Cloyster what do you think of this pokemon ?

Candymancan

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    Thinking of replacing my milotic with a diff pokemon, i dont really like the milotic much.

    I was thinking of Kingdra but then i already have dragonite so what about a Cloyster ?

    I have never used one

    What do you think i think should get as a nature and where should i put the EV's ?

    I was thinking a Impish Nature and Putting the EV's in Special Defense and HP, or HP and Attack, or Maybe HP/Speed ?

    Im not totally sure TBH cuss his def is so high with Impish so i dont think i need to put EV's at least not many in there and his HP/SPDEF is so low i was thinking it would be best to go there.

    What sorta moves do you think i should put on him? I was thinkin

    Clamp
    Spike Cannon
    Spikes "or Toxic Spikes"
    Explosion "Avalanche /iceshard ? "

    Or change Impish to like Bold and have

    Ice Beam
    Surf
    Spikes
    Protect

    Not totally sure but i plan to have the Skill link Ability.


    If not cloyster then what do you guys think a good ice/water type that isnt extremely slow meaning like 50 and under. Or maybe i should go with fortress more hp less def tho, but he also doesnt have nearly as many weakness's only against fire
     
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    not sure but you could always use a lapras with high sp attack not sure which nature that is sorry
    and there always swampert
     
    Cloyster @ Leftovers
    Impish Nature
    EVs: 252 HP, 200 Def, 58 Atk
    -Ice Shard
    -Rapid Spin
    -Explosion
    -Spikes/ Toxic Spikes
     
    why rapid spin? Asside from getting you auto wrap affect's what good is it ? Or is there something im missing.

    I like the EV break out you put up ill probly do that
     
    Candymancan said:
    why rapid spin? Asside from getting you auto wrap affect's what good is it ? Or is there something im missing.

    I like the EV break out you put up ill probly do that
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    To get rid of Stealth Rock, Spikes and Toxic Spikes lol
     
    Ah i wish the descriptions on the moves pokemon have would be a little more descriptive. even on serbuii it says the secondary affect just gets rid of Wrap and Bind affects nothing about spikes and stuff
     
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    Candymancan said:
    Ah i wish the descriptions on the moves pokemon have would be a little more descriptive. even on serbuii it says the secondary affect just gets ride of Wrap and Bind affects nothing about spikes and stuff
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    Yeh I know they should really update those details, but anyways now you know that Rapid Spin blows those annoying rocks and spikes away

    EDIT: Do you need a forry set aswell?
     
    Well can't do evs but:
    Cloyster
    @lefties
    trait:relaxed
    Ice beam
    explosion
    rapid spin
    stealth rock
     
    Thx for the cloyster suggestion but i dunno if i like relaxed nature


    Ah forry = Fortress.

    Well im pretty sure i got a good fortress set.

    Spikes
    Rapid Spin
    Earthquake
    Explosion

    Impish Nature

    252 Speed 200 HP 52 Def
     
    Candymancan said:
    Thx for the cloyster suggestion but i dunno if i like relaxed nature


    Ah forry = Fortress.

    Well im pretty sure i got a good fortress set.

    Spikes
    Rapid Spin
    Earthquake
    Explosion

    Impish Nature

    252 Speed 200 HP 52 Def
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    =O Forry doesn't need speed EVs lol XD

    Forretress @ Leftovers
    Impish/Relaxed
    EVs: 252 HP / 6 ATK / 252 DEF
    -Earthquake
    -Spikes/Toxic Spikes (up to you both works well)
    -Rapid Spin
    -Explosion
     
    Lumine said:
    =O Forry doesn't need speed EVs lol XD

    Forretress @ Leftovers
    Impish/Relaxed
    EVs: 252 HP / 6 ATK / 252 DEF
    -Earthquake
    -Spikes/Toxic Spikes (up to you both works well)
    -Rapid Spin
    -Explosion
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    Yea but his speed is like 40 its terrible.. lol and my pokemon are already slow as it is lol. I will probly go with cloyster cuss he is faster.
     
    Candymancan said:
    Yea but his speed is like 40 its terrible.. lol and my pokemon are already slow as it is lol. I will probly go with cloyster cuss he is faster.
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    If the majority of your team are slow why not add a few Trick Room users in your team?
     
    Cloyster @ Leftovers
    Relaxed Nature
    EVs: 252 HP, 200 Def, 58 Atk
    -Ice Shard
    -Ice Beam/Rest
    -Explosion
    -Spikes

    A double Ice moveset may have it's perks. One with a high base damage. The other as an finisher.
     
    But you already have Ice Shard? and most Dragons takes Ice Shard quite painfully you know.
     
    But you already have Ice Shard? and most Dragons takes Ice Shard quite painfully you know.
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    Cloyster only does around 50-70%-ish damage to Salamence and friends so Ice Beam is good even with Ice Shard if you want a reliable damaging move.
     
    cloyster is one of my best pokes he is in my RD team

    Cloyster@Damp Rock
    Impish 252 Defense/ 200 SpeDefense/ 58 Attack
    Explosion
    Rapid Spin
    RD
    Toxic Spikes

    Rapid Spinner+RD set up.
     
    Smarties-chan said:
    Cloyster only does around 50-70%-ish damage to Salamence and friends so Ice Beam is good even with Ice Shard if you want a reliable damaging move.
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    Problem is that they could just easily swap to a special waller as most people would probably predict Ice Shard/ Ice Beam from a Cloyster, but hey it never hurts to try.
     
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