best tangela or mr. mime moveset

[kirby00]

i like em both b/c they cant eveolve, and are so wacky! even for basic pokemon they pack apowerful punch! and they either have gr8 def or can creat them.
for tangela i say: toxic, leech seed, swagger, (even tho it raises opp attack, it still has super high def, strong enough to take psycial attacks, and its not weak to any pysical attacks either *type wise* except for bug and poison) and the last move being giga drain to heal jsut incase. it also holds leftovers!
for mr. mime i suggest substitute, relfect, light screen, psychic. altho it takes awhile to set up, it makes mr.mime very strong. it lasts for a long time, in a 2vs2 battle or even when mr. mime faints, both light screen, and reflect stay intact, and behind substitute, the substitute will last long from the supp. moves, and that gives mr. mime plenty of time to heal w/ leftovers, and hit w/ psychic. im sure many would disagree as break break is common, and maybe a waste of slots, but it does come in handy. of course this is a suggestions page, so im not perfect in my guessing

 

[kirby00]

i decided that swagger is not very good for tangela,even w/ high defense. maybe ingrain to furhter heal along w/ leftovers, and leech seed. i suggest toxic, ingrain, leech seed, bind (just to keep it there while toxic hurt it along w/ leech seed)
sorry for doulbe posting but i didnt want to create this again and get yelled at by ppl, when i could just save this anyways
also w/ ingrain you could prevent p-hazers that have roar/whirlwind. and tangela learns alot of stat increasing moves. maybe give it ingrain, double team/growth, sunny day, solar beam

 

[Toothache]

First off, don't double post, there's an edit button, so use it.

Tangela@Leftovers/Petaya Berry
EV: Speed up to 196, rest in Sp Att and Def
Nature: + Speed, - Att
Sunny Day
Solarbeam
Sleep Powder
Leech Seed

It's not like Tangela can do much better, anyway.

Mr Mime@Choice Band
EV: 252 Sp Att, 252 Speed, 6 Sp Def
Nature: + Sp Att, - Att
Trick
Calm Mind
Baton Pass
Psychic

 

[kirby00]

dont correct me i alrdy stated why i d. posted. even tho u r a mod i dont need 2 hear it since i hardly d. post anyway. w/e i know u have some grudge against me so u try and find any excuse to get my in trouble.
for the moveset for mr mime. i suggest trick, calm mind, substitute, baton pass of course i would sue chocie band
or hynosis, dream eater, barrier/lightscreen, relfect.
bright powder

 

[Mana Lugia]

Actually, you didn't state any reason to be double posting that editting the first post would not have accomplished. And also, your english is atrocious, and it's not that we have a grudge, but rather that you're simply... unbearable. You argue about the strangest things that defy all logic, you can't type english if your life depended on it, and you always think you have some kind of excuse when you have absolutely no reason to be doing what you're doing.

So stop it. Pick up your act or get out of the strats forum.

on a related sidenote, I doubt Mime can survive the BP process.

 

[Frostweaver]

not to mention, he forgot that grass is also weak to flying, and isn't it basic by now that we don't use only one offensive attack (only psychic... let's ignore all the punches and thunderbolt?) unless your name is Tangela.

Tangela- [def or sp.atk + / atk -] @ leftovers
EV: hp max, def
-leech seed
-toxic/reflect/sleep powder
-growth
-HP special/grass

Mr. Mime- [speed or sp.def + / atk -] @ leftovers
EV: (if sponging: sp.def, hp, speed max)/(normal: speed max, sp.atk+sp.def)
-thunderbolt
-psychic
-calm mind/barrier
-substitute

It's so anti-calmcune, anti-calmbro if you got calm mind... and it's one successful baton pass in the bag most of the time too. Have to love pseudohaze immunity.

 

[kirby00]

Actually, you didn't state any reason to be double posting that editting the first post would not have accomplished. And also, your english is atrocious, and it's not that we have a grudge, but rather that you're simply... unbearable. You argue about the strangest things that defy all logic, you can't type english if your life depended on it, and you always think you have some kind of excuse when you have absolutely no reason to be doing what you're doing.

