2vs.2 move help

[stewie&rupert]

im very into the 2vs.2 battles and love to use the team pkmns in them. by team i mean plusle and minun and a couple others. i just need help with the next few pkmn.

this team is complete and find it very strong:
plusle-plus
modest[sp.atk +/spd. -]
item:???
thunder
charge
quick atk
fake tears

minun-minus
timid[sp.+/atk-]
item:???
thunder
rain dance
thunder wave
helping hand
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lunatone
modest[sp.atk+/atk-]
psychic
ice beam
???
???

solrock
modest[sp.atk+/atk-]
flamethrower
shadow ball
solarbeam
rockslide
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lidocolo
???
rain dance
dive
mega drain/giga?
leech seed

gorbyss
surf
psychic
batton pass
safeguard

and if i batton pass itll be:
lanturn
thunder
surf
blizzard
thunder wave

i just need some 2on2 help with those 3 sets.i might add more.early thanks.

 

[Frostweaver]

Plusle/Minun = earthquake, and ggkthxnorm

they just can't take any hits at all... with surf being a hit-all move, you're suiciding in a way too to call rain dance saying to those gorebyss "please surf me" (gorebyss's speed will go crazy after you rain dance first turn, so don't expect you can thunder and kill it off right after)


Solrock and Lunatone maybe counterparts, but they have no relationship with each other. Perhaps have them on a sunny day team to help reduce surf's damage. Solrock should actually boost attack power instead of supressing attack power. Lunatone can always have chesto rest, and... hidden power something fire o.o?


Ludicolo should have protect instead of dive, and surf instead of the drains. Baton pass is useless in 2vs2 due to the extremely fast paced battles, plus safeguard is like reflect/lightscreen where it doesn't need baton pass for the effect to stay on.

*is no good at 2vs2*

 

[Simon]

I could see the Thunderdance working if Minum used that ThunderWave of it's successfully.

Why give Plusle Modest nature? Why not (+Atk/-Speed) instead? Quick Attack would benefit more from it and even more so if Minum uses Helping Hand.

And you don't have to worry about Thunder's power much since Plusle/Minum's Sp.Atk is multiplied by 1.5 (it's what it says in the Pokemon Calculator so I'm not sure) cause of their 2 abilities working with each other and it'll be dead accurate with the rain.

With the bonus in Sp. Atk from the abilities, Charge seems quite useless to me now. As does Fake Tears (well..maybe not too useless). Give it a few more Physical attacks. I don't know what attacks + and - can learn so I can't say anything for that.

*same as frostweaver, not good in 2v2, let alone making movesets*

 

[Frostweaver]

Plusle and Minun can learn nothing (that's good for 2vs2... normally they can wish which isn't too bad for lvl balance teams)...

Well you start off with a natural growth... but that really doesn't give them enough help the need to be decent. They're not even that fast as as aero will swoop in and a friendly eq for all.

 

[Mew9]

I have an Oddish that knows Earthquake, so tat will be ur Pulsle/Minun doom. In fact, i fought a 2-on-2 team of a Pusle and Minun, and didn't even have Torchic attack. It was ugly. I would substitute ne1 who is strong against ground or rock, since Pusle and Minum r EXTREMELY seceptable 2 those types.

 

[Frostweaver]

I have an Oddish that knows Earthquake, so tat will be ur Pulsle/Minun doom. In fact, i fought a 2-on-2 team of a Pusle and Minun, and didn't even have Torchic attack. It was ugly. I would substitute ne1 who is strong against ground or rock, since Pusle and Minum r EXTREMELY seceptable 2 those types.

Oddish can learn earthquake? Ahem...
Even if Oddish does learn it, Plusle and Minun will actually survive if you're playing against real human players. Oddish is too weak in stats (if it's Vileplume, then probably in red... the low attack stats and lack of STAB will help them survive)