A good tech to Zaborg and E-Force

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    Peten anyone?
    I read the finals betwenn Bobby Chambers and John Jensen from SJC Boston and laughed to myself what would of happened if the sent Appretice Magician in game 3 (set by Jensen) that got Zaborged (by Chambers FTW) in the end would have been Peten...

    and agaisnt Cyber Steim... u all know the move

    Trunade/Storm
    Summon E- Force
    Use effect
    Get Stein
    pay 5 grand
    Get Cyber End
    Megamorph
    Game?

    Imagine if that mosnter they E-Forced was a Peten?

    so u have to take a 8000 trampler to ur 1200 def guy... atleast ur still alive!

    Could Peten be a good side deck against Stein and a good tech in general?
     
    Two Words.

    Sand Moth.

    Also I will speak for Frostweaver.

    Forced Back.
     
    Zaik speaks my mind ^^



    Of course, if they use Giant Trunade or Heavy Storm first, then you can't do much about such a lucky hand... Peten works in that scenario but is too situational, and you always worry about missing the timing. I'm not even sure if the timing window is correct if the situation is like this...

    A uses Last Will
    A summons exiled force
    A uses priority for exiled force's effect, destroy B's facedown which is Peten

    Now Last Will will try to bring out Stein because Exiled Force is down, so doesn't Peten miss the timing then?

    Really, you cannot do anything but solemn judgment or magic jammer if the stein player has last will, exiled force and giant trunade/heavy storm (and potentially megamorph/limiter removal) all in the hand at the right moment while you only have that one monster on your side of the field. You're just as doomed as facing an opponent with overload fusion, future fusion, dimension fusion and giant trunade ready to bring out Game Overdragon with Spell Canceller, Jinzo, Cyber Phoenix and Drillroid altogether.

    Sand Moth defeats Exiled Force but not Zaborg unless Rush Recklessly is also ready. If Zaborg's effect can't run over Sand Moth, then its brute 2400 will anyway.

    Forced Back is not situational like Sand Moth. It's always usable, but just that sometimes it's more advantageous than others.

    -Forced Back is a fair trade in card advantage, and a -1 for enemy in field advantage if it's just any tribute summon, and not only restricted to against Zaborg

    -Forced Back can mess up Last Will. They really don't get to search if their Exiled Force never hit the field to begin with, eh? Plus, this slows down the exiled-last will-stein chain by completely destroying it. (Card advantage wise, fair trade, and a -1 to the opponent's field, protecting yours at the same time)

    -Forced Back is highest spell speed possible ^^

    -Forced Back gives momentum when you're on the advantage. It forces the opponent to only set monsters, because otherwise it is bounced to the hand and the opponent's field remains open (potentially, a mind game starts that will force your opponent to overcomit the back field in an effort to make up the empty field due to Forced Back)

    -Forced Back at worse is a 1 turn stall by stopping a summon, giving you one more turn to draw a game-turning card


    If you cannot tell that I insist on/love Forced Back to at least appear in the sidedeck, and better if at least x2 or even maxed in the main deck, you are obviously very, very stupid...

    Forced Back's usefulness is directly porportional to the metagame's reliance on any monarchs, thesty, mobius or zaborg. Everyone tries to shift the deck to handle one of them at a time, and forced back gets them all.
     
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