Creating Delta Species

Mutant Yoshi · Mar 2, 2016

I modified the Shiny Pokemon code to try to create Delta Species Pokemon from the TCG. However, when testing it out, it doesn't appear to be working.

Code:

  def isDelta?
    return @deltaflag if @deltaflag!=nil
    a=@personalID^@trainerID
    b=a&0xFFFF
    c=(a>>16)&0xFFFF
    d=b^c
    return (d<DELTAPOKEMONCHANCE)
  end

# Makes this Pokemon delta species.
  def makeDelta
    case rand(17)
    when 0
      @deltatype=0
    when 1
      @deltatype=1
    when 2
      @deltatype=2
    when 3
      @deltatype=3
    when 4
      @deltatype=4
    when 5
      @deltatype=5
    when 6
      @deltatype=6
    when 7
      @deltatype=7
    when 8
      @deltatype=8
    when 9
      @deltatype=10
    when 10
      @deltatype=11
    when 11
      @deltatype=12
    when 12
      @deltatype=13
    when 13
      @deltatype=14
    when 14
      @deltatype=15
    when 15
      @deltatype=16
    when 16
      @deltatype=17
    when 17
      @deltatype=18
    end
    @deltaflag=true
  end

# Makes this Pokemon not shiny.
  def makeNotDelta
    @deltaflag=false
  end

This is the code I have in PokeBattle_Pokemon.
And in PokeBattle_Battler, I replaced each instance of this line:

Code:

@type1=pkmn.type1

With this.

Code:

if !pokemon.isDelta?
      @type1=pkmn.type1
    else
      @type1=@deltatype
    end

Unfortunately, whenever I try it out and head into the tall grass, this error pops up:

Code:

Exception: NoMethodError

Message: undefined method `isDelta?' for nil:NilClass

PokeBattle_Battler:215:in `__shadow_pbInitPokemon'

Pokemon_ShadowPokemon:525:in `pbInitPokemon'

PokeBattle_Battler:517:in `pbInitialize'

PokeBattle_Battle:2532:in `pbStartBattleCore'

PokeBattle_Battle:2505:in `pbStartBattle'

InverseSkyBattles:49:in `pbWildBattle'

InverseSkyBattles:48:in `pbSceneStandby'

InverseSkyBattles:50:in `pbWildBattle'

InverseSkyBattles:47:in `pbBattleAnimation'

InverseSkyBattles:47:in `pbWildBattle'

I know I did something wrong. I'm just not sure what. Can anyone help me out?

Rot8er_ConeX · Mar 2, 2016

Things to consider when making Delta Pokemon that are the same species rather than just a new Pokedex entry:

1.) You need to initialize the deltaflag variable in Pokebattle_Pokemon. Near the top there's a bunch of lines that read "attr_accessor(:something)" Add one that reads "attr_reader(:deltaflag); attr_reader(:deltatype)" and you're good to go.

2.) Only changing SHINYPOKEMONCHANCE to DELTAPOKEMONCHANCE when copy-and-pasting def isShiny? isn't enough. Either Shinies will cut into Deltas or vice versa. Might I suggest changing that line to return (65535-d<DELTAPOKEMONCHANCE)?

3.) When changing the type that a Delta Pokemon will be, you don't want to change the Battler's type, but the Pokemon's. Get rid of your changes to PokeBattle_Battler, and instead, go into PokeBattle_Pokemon, and find def type1. In clean v16, it's found on line 367. Replace it with this:

Code:

# Returns this Pokémon's first type.
  def type1
    if self.isDelta?
      ret=(@personalID/4)%17
      ret+=1 if ret>8
      ret=@deltatype if @deltatype != nil
      return ret
    end
    dexdata=pbOpenDexData
    pbDexDataOffset(dexdata,@species,8)
    ret=dexdata.fgetb
    dexdata.close
    return ret
  end

note that your def makeDelta function would only have altered the types of un-natural deltas. As in, Deltas that your game always makes Delta for whatever reason. Hence, I made it so that other Deltas' types are based on the Pokemon's personality value.

4.) Changing def type1 doesn't affect def type2. Might I suggest this?

Code:

# Returns this Pokémon's second type.
  def type2
    if self.isDelta?
      ret=((@personalID/4)/17)%17
      ret+=1 if ret>8
      ret=@deltatype if @deltatype != nil
      return ret
    end
    dexdata=pbOpenDexData
    pbDexDataOffset(dexdata,@species,9)
    ret=dexdata.fgetb
    dexdata.close
    return ret
  end

Now if @deltatype exists, then it'll be a single-typed Delta. If not, then it'll have a chance at being dual-typed.

