my new NB team

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    I have made some improvements to a NB team I posted before. Here is what I have.

    Blaziken@Salac
    Lonely nature
    Endure
    Reversal
    FT
    Rock Slide
    EVs: 252 ATK, 170 SA, rest in SPD

    Zard@Peyata
    Timid nature
    Heat Wave
    D Claw
    Endure
    HP Grass
    EVs:252 SA, 252 SPD, 6 HP

    Flare@Salac
    Naughty nature
    Shadow Ball
    HP Fight
    FT
    Endure
    EVs: 252 ATK, 150 SA, rest in SPD

    Zapdos@Sharp Beak(I don't know what else except hax to put there)
    Mild nature
    Drill Peck
    HP Grass
    Reflect
    T/Bolt
    EVs: 252 SPD/252 SA/6 ATK

    Espeon@Shell Bell
    Modest nature
    Psychic
    HP Fire
    Morning Sun
    Reflect
    EVs: 220 SPD, 220 SA, 64 DEF

    Dusclops@King's Rock(Again same as Zapdos)
    (SD+/SPD-) nature
    Shadow Ball
    I/Beam
    C Ray
    WoW
    252 SD/252 DEF/6 HP

    Let me guess..Phy Zard over Spec, Overheat on all Fire, no Sharp Beak/King's Rock, CM Espy, and no HP Fight on Flare. Oh yeah, adamant zard.

    I won't change Zard. If you have better items for Zapdos/Dusclops i may use them. I have a reason for e4 Fire Espy. And overheat sucks. Fire Blast I may use on Flare/Blaze.
     
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    elitefour_protector said:
    I have made some improvements to a NB team I posted before. Here is what I have.

    Blaziken@Salac
    Lonely nature
    Endure
    Reversal
    FT
    Rock Slide
    EVs: 252 ATK, 170 SA, rest in SPD

    Zard@lefties
    Modest nature
    FT
    D Claw
    Bite
    HP Grass
    EVs:252 SA, 252 SPD, 6 HP

    I'm not too good with the Satking chari. lefties are better, always

    Flare@Salac
    Naughty nature
    Shadow Ball
    HP Fight
    FT
    Endure
    EVs: 252 ATK, 150 SA, rest in SPD

    What poke is this??

    Zapdos@lefties
    Mild nature
    Drill Peck
    HP ice
    Reflect
    T/Bolt
    EVs: 252 SPD/252 SA/6 ATK

    I personally prefer hp ice.

    Espeon@petaya berry/lefties
    Modest nature
    Psychic
    something else goes here, dunno what
    Morning Sun
    C mind
    EVs: 220 SPD, 220 SA, 64 DEF

    Fix the evs,I prefer the special sweeper

    Dusclops@Lefties
    (SD+/SPD-) nature
    seismic toss
    Pain split
    C Ray
    WoW
    252 SD/252 DEF/6 HP

    Let me guess..Phy Zard over Spec, Overheat on all Fire, no Sharp Beak/King's Rock, CM Espy, and no HP Fight on Flare. Oh yeah, adamant zard.

    I won't change Zard. If you have better items for Zapdos/Dusclops i may use them. I have a reason for e4 Fire Espy. And overheat sucks. Fire Blast I may use on Flare/Blaze.
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    Ermm its kind of weird but meh, changes in bold.
     
    Nintendo is frikin lame. Char needs more special attacks. At least a thunderpunch ffs
     
    erm, i wouldn't mind if charizard gets even more sp.att's but right now it's pretty good as it is. its sp.att is high enough so that it can be an effective special sweepert

    Zard@salac [modest]
    252sp.att 252speed, 6hp
    -flamethrower/fireblast/overheat
    -hp grass/hp ice
    -dragon claw
    -substitute/endure/blast burn

    blast burn @ blaze kills almost everything and makes for a nice goodbye present. i tend to like endure or sub better though. both may activate berry and "resurrect" what seems to be a finished charizard. this also fully utilitzes blaze as the now sped up charizard fan just sweep away with flamethrower@blaze. this charizard is a good finisher and tends to finish off entire teams. its' even better with duggy support, you know, to get rid of blissey.

    btw, bite on zard isn't smart. earthquake would make sense if you want a physical but with all EV's going to sp.att it's not gonna do much.
     