So stop it. Pick up your act or get out of the strats forum.

on a related sidenote, I doubt Mime can survive the BP process.

you didnt cap. the O above, double t in editing (only use 1 t) "so stop it" is not a full setence. *learn from your own mistakes b4 u teach me anything, then i can learn from some1 who can actually teach me correctly. i hope your little brother isnt influenced by you...
mana lugia dont bother posting i dont like u comment so dont say them or change them. if u havent noticed i dont remember any1 but u complaining recently about my english, so maybe u need to get over it. u need to stop spamming and leave me alone. dont call me unbearable when all u do is complain about me. get over yourself and then ill listen.
tangela, leech seed, toxic, giga drain, hp fire

 

[Toothache]

kirby00, I don't give two hoots who you think you are, no excuses for double posting. And every time you post, it seems that you kick off yet another argument, with your inflexibility and inability to learn from your mistakes. People have tried several times to show you why your movesets are bad, not because we're picking on you, but in an attempt to enlighten you. The difference between in-game and competitive battling is great, and it's something that you haven't learned yet (from reading your recent posts and movesets).

on a related sidenote, I doubt Mime can survive the BP process.

With 120 base Sp Defence? Are you kidding? Mime is not much different from Grumpig stat-wise

 

[Mana Lugia]

___ used Earthquake!

Case in point.

And on the related point, Mime with 120 base spD is really like having Shuckle trying to BP stuff, it hasn't really the HP to aid it in such =/ Well, maybe I'm just a bit rusty.

On a very unrelated note:
Kirby, you nitpick my 3 errors, and I see about 50 in your posts, so stfu and go away. Seriously. You don't even TRY to type in proper english, do you? I do, so please stfu and never come back to strats.

 

[HellishHades]

Kirby, you nitpick my 3 errors, and I see about 50 in your posts, so stfu and go away. Seriously. You don't even TRY to type in proper english, do you? I do, so please stfu and never come back to strats.

That's French Mana Lugia... Not English. Regardless, I've given up trying to read his posts, since they have no organisation or relavent content.

learn from your own mistakes b4 u teach me anything,

Usually, you should try not to make similar errors in your own grammar when you try to correct someone else's grammar.

"so stop it" is not a full setence.

"Stop it" is a full sentence. It has an inferred "you" as the sentence's subject. Sentence fragments can be used in writing for emphasis. For example: "Back on-topic."

I've tried Mr. Mime, and every time I used it it couldn't last long enough for a Baton Pass, because a physical sweeper comes along. I haven't tried it without Baton Pass. Maybe it will work as an isolated special tank, but I'd keep Mr. Mime in BP-themed teams.

 

[Ice demon]

Yes well all this is nothing short of amusing

back on topic
Mr Mime doesn't have the hp to sub or to pass IMO

the best is
Mr Mime[modest]
EVs - hp, SpDef, SpAtt
psychic
encore
thunderbolt/thunderwave
calm mind/barrier

oh well he's nothing but a crappy gardevoir IMO

Tanegla[bold]
EVs - Def, Hp, SpAtt
HP grass
leech seed
sleep powder
growth/toxic/HP water/fire


I like him ^_^

 

[kirby00]

mana stop being mean, grow-up serisouly.. god im trying to be nice, and i dont care about netbattling soo much like you do, sorry if im not obsessed... lay off or stop talking at all. u need to think about ppl's feelings and not some stupid netbattle. even if i netbatteld u and happened 2 beat u, i wouldnt even want 2 win against some1 so mean as u...
for tangela i like ingrain (prevent roar), sleep powder, hp grass, growth

 

[Simon]

mana stop being mean, grow-up serisouly.. god im trying to be nice, and i dont care about netbattling soo much like you do, sorry if im not obsessed... lay off or stop talking at all. u need to think about ppl's feelings and not some stupid netbattle. even if i netbatteld u and happened 2 beat u, i wouldnt even want 2 win against some1 so mean as u...

NBing was never even brought up by Mana.

if u havent noticed i dont remember any1 but u complaining recently about my english, so maybe u need to get over it.

I also have problems with your freakish english.

Tanegla[bold]
EVs - Def, Hp, SpAtt
HP Grass/Sludge Bomb
Leech Seed
Sleep Powder
Protect

It's like a crappy Venusaur.

 

[Mana Lugia]

mana stop being mean, grow-up serisouly.. god im trying to be nice, and i dont care about netbattling soo much like you do, sorry if im not obsessed... lay off or stop talking at all. u need to think about ppl's feelings and not some stupid netbattle. even if i netbatteld u and happened 2 beat u, i wouldnt even want 2 win against some1 so mean as u...
for tangela i like ingrain (prevent roar), sleep powder, hp grass, growth

You can't tell me to grow up if you act like an 8 year old yourself, because that'd be hypocrisy at its finest.

*learn from your own mistakes b4 u teach me anything, then i can learn from some1 who can actually teach me correctly.

FYI: Caps the L, b4 is spelt before, u is spelt You, cap the I, 1 is spelt one.