5.) Are Deltas changing abilities? Level-up Moves? TM compatibilities? Move Tutors?

6.) Note that Arceus and Castform change primary types when they change form, and all of these Pokemon change secondary type when form-changing:
Castform
Wormadam
Rotom
Shaymin
Arceus
Darmanitan
Meloetta
Hoopa
Charizard
Pinsir
Gyarados
Mewtwo
Ampharos
Aggron
Sceptile
Altaria
Lopunny
Audino
Groudon
As of right now, these default type changes will overwrite the changes done by the Pokemon being Delta. You want to figure out if you want these Pokemon to gain a different Delta typing or (my suggestion) keep their default Delta typing when they form change.

7.) now that we have Delta Pokemon working, it's time to bring them into battle!
in PokeBattle_Battler, you want to find this around line 173:

Code:

  def isShiny?
    if @effects[PBEffects::Illusion]
      return @effects[PBEffects::Illusion].isShiny?
    end
    return @pokemon.isShiny? if @pokemon
    return false
  end

You want to make a clone of this function for def isDelta?

8.) Likewise, you want to make a clone of this function found on line 18 pf PokeBattle_SafariZone:

Code:

  def isShiny?; return @pokemon.isShiny?; end

9.) You probably want to make a indicator in battle if a Pokemon is Delta. Essentials already does one for shininess.

10.) You also likely want to make Delta Pokemon have different sprites.

Mutant Yoshi · Mar 2, 2016

That worked! I tested the changes you made and it all worked with relatively no problems at all! I even evolved the Pokemon and their typing remained, just as I wanted!

Also, I'd like TM/Move Tutor compatibility to change with the new typings of the Delta Pokemon, but I'm not 100% sure how to go about it. As for abilities, I'm not sure if I want them to remain or change, tbh. And I do have an indicator planned for it. I intend to show a the type symbol(s) from the TCG in the box just like the symbol for Primal Reversion/Shiny Pokemon.

Also, when encountered in the wild and not owned by trainers, I thought about having the game display a message that says "Oh! It's a delta species!" just before the player sends out their Pokemon.

EDIT: Got the display message to work since I posted that. Now I'm working on the icons for the delta types, but two issues.

1. I'm not sure where to put them where they're not in the way of the Primal Reversion/Shiny displays.
2. For whatever reason, the sprite isn't showing up on the screen.

Code:

if @battler.isDelta?
      imagepos.push(["Graphics/Pictures/delta.png",@spritebaseX+140,4,0,0,-1,-1])
    end

in PokeBattle_Scene. This is just the testing version of the script. In the finished version, I intend the "delta.png" part to display the symbol for the type the Pokemon is.

[PokeCommunity.com] Creating Delta Species

These are just examples.

Rot8er_ConeX · Mar 3, 2016

1.) You never explained if you want form changes to alter the Delta types (i.e., if an Electric/Fighting-type Delta Gyarados should Mega Evolve and become, maybe, Electric/Grass, or if it should always stay Electric/Fighting. Even if you're not going to have Mega Evolution, you still need to worry about:
Castform
Wormadam
Rotom
Shaymin
Arceus
Darmanitan
Meloetta
Hoopa)

2.) Adding in an indicator. Found on line 655 of PokeBattle_Scene:

Code:

    if @battler.isShiny?
      shinyX=206
      shinyX=-6 if (@battler.index&1)==0 # If player's Pokémon
[COLOR="Blue"]      shinyX-=18 if @battler.isDelta?[/COLOR]
      imagepos.push(["Graphics/Pictures/shiny.png",@spritebaseX+shinyX,36,0,0,-1,-1])
    end

Add the blue line. Under that, put this:

Code:

    if @battler.isDelta?
      deltaX=206
      deltaX=-6 if (@battler.index&1)==0 # If player's Pokémon
      deltaX+=18 if @battler.isShiny?
      imagepos.push(["Graphics/Pictures/delta.png",@spritebaseX+deltaX,36,0,0,-1,-1])
    end

Note that as of right now, it'll display one image for all Deltas, regardless of type. I will get to that later. Working on making my own image for you to use, and I'll also need to write a script to translate game types into TCG types.

Mutant Yoshi · Mar 3, 2016

Oh right! Sorry about that. I think the Mega Evolution types should remain the same as they were before Mega Evolving. As for Arceus, I think I might need to have him be an exception: As in the only one to not have a Delta type.

Finished the indicators I was going to use. But if you want to use your own sprites, that's fine too. (Note: ??? type won't actually be a delta. I just included it as an error handler.)