    Blast Burn should never be used, even if like explosion. the opponent doesn't get a free turn with explosion. that free turn could be used for A Dragon Dance, Swords Dance, A free CM, and a bunch of other **** that could **** you up because Blaze Boosted Flamethrowers are powerful enough.
     
    Ham said:
    Blast Burn should never be used, even if like explosion. the opponent doesn't get a free turn with explosion. that free turn could be used for A Dragon Dance, Swords Dance, A free CM, and a bunch of other **** that could **** you up because Blaze Boosted Flamethrowers are powerful enough.
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    blast burn is an alternative. like i said, it's only used as a goodbye present when charizard is good as gone. every alternative has its downside and you just pointed out the flaws with blast burn(opponents bringing in a stat booster on the next turn), doesn't mean it's not an option because it does have its uses in certain situations. like when your charizard is good as gone facing off a blissey who's about to seismic toss you for the kill, blast burn is a very good goodbye present. in that situations blast burn@blaze is gonna do a lot more than flamethrower.

    personally i do like endure and sub better, as i already stated. but blast burn's pretty cool.
     
    Flare means Flareon. I am making a list of Protector-isms and I will add Flare to it. C-dog, you are one of the few Spec Zard users, so thanks for the support. The reason for the evs in Espy's DEF are for Reflect. Fire e4 Espy(another Protector-ism) kills Steelix, Sneasel, and other Grass types with ease. Also, being able to kill Sheddy helps. Reducing damage by half from any physical sweeper will help make Espy stronger. Also, this team is 3-3-0 on Netbattle, if that matters. And one of the losses was to a team with 5 ubers and a Metagross.
     
    heh, you really are a beast for offense. As soon as my prohibition of using NB is over, I'll have to take you on and show you how 1337 Umbreon can make a team
     
    Does anyone remember Groudon80? The member who got banned for incessantly flaming me? This team pwned him 4-0 on Netbattle. My first move was to OHKO something with Zard's Heat Wave.
     
    rofl. I think i've battled him before. He's decent at best. Methinks Ham knows him
     
    From my experiences with this team, I find Heat Wave better than flamethrower for Zard. The extra power has given me OHKOs that Flamethrower doesn't, while the acc loss doesn't seem to matter.
     
    Whats the point in using heat wave when you can use fire blast which only has 5 less accuracy points than heat wave and does 120 damage?
     
    I like Sub>Endure on Blaziken (but whatever floats your boat), I also like this set better:

    Blaziken@Salac Berry
    EVs:252 Attak, 252 Speed, 6 HP
    Nature:Naughty/Lonely
    Sub
    Reversal
    Rock Slide
    Earthquake/Overheat

    This is the Blaziken cool people use, lol!    :P
     
    Leftovers are illegal in most turnaments. Where do you net battle by the way? Ur using too much fire types in your team try mixing it up. Thunderwave is the most broken move for one reason. IT IS THE BEST! Dont listen to the fool thats tellin you to get rid of it.
     
    elitefour_protector said:
    Does anyone remember Groudon80? The member who got banned for incessantly flaming me? This team pwned him 4-0 on Netbattle. My first move was to OHKO something with Zard's Heat Wave.
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    there are posers for everyone everywhere.
     
    elitefour_protector said:
    Does anyone remember Groudon80? The member who got banned for incessantly flaming me? This team pwned him 4-0 on Netbattle. My first move was to OHKO something with Zard's Heat Wave.
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    STFU. G80 is like 100 times better than you and like what ham said, imposters are around everywhere. OMg!!11 I beAt a cHoAs FaKer!111
     
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