CFG USB Loader to dump your physical Gamecube games, so that they can be played via Nintendont.

EDIT: There is a version of Nintendont that runs on the Gamecube, might be worth looking into. Although the Gamecube isn't as easy to hack as the Wii is.

toddthegreat · Jul 24, 2016

this is a first pokemon xd galle of darkness hack

StarsMmd · Jul 24, 2016

Mochorro said:
Spoiler:

Poochyena getting Crunch so early, wow! a move for the whole game if someone is training it, got when purifying it! Also Bulldoze Phanpy!! Yesss!! I trained a Phanpy in XD and it only had Take Down as a damaging move until very late in the game...

On a side note, was Voltorb made bulkier or is there something odd? Phanpy's Shadow Rush didn't even take half of a Voltorb's HP bar, surprising considering Voltorb isn't bulky and Shadow Rush is super effective.

The new set of shadow moves is really cool, that is something that was lacking in the original, so seeing you worked on it is amazing. I will play this very very fast I guess, a hack of my favourite Pokémon game ever... And after waiting for so long I got it working!

Good to see that you figure it it out and I hope you enjoy it!

There's actually a mechanic in XD which most people don't know about known as "shadow boost". All shadow pokemon have a slight boost to all their stats until you catch them. That's why their level has a plus after it until they've been snagged. From what I saw it looks like they get a random value of up to around 15 extra points in every stat! Once you catch them they have regular stats again.

Mochorro · Jul 28, 2016

Ok, ok, after finishing that Shadow list I got to play this again, yesterday I stopped playing after beating Cipher in Pyrite, so I advanced quite a bit! I am gonna write some spoilers on Shadow Pokémon and trainers, so if you haven't played the game and don't want spoilers you'd better not read! If you don't mind I'll write about my adventure here!

Spoiler:

- I feel quite unlucky, I don't get fast Pokémon, Combusken, Metang, Grovyle... They all came with a -Spe nature... At least I have Jolteon to make up for this! In this game where opponents hit hard it's quite troublesome, I have to go to heal after almost every battle.

- I thought of training both Bagon and Phanpy, but in the end I won't. Phanpy is very very weak it just doesn't win battles. I know Donphan is amazing but it's still slow, so I decided to leave it in a Purification Chamber room... Bagon is slow, frail, and not strong enough for the things that appear here as of now. It just faints 80% of the time. Level 50 is so far, and I know Shelgon won't be very good until it evolves... As a lazy person, I preferred going for immediate power.

- Good to get my favourite Pokémon Magnemite early in the game! Sadly I am training Metang and Jolteon, so it'll have to wait for a second playthrough.

- Lovrina, I mean, Sylvia, was amazing! The # sentences were so much fun, and well, the battle with her, WOW!! Amazing nicknames and amazing shiny Kirlia! Did you add duplicate Pokémon for that or just found a way to give nicknames? It kept a smile in my face during the whole battle. The AI was a bit stupid though, Clefairy didn't stop using Shadow Star during the whole battle. It made it annoying to catch, but the battle was much easier due to that, I could focus on the other Pokémon and leave Clefairy for later. They don't like going for Shadow Soul, MirRor B. Ludicolo kept using Shadow Pulse... I don't know why.

- I got to Pyrite Town and the Duel Square was really really tough! That Speed trainer was extremely close to beating me, I had to use many items... My team was not ready for Crobat, Jumpluff and Ninjask yet... Metang saved the day here, it was in a 1 vs. 2 situation against Crobat and Jumpluff one or 2 turns but it survived.

- Ludicolo is an amazing Pokémon to get! I decided to purify it the usual way, fighting, because I added it to my team. With Scald and its Shadow moves it was very helpful throughout the ONBS building.

- I got an Adamant Trapinch in a Pokéspot! I had already decided on Phanpy and Bagon but this settled it all. It joined my team. I have Ground and Dragon in one Pokémon, and it also Levitates. A bit slow and frail for now, but decently strong and Vibrava isn't that far. I actually caught 2 Trapinch because of the trade, and a Heracross.

- I defeated Cipher at the ONBS building. There were some cool Pokémon here, many Pokémon that are in a single line and would most probably lower their performance by the end of the game (my Mawile has Intimidate), but still fairly decent Pokémon.

- That commander battle was really hard! The Sneasel didn't want to get caught! And it kept using Shadow Edge which OHKOed or 2HKOed everything in my team. I shouldn't have purified Ludicolo I guess before the battle, I was very close to losing this! In the end I Revived Jolteon and Paralyzed it, thankfully it kept going for Metang which I had to constantly heal while I threw the balls. In the end it was caught!

- On a side note, an opponent used Surf and it just hit my 2 Pokémon... I don't know if that has been kept that way on purpose or not; in actual generations, Surf hits everything in the field. Also, a note on that Shadow move that does damage according to the level, I don't remember the name now. When used by a Shadow opponent it does 5 more damage than the opponent's level! That might have to do with that shadow boost thing, it's quite interesting.

