A UU team!

.amlex.

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    Alright Based on my other team I made some adjustments.

    Grumpig @ Leftovers
    Timid ...252 HP/252 speed/ 6 Sp.Att
    Substitute
    Calm Mind
    Psychic
    Shadow Ball
    A CM grumpig has worked great for me in the past, counters ghost, Pychics with S.ball. Psychic for STAB. Substitue and Calm mind are there to boost stats. It is weak to CBPrimeapes.... stupid Uturn, anyways...

    Blastoise @ Leftovers
    Bold... 252 HP/ 148def/ 148sp.def
    Surf
    Rapid Spin
    Ice Beam
    Rest

    My team's spinner, a basic utility moveset that was given to me earlier.

    Meganium @ Leftovers
    Bold... 204 HP/144 sp. atk/148 def/12 speed
    Aromatherapy
    Leech Seed
    Energy Ball
    Light Screen

    A common Meganium setup, a cleric sort, and annoyer.

    Aggron @ Leftovers
    Adamant 168HP/252 Atk/88 Speed
    Substitute
    Thunder Wave
    Focus Punch
    Stone Edge

    A SubPuncher, Has worked really well for me in the past. Though, should I put in Earthquake instead of Twave?

    Muk @ Black Sludge or Leftovers
    Jolly... 170 Atk/ 170 HP/ 170 Sp.def
    Shadow Sneak
    Poison Point
    Curse
    Brick Break

    A set that I thought up myself, the Evs, cant remember where I found them.. but I like it's potential.

    Camerupt @ Leftovers
    Calm... 252.Hp / 128.Sp.D / 128.Def
    Lava plume
    Yawn
    Stealth rock
    Earthpower

    One of my Favorite UU pokemon. Two Stab Attacks, and also good for setting up an entry hazard. Yawn is there to get rid of those who could give me some trouble.

    NOt sure what to lead with. Please check the Ev's please to see if the work good. Any Help is appreciated! And on another note, I was going to put in Lopuny (Bp, Dizzy Punch, Agility, Substitute) that way i could get some speed to my slower ones. Is it a good Idea. if it is who should I switch out?
     
    CB primeape is awesome.

    anywho replace light screen on meganium for either counter or Synthesis.

    you DO understand that 252/148/148 is not possible, right? the cap for evs is 510, and only 508 of them mean anything. so it would be 252/148/108 instead.

    i'd put ice punch on aggron over twave. earthquake is not that vital when you have focus punch.

    umm your Muk has a move called Poison Point? o.O i'm sure you mean gunk shot. anywho, works well, but i'd replace "poison point" for thunderpunch. really comes in handy. STAB is always a pleasure, but gunk shot has such bad accuracy =/ also, jolly is a HORRIBLE nature for muk. learn your natures. give it impish/careful.

    your camerupt is the most ridiculous set i've seen. sure give it max hp, but it REALLY needs power in its hits. it's an awesome trick room sweeper, and that's the only way you should use it. either you get rid of it, or you give grumpig trick room. i suggest you get rid of it. camerupt is MY favorite poke, so when i tell you to get rid of it, i do it with the most peaceful intentions. specifically, your team has a X3 ground weak. mismagius has a good ground/fighting resist that your team needs, so i suggest opting with mismagius. it would really do a better job here than camerupt.
     
    Samson said:
    CB primeape is awesome.

    anywho replace light screen on meganium for either counter or Synthesis.

    you DO understand that 252/148/148 is not possible, right? the cap for evs is 510, and only 508 of them mean anything. so it would be 252/148/108 instead.

    i'd put ice punch on aggron over twave. earthquake is not that vital when you have focus punch.

    umm your Muk has a move called Poison Point? o.O i'm sure you mean gunk shot. anywho, works well, but i'd replace "poison point" for thunderpunch. really comes in handy. STAB is always a pleasure, but gunk shot has such bad accuracy =/ also, jolly is a HORRIBLE nature for muk. learn your natures. give it impish/careful.

    your camerupt is the most ridiculous set i've seen. sure give it max hp, but it REALLY needs power in its hits. it's an awesome trick room sweeper, and that's the only way you should use it. either you get rid of it, or you give grumpig trick room. i suggest you get rid of it. camerupt is MY favorite poke, so when i tell you to get rid of it, i do it with the most peaceful intentions. specifically, your team has a X3 ground weak. mismagius has a good ground/fighting resist that your team needs, so i suggest opting with mismagius. it would really do a better job here than camerupt.
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    UMM SINCE WHEN WAS MIS uu? *SORRY FOR CAPS KEYBOARD IS CRAZY....)
     
    i though BL was basically OU but with less popularity , UU is not strong enough to be in OU , this is why BBL is considered fake tier right???
     