Rot8er_ConeX · Mar 3, 2016

Okay, then in order for the types to properly work:
1.) Go into PokeBattle_Pokemon's def isDelta?
At the very top of the function, add the line return false if isConst?(self.species,PBSpecies,:ARCEUS). Now Arceus cannot be Delta.

2.) Now go into PokeBattle_MultipleForms, and find def type1
add the line return self.__mf_type1 if self.isDelta?

3.) Likewise, add return self.__mf_type2 if self.isDelta? to the start of def type2. Now all form changes for Delta Pokemon will be the same type as their standard form.

4.) I just made a graphic that has all the normal types from the TCG, and thought it would be interesting if we only used the TCG types for the symbols (meaning Grass and Bug types would have the same icon, for example). Is this a bad idea? It adds to the mystery of what type a Delta is - since you normally don't know what type a Pokemon is when you first see it.

Mutant Yoshi · Mar 3, 2016

You can go ahead and do that if you want, but I personally would rather have the other types shown. I guess it's a personal preference.
As for Castform, I'm thinking maybe type 2 should be its regular typings (excluding the default form) while type 1 is the regular delta typing. Same deal with Darminitan's Zen Mode. Shaymin, Meloetta, and Hoopa, however, I'm thinking should have the same thing as Mega Evolutions.

Rot8er_ConeX · Mar 3, 2016

1.) then in type2 in step 3 of my previous post, change that line to read

Code:

return self.__mf_type2 if self.isDelta? && ![getConst(PBSpecies,:CASTFORM),getConst(PBSpecies,:DARMANITAN)].include?(self.species)

2.) Fair enough. I'll find a picture with all the proper types, then will get back to you.

Mutant Yoshi · Mar 3, 2016

Alright. Thanks again. Though now that I think about it, I'm thinking about how I'm going to modify the TM/Move Tutor set for the Pokemon. I think it would make sense to base it on delta typing rather than modifying each individual species, but how would I go about doing that?

Rot8er_ConeX · Mar 3, 2016

Attached is a file with an icon for each type, in their programmed order.

to make the game display properly. PokeBattle_Scene:

Code:

    if @battler.isDelta?
      deltaX=206
      deltaX=-6 if (@battler.index&1)==0 # If player's Pokémon
      deltaX+=18 if @battler.isShiny?
      if @[email protected]
        imagepos.push(["Graphics/Pictures/delta.png",@spritebaseX+deltaX+8,36+8,20*@battler.type1,0,20,-1])
      else
        imagepos.push(["Graphics/Pictures/delta.png",@spritebaseX+deltaX,36,20*@battler.type1,0,20,-1])
        imagepos.push(["Graphics/Pictures/delta.png",@spritebaseX+deltaX+16,36+16,20*@battler.type2,0,20,-1])
      end
    end

As for the TM/Move Tutor compatibility, the way I have it working in my game is by removing any TMs and Move Tutors that share a type with the original type for the species (aside from the "everyone learns them" TMs), then gift them with every TM/Move Tutor that share a type with their new type. I'll have to see if I can adapt this to v16, since mine is coded in v15.

Mutant Yoshi · Mar 3, 2016

A few issues. When I set the Delta Species switch on, for whatever reason, it's still not being displayed. Strangely enough, however, it works when I set both the delta and shiny switch on, but... The delta symbol...

It kinda gets cut off. Is this because of v16?

Rot8er_ConeX · Mar 3, 2016

Hmmm....interesting. When the Shiny switch is off, it should be displaying exactly where that shiny star is now.

Try this:

Code:

    if @battler.isDelta?
      deltaX=206
      deltaX=-6 if (@battler.index&1)==0 # If player's Pokémon
      deltaX+=18 if @battler.isShiny?
      if @[email protected]
        imagepos.push(["Graphics/Pictures/delta.png",@spritebaseX+deltaX,10+8,20*@battler.type1,0,20,-1])
      else
        imagepos.push(["Graphics/Pictures/delta.png",@spritebaseX+deltaX-8,10,20*@battler.type1,0,20,-1])
        imagepos.push(["Graphics/Pictures/delta.png",@spritebaseX+deltaX+8,10+16,20*@battler.type2,0,20,-1])
      end
    end

Rot8er_ConeX · Mar 3, 2016

Okay, to make TMs work the way I have them in my game, except for alterations to v16, go to Pokemon_MultipleForms. Around line 94, you should find def isCompatibleWithMove?(move). You want to replace that function with all of this:

Code:

  def isCompatibleWithMove?(move)
    data=load_data("Data/tm.dat")
    return false if !data[move]
    species=self.species
	return false if isConst?(species,PBSpecies,:WURMPLE)