So that's it! Now I'll beat the first 10 trainers in Mt. Battle... My team as of now consists of Jolteon, Metang, Trapinch, Ludicolo and Combusken, though Combusken might get replaced, it's pretty slow even after a boost and it has low Attack due to IVs maybe. Thank you for creating this amazing game!

StarsMmd · Jul 28, 2016

Mochorro said:
- On a side note, an opponent used Surf and it just hit my 2 Pokémon... I don't know if that has been kept that way on purpose or not; in actual generations, Surf hits everything in the field. Also, a note on that Shadow move that does damage according to the level, I don't remember the name now. When used by a Shadow opponent it does 5 more damage than the opponent's level! That might have to do with that shadow boost thing, it's quite interesting.

So that's it! Now I'll beat the first 10 trainers in Mt. Battle... My team as of now consists of Jolteon, Metang, Trapinch, Ludicolo and Combusken, though Combusken might get replaced, it's pretty slow even after a boost and it has low Attack due to IVs maybe. Thank you for creating this amazing game!

Nice progress G. You can put it inside a spoiler tag so people can avoid spoilers. Also makes the post shorter which is handy.

Surf is just like that in gen 3 and I can't change it atm.

Spoiler:

Also all the shadow pokemon have 2 levels. One of them is the one shown, the other is what would be used if it wasn't a shadow pokemon and is evidently also the one used for moves like seismic toss. I set them all to 5 levels higher because that means the trainer gives more prize money (a tactic used a lot in the original game). I never noticed that myself, pretty cool.

pokemonlover493 · Jul 28, 2016

Hey StarsMmd, what is the progress on the new update for this game? I'm not going to download it until the next update is released. I am looking forward to the finished product.

StarsMmd · Jul 29, 2016

pokemonlover493 said:
Hey StarsMmd, what is the progress on the new update for this game? I'm not going to download it until the next update is released. I am looking forward to the finished product.

Well since pokemon go happened I've been thrown a little off track. The next version isn't going to be that different though so it's not really worth the wait. The game is mostly done and is pretty stable at this point.

If you really, really want to wait anyway then it'll probably be around a week.

pokemonlover493 · Jul 29, 2016

StarsMmd said:
Well since pokemon go happened I've been thrown a little off track. The next version isn't going to be that different though so it's not really worth the wait. The game is mostly done and is pretty stable at this point.

If you really, really want to wait anyway then it'll probably be around a week.

I'll just wait. I've been playing the original while I wait. I thought in the next version the shadow pokemon are going to be somewhat different than the earlier versions. That's why I have been waiting.

Erasmus · Jul 30, 2016

I really like a lot of the localization changes you've made! As much as I love the gamecube duo, their translation quality was terrible. Making Eagun Ash was particularly great, and makes a ton of sense. And the physical/special split and fairy additions are fantastic! Overall, thank you so much for your great work!

I have a couple of questions though:

1. Do you think you might have made it a bit too easy? I'm still early on, but the amount of powerful pokemon I'm finding is very high. I know part of the original game's charm was beating strong opponents with a roster of mediocre pokemon.

2. Since you made Eagun Ash, could you make Bella into Serena or another Anime character? If Eagun is ash in your new canon it makes more sense to have an established character from his world rather than a random.

Thanks again!

StarsMmd · Jul 30, 2016

Erasmus said:
I really like a lot of the localization changes you've made! As much as I love the gamecube duo, their translation quality was terrible. Making Eagun Ash was particularly great, and makes a ton of sense. And the physical/special split and fairy additions are fantastic! Overall, thank you so much for your great work!

I have a couple of questions though:

1. Do you think you might have made it a bit too easy? I'm still early on, but the amount of powerful pokemon I'm finding is very high. I know part of the original game's charm was beating strong opponents with a roster of mediocre pokemon.

2. Since you made Eagun Ash, could you make Bella into Serena or another Anime character? If Eagun is ash in your new canon it makes more sense to have an established character from his world rather than a random.

Thanks again!

I'm glad you like it, thanks for the kind words!

1. I think pokemon games are just inherently easy. Making it "hard" isn't as simple as it sounds. Interestingly, some players find XG really hard depending on their play styles. I also don't want the game to require too much grinding as it can get quite boring. There are a lot of level jumps and strong opponents. Not sure there's much else that can increase the challenge without requiring mad grinding. It's something I'm always looking into though. If you have any suggestions I'd be mighty appreciative.

2. I actually renamed Eagun to Ash simply because they both main pikachu. Apart from that there really aren't any ties and I haven't tried to carry over any of Ash's story into XG. I was mainly just trying to come up with names really quickly. A lot of people have made similar comments though!

