The "Unova=Kanto" Equation

Not Sure if it is discussed before, anyway....

Unova tends to be distinguished from any other Sagas with a segregated region, totally new Pokemon or AKA "A Fresh Start"

I am not the kind of person who come to accurate conclusions but....doesn't it seem that Unova seems much more like a Modern Kanto? Its as if all previous progress made was dumped and a totally new Pokemon show began running.
I can't recall much of similarities but from what I remember, some obvious similarities might include the PACE. Kanto was a one-season series, idk if Unova plans on heading it multiple Seasons like previous series did, but the point is that the speed seems just as fast.

The New Pokemons as well prove the concept of Kanto. What I mean is that they started from square 1. And some people pointed out that there have been some similarities between some Pokemon Designs.

We can also notice the Pokemons caught by Ash during Unova. First he caught the 3 starters (=Kanto) and next he continue his hunt until he reached more than 7 Pokemons just as Kanto (CORRECT ME IF WRONG).

Of course, Ash turning into a total noob fits as well :P

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So, was it really intended for Unova to look more like Kanto? Is it what the developers planned on? Starting the same way they did before and running in the same speed. Could it really be that all of these are just Coincidences? And Do you think the "Fresh Start" would rub all the progress made by the previous sagas?

No just no, Unova is a region unique to itself. I don't get why people want to draw comparisons to other places, but if you want to get down to it I am sure you could draw subtle comparisons to any region from aspects of what we have seen thus far.

Hoenn was also a "Fresh Start" as Ash only took Pikachu, and it was at the time not close to Kanto and Johto as he had to take a boat to get there. Hoenn pace was also not that slow, it may have just seemed that way cause we were getting to gyms nearly as quick with the advent of Contests.

Ash caught three starters in Johto as well.

Ash wasn't reset at the beginning of Sinnoh? Then progressively retained his battle knowledge?

Kenshin5 said:

No just no, Unova is a region unique to itself. I don't get why people want to draw comparisons to other places, but if you want to get down to it I am sure you could draw subtle comparisons to any region from aspects of what we have seen thus far.

Hoenn was also a "Fresh Start" as Ash only took Pikachu, and it was at the time not close to Kanto and Johto as he had to take a boat to get there. Hoenn pace was also not that slow, it may have just seemed that way cause we were getting to gyms nearly as quick with the advent of Contests.

Ash caught three starters in Johto as well.

Ash wasn't reset at the beginning of Sinnoh? Then progressively retained his battle knowledge?

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~ Could be....
However the "Fresh Start" in Unova wasn't like any other if you know what I mean.

About the pace, I might have rushed myself, we are still in the beginning, yes the pace was fast but I can't be certain of the upcoming episodes. So

Kanto and Johto were like twins, so I didn't really dismembered it from Kanto to contradict myself. Not really sure if it is right :/

Ash was reset in every journey but this one was intense, The Sinnoh Ash seemed to have experience of what he learned before and the same applies to Hoenn. The loss of experience in Hoenn and Sinnoh wasn't that Massive as now, I do understand though it is for the adaption of the new viewers.

Charicific said:

~ Could be....
However the "Fresh Start" in Unova wasn't like any other if you know what I mean.

About the pace, I might have rushed myself, we are still in the beginning, yes the pace was fast but I can't be certain of the upcoming episodes. So

Kanto and Johto were like twins, so I didn't really dismembered it from Kanto to contradict myself. Not really sure if it is right :/

Ash was reset in every journey but this one was intense, The Sinnoh Ash seemed to have experience of what he learned before and the same applies to Hoenn. The loss of experience in Hoenn and Sinnoh wasn't that Massive as now, I do understand though it is for the adaption of the new viewers.

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Yes cause in previous Sagas we would actually see an abundance of former generations of pokemon especially in Sinnoh. So in that regard as well as in the game it is fresh. Like Don George said Umbreon are never seen around here so he was surprised when he thought he saw one.

At this point I think the pace mimics some where between Kanto and Unova. So if they continue at this rate I feel they will have room for Filler Arcs like Orange Islands and Battle Frontier.

I guess Kanto and Johto are twins in some respects. Ash gets an evolved regional bird, three starters, a bug type(but those captures are about as far as it goes in the capture parallel), it seems the first season of Johto was filtering out the old and bring in the new so at that point I could see the twin aspect. But for the majority of Johto it seems slow, added a bunch of fillers, side stories or whatever you want to call it which doesn't seem like it's Kanto predecessor.

Toujours said:

To be fair, Charicific was saying that all three of these combined made for a fresh start. You're saying he caught 3 starters in Johto, only brought Pikachu to Hoenn, and reset his knowledge in Sinnoh. Char's saying that all three of these happening in the same season means more than them happening in 3 separate seasons.

I know the game was the equivalent of a reset back to Kanto, so I wouldn't be surprised if the anime was the same way.

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Having three starters could have been a fan service move who really knows but the writers. I get that all of these happening in one Saga is quite coincidental. But it seems Hoenn can be seen as quite a reset in it's own right since at the time there was no backwards compatibility with the Gameboy Games GSC and RBY and going to the anime he only brought his signature pokemon as he did here, along with him donned new apparel as well. I definitely see where Charicific is coming from but too me all the Sagas outside of Johto seem like a fresh start to me.

I'm sure it's unique 'cause Unova is based on NYC, and Kanto is based on the Kanto region in Japan, but I don't get what's the equation.

I agree that the Black and White series is similar to Kanto, probably a result of the actual games' motto being 'Start from a new beginning'. This is most likely the anime's reflection of that.