    Seriously, BL in UU?! That's like playing with Ubers in OU, lol.
    BL is the banlist for UU, because everything in BL is too strong for the lower teir metagame.

    But since you're playing this "nonexistant" BL/UU nonsense, then I'll go ahead and say CM Missy rips this team to shreds.
     
    lol BL is nonsense. they've wiped out the complete lower UU tier to where there's no possibility of creativity. the margin between BL and UU is too small to change the metagame.

    BL is just a way of saying DP made a whole lot of pokemon a whole lot better, but that doesn't change the fact that they are just as UU as any other options.
     
    BL is a "faux" teir, much like the Uber teir. It doesn't have a real metagame, but people can still play them. And just like Ubers to OU, BL is the "banlist" for pokemon that outclass and is too good for the UU metagame and stuff in BL has a counterpart that outclasses it in OU or is too weak in comparison to the OU metagame. The teir list goes like this: Ubers>OU/BL>UU. Trust me, I've written an official teir list before so I know what I'm talking about.
     
    I'm with flamehaze on this one. Seriously, it's like putting Tauros in UU play. It's BL...the entire point of BL is to ban things from UU play. If the BL tier can't even do that, it might as well not exist. It's kind of a stupid tier anyways, they might as well put all the BL pokemon in OU...

    And...well...I'd really like to see people try to stop Rhydon in UU play, because I really doubt anything could switch into CB Stone Edges and EQs. I have a whole list of these examples...(some people consider Raikou BL, imagine what THAT would do to UU play :0)
     
    i understand that, but the margin for UU/BL is too small on either side of the spectrum. while raikou and rhydon are quite powerful with their standard sets, their downsides are what prevent them from being OU, that being typing for rhydon and movepool for raikou. then you have pokemon like spiritomb who are in BL who are left out of the UU tier because of its typing, and in all reality, its movepool isn't all that great. so when it comes down to it, there's almost NO excitement in the UU tier because the BL is prohibitive of creativity... and for what? just to prevent UU pokemon from becoming OU? certainly, the same fallbacks would occur in UU if pokemon like Mismagius and Rhydon were allowed in that tier, but that's not any different from the continual usage of pokemon like Skarmory, Blissey and Garchomp in the OU tier.

    so why don't they just make a TSFOU tier? too strong for overused? certainly, blissey and tyranitar would have their fittings in that tier. you can delve on their weaknesses, but that doesn't change the fact that they are completely broken even in their respective OU tier.
     
    Muk @ Black Sludge or Leftovers :O
    Jolly :O... 170 Atk/ 170 HP/ 170 Sp.def
    Shadow Sneak
    Poison Point :O
    Curse
    Brick Break
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    Black Sludge, always. In case of TrickSpecs and other pokemon like that, Black Sludge will give you the most advantages.
    Poison Point isn't a move :O
    Jolly ... ? wtf ... ? If Muks ran Jolly nature with curse, I will eat my foot. :O Try a +Attack or +Defense Nature.

    And use another item BESIDES Leftovers. :O
     
    now flamehaze, when you say something like that, i hope you plan on backing that up. black sludge recovers the same amount of hp for poison types as leftovers does in general but has the added effect of doing negative damage to trick users. they are very rare, but it definitely gives muk an edge over grumpig and rotom.

    and besides, with sticky hold, that's not going to be an issue for muk and it will be recovering the same amount of hp either way. in that instance, the changing of abilities or cancellation of one (gastro acid) will allow those who take muk's item to be induced with pain for black sludge, making it the better item.

    is there something i'm missing?
     
    Actually, a Trick or Switcheroo user would love to take the residual damage to pass your Black Sludge off on to one of your other pokemon in exchange for its Leftovers. I use a Switcheroo Lopunny on occasion and believe me, I would love to see some Black Sludge come my way. However, Muk does indeed have Sticky Hold. You would only want Black Sludge over Leftovers in the case that you were battling someone who wanted to play with the Item Clause or you happened to have one lying around.
     
    celestial_okami said:
    Actually, a Trick or Switcheroo user would love to take the residual damage to pass your Black Sludge off on to one of your other pokemon in exchange for its Leftovers. I use a Switcheroo Lopunny on occasion and believe me, I would love to see some Black Sludge come my way. However, Muk does indeed have Sticky Hold. You would only want Black Sludge over Leftovers in the case that you were battling someone who wanted to play with the Item Clause or you happened to have one lying around.
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    ^this

    Even though Muk indeed does have Sticky Hold, Leftovers is generally a better choice on all pokemon. So lets not say 'ohhhh Black Sludge/Leftovers on Muk doesn't matter because it has Sticky Hold'. Leftovers is always the better option on everything, so not to confuse the topic creator.
     
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