Mochorro · Aug 1, 2016

Hi, I have kept on playing the game, beating Cipher at Phenac! This time I put it in a Spoiler...

Spoiler:

- I caught Suicune! Seeing its moveset, with it being similar to the famous Crocune set, I feel I was extremely lucky to catch it with my third Ultra Ball!

- I don't know if intended or not, very minor by the way, in Phenac, the second trainer with a Shadow, (the Staryu perhaps?) had a Hitmonchan with Blaze Kick, that seemed odd to me when Fire Punch exists! As I said extremely minor, just wanted to mention it. I guess Tyrogue gets Blaze Kick so it's not that odd.

- Also in Phenac, the trainer that has a Mightyena outside with him didn't have a Mightyena, Cipher Peon Clint.

- I caught 2 Eevees (they are tough to catch with that extremely annoying Wish!) and the game says they were a gift from my father, that's odd but the way Eevee works in this game I guess.

- I lost for the first time in the game against Blaine. I didn't carry any Shadows and Pidgeot and Gengar left my team extremely weakened. I went to Mt. Battle to beat from 11 to 20 (I like the minigyms you created there with 5 trainers of each type), and took with me Shadow Swellow and Scyther to battle Blaine and it was much easier.

- I feel Phenac City Cipher could have had a bit higher levels, Blaine actually had a Lv. 30 Pokémon, only 2 levels stronger than Snattle's best Pokémon original level, and Cipher Peons were very easy compared to earlier places like the Battle Square in Pyrite. I know you can come here right after the ONBS thing, perhaps I was a bit overleveled, it's something hard to decide I guess.

- I went to Clark's house expecting a tough battle with Zack and Robo Groudon, teaching Ludicolo Rain Dance to counter his strategy. After beating Zack, I actually thought that with the amazing things that this game includes, perhaps Robo Groudon came as a Pokémon, and WOW! There it was! It was cool you didn't give it Drought because it's a robot, and Steel-type seemed suitable as well! Rain Dance came in handy to beat the lv. 50 behemoth.

- I went to the S.S Libra and received that message from Derek about the Pre Center. I went there to see what I could do, it was risky, 4 trainers in a row with huge levels! In the end thanks to Jolteon, the MVP of the team, I got through with a lot of luck, as the last battle was epic, Jolteon survived TWICE in a row due to Focus Band! While you say the game is easy, I've already had quite a few amazing battles! I won't battle Derek for now. I'll keep going.

Well, I stopped playing there, looking forward to the last 3 dungeons, especially the last 2 that include Shadow Pokémon! Interesting what you said about Surf, I guess gen III effect is cool and it's ok you want to keep it that way.

Bigpokemonfan0 · Aug 6, 2016

Do you know about the game freeze? It randomly happens in the strategy memo from matchups. It happened to me twice, should be best to warn the public to save before using the strategy memo in PstarDA.

Could you tell the public the shiny chances for this game? I also need to know the shadow pokemon stays shiny after failing to snag it.

As for Mt. Battle, the opposing pokemon needs a moveset viewed from another website. I got too confused to tell the three Haunters in the difference, two females in area 1 zone 4.

StarsMmd · Aug 6, 2016

Mochorro said:
Well, I stopped playing there, looking forward to the last 3 dungeons, especially the last 2 that include Shadow Pokémon! Interesting what you said about Surf, I guess gen III effect is cool and it's ok you want to keep it that way.

Whoops, I missed this post somehow! Fixed some stuff you mentioned so thanks for that and glad you're enjoying the game so far. :)

Bigpokemonfan0 said:
Do you know about the game freeze? It randomly happens in the strategy memo from matchups. It happened to me twice, should be best to warn the public to save before using the strategy memo in PstarDA.

Could you tell the public the shiny chances for this game? I also need to know the shadow pokemon stays shiny after failing to snag it.

As for Mt. Battle, the opposing pokemon needs a moveset viewed from another website. I got too confused to tell the three Haunters in the difference, two females in area 1 zone 4.

I think that's just a problem with the emulator. They sometimes freeze randomly. I'm not having that issue and I haven't heard of it happening to anyone else (tbf nobody really uses the matchup menu or even knows it exists XD). I'm not sure it's even worth mentioning. Out of curiousity, does it always happen to you or is it only sometimes?

shiny chance is 1 in 200 iirc. By my calculations, this means you have a 40% chance of finding at least one shiny shadow pokemon in a playthrough. ;)

I actually don't know what happens if you don't snag it the first time but I'm pretty sure the shininess should remain.

Yeah not many ghost types gen III XD

PaperPrince · Aug 8, 2016

Well...hi everyone. I'm new here, and in fact, I created an account specifically to thank you for making this hack, Stars. I had just caught the last of Tyrion's Pokemon (leaving only Ho-oh to be caught) when the crushing realization hit me.

So, being relatively unfamiliar with Dolphin and the way things are saved, as well as XD roms in general, I mad a mistake early on that has prevented me from continuing the game after the final battle against Tyrion. At some point during my game, my Dolphin's memory card had become corrupted, leaving me unable to hard-save my game. I had never seen this be an issue in other games I've played, so I thought nothing of it.

However, XD is unique in that it *requires* a hard save once you beat the final boss in order to proceed with post game content.

I cannot access the rest of your wonderful hack, and it has truly crushed me. It was a 40-hour, almost nonstop playthrough which I enjoyed immensely, snagging every shadow Pokemon along the way and having a final fight that took over an hour to finish.

And it's come to a screeching halt because of this memory card issue.

In an attempt to 'format' the memory card to work properly, I made a save-state at the final screen asking if I want to save the game; I then reset the emulator, and started a new game to format the memory card to get rid of the corrupted data.

Little did I know, XD is one of the few GameCube games to actually *check* the previous save data for authenticity, before allowing you to overwrite your data (I can only assume this is to prevent duplicating Pokemon/save files)

I'm now left with several save states from before, during, and after the final fight, with no way to proceed. :(

If anyone has ANY suggestions on how I might fix this, PLEASE let me know. I don't think it's possible to convert the data contained within a save state to game data, as I've scoured the Internet for answers to this dilemma for the past few hours, with no success.

StarsMmd · Aug 8, 2016

PaperPrince said:
Well...hi everyone. I'm new here, and in fact, I created an account specifically to thank you for making this hack, Stars. I had just caught the last of Tyrion's Pokemon (leaving only Ho-oh to be caught) when the crushing realization hit me.

So, being relatively unfamiliar with Dolphin and the way things are saved, as well as XD roms in general, I mad a mistake early on that has prevented me from continuing the game after the final battle against Tyrion. At some point during my game, my Dolphin's memory card had become corrupted, leaving me unable to hard-save my game. I had never seen this be an issue in other games I've played, so I thought nothing of it.

However, XD is unique in that it *requires* a hard save once you beat the final boss in order to proceed with post game content.

I cannot access the rest of your wonderful hack, and it has truly crushed me. It was a 40-hour, almost nonstop playthrough which I enjoyed immensely, snagging every shadow Pokemon along the way and having a final fight that took over an hour to finish.

And it's come to a screeching halt because of this memory card issue.

In an attempt to 'format' the memory card to work properly, I made a save-state at the final screen asking if I want to save the game; I then reset the emulator, and started a new game to format the memory card to get rid of the corrupted data.

Little did I know, XD is one of the few GameCube games to actually *check* the previous save data for authenticity, before allowing you to overwrite your data (I can only assume this is to prevent duplicating Pokemon/save files)

I'm now left with several save states from before, during, and after the final fight, with no way to proceed. :(

If anyone has ANY suggestions on how I might fix this, PLEASE let me know. I don't think it's possible to convert the data contained within a save state to game data, as I've scoured the Internet for answers to this dilemma for the past few hours, with no success.

Welcome! Thank you for your kinds words ??????

I've actually heard quite a few people have had this problem. Apparently the cuase is saving on a different version of the game. For example, starting a save file on an older version and then saving after updating to a new version or saving in vanilla XD with an XG save file and vice versa.

I believe the solution is to delete all pokemon xd save data from the emulators memory card and then load up your save state and then do an in-game save and I think that should allow you to save normally again. I'll double check.

Edit: Just double checked on the other forums where the problem was discussed and apparently after deleting the old save data, you need to start a new game and then save in-game to create a new save file. After that you can load the save state and then save the game normally. Hope this helps ????????????

PaperPrince · Aug 8, 2016

StarsMmd said:
Welcome! Thank you for your kinds words ��

I've actually heard quite a few people have had this problem. Apparently the cuase is saving on a different version of the game. For example, starting a save file on an older version and then saving after updating to a new version or saving in vanilla XD with an XG save file and vice versa.

I believe the solution is to delete all pokemon xd save data from the emulators memory card and then load up your save state and then do an in-game save and I think that should allow you to save normally again. I'll double check.

Edit: Just double checked on the other forums where the problem was discussed and apparently after deleting the old save data, you need to start a new game and then save in-game to create a new save file. After that you can load the save state and then save the game normally. Hope this helps ��

Unless I'm doing something wrong, that doesn't work with Pokemon XD roms. It gives me the following error when trying to save:
"The Memory Card in Slot A is not the original Memory Card used to save the game. Please insert the original Memory card!"

StarsMmd · Aug 8, 2016

PaperPrince said:
Unless I'm doing something wrong, that doesn't work with Pokemon XD roms. It gives me the following error when trying to save:
"The Memory Card in Slot A is not the original Memory Card used to save the game. Please insert the original Memory card!"

That's weird. Which steps did you follow exactly?

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