If you really think I'm mean, please give reasons so I can have a good laugh at them, since I'm so mean and all. Feelings? If you can't grasp the fact that your ideas behind pokemon quite often make no sense whatsoever, then I don't think feelings are a consideration at this point. And finally, "even if i netbatteld u and happened 2 beat u..." So you can beat me, go nuts, I'll be waiting. Or would you feel better if you netbattled Frostweaver instead? Or the other "meanies" who just don't agree with your ideas?

 

[kirby00]

you insulted me by comparing me 2 an 8 yr, just called me an 8 yr old, etc. its not that ahrd to see you are offending me, so why cant you see what you, yourself are doing?
the point is: if i happened 2 be bothered it would make more sense to be concerned how/why i am bothered than trying to talk about the net battling.(demonchaos he didnt talk about nbing i nthis thread but see the others yourself) im surprised it took u this long to care, or even sarcastically ask me. i dont wanna talk about it anymore b/c like toothache said, this is spam, so go spam somewhere else.
Back to topic:
tangela: sleep powder, hp fire, sunny day, leech seed. this will get rid of ice, and steel types, as well as bug (another weakness of grass), will get charged from sunny day, will gain double its speed, and sleep powder and leech seed is for a switch and to harm while not being harmed

 

[Ice demon]

Please good ppl act ur age and stop the stupid bickering

anyway wheres ur EVs, items and natures kirby00??

i'm sure someone must have requested them..........

anyway if no HP grass i kinda like HP ice on tangela
but i guess ur moveset can work........

 

[Mana Lugia]

you insulted me by comparing me 2 an 8 yr, just called me an 8 yr old, etc. its not that ahrd to see you are offending me, so why cant you see what you, yourself are doing?
the point is: if i happened 2 be bothered it would make more sense to be concerned how/why i am bothered than trying to talk about the net battling.(demonchaos he didnt talk about nbing i nthis thread but see the others yourself) im surprised it took u this long to care, or even sarcastically ask me. i dont wanna talk about it anymore b/c like toothache said, this is spam, so go spam somewhere else.
Back to topic:
tangela: sleep powder, hp fire, sunny day, leech seed. this will get rid of ice, and steel types, as well as bug (another weakness of grass), will get charged from sunny day, will gain double its speed, and sleep powder and leech seed is for a switch and to harm while not being harmed

There's a MAJOR difference in a mean comparison and a valid comparison, so no, I don't see what I'm doing. Meanwhile, what are you doing?

In any case, I'd recommand Mimey as just a regular sweeper. Even with the spD, it has the HP flaw, which means even if a special attack deals like 80 dmg to him, that's still over 25% of its max HP, and that's only assuming you max out HP and special D, right? You'd prolly want to do something else EV wise before BPing? So yeah, maybe Calm mind w/ Sub and Psy or something, though I'm not sure how effective mime would be in general.

On tangela, it gets chlorophyll, but it doesn't get m00b like Eggos does, which sucks, but if you're desperate, you can go with Chloro with 200 speed (or 198, 199) and Solar Beam/HP fire up. Alternatively, you could always try Leech seed and protect or something, though I doubt it will really have much power with such a weak spD, and special attackers running more rampant nowadays since Bliss and Lax are more afraid of mixed sweepers when EVs screwed them over.

 

[kirby00]

wuts is m00b. i still think tangela is good, at least for a basic pokemon. make it could use lets see with a leftovers, leech seed, ingrain, (helps against roar), toxic, protect. this will prevent switch, protect will help it heal ALOT when it needs to, prob as much as ludicolo, b/c ludico also gets 3 sources to heal from, except it gets rain dish, not ingrain... toxic will also gain damage as u use protect. now your opponent cant force u out, and they will probably switch b/c of toxic, and leech seed. its almost as if u make them shuffle themselves out...

 

[Toothache]

Ingrain - a much hated move for me, doesn't heal as much as you need, and the fact that you can't switch is often more of a hinderance than a help. It's a poor man's Leftovers, and it doesn't even damage your opponent like Leech Seed. However, the fact that you can Baton Pass the move makes for interesting potential (especially for versatile tanks who can Baton Pass, like Umbreon)

Mega-healer Ludicolo has been tried before, and people know how to counter it nowadays that he uses Swift Swim instead of Rain Dish (increased speed and damage is better than tanking out if you have the choice). Besides, unless you have Kyogre on your team, you have to waste a move to activate Rain Dance, giving your opponent a free turn to play with.

As for m00b, he's referring to Explosion.

 

[kirby00]

i wasnt talking bout ludicolo, except that like tangela it has 3 sorucres of healing... so what should i redo my mvoeset w/ if it doesnt work? perhaps baton pass instead of protect/toxic so that ingrain is passed on... anyways, what moves should i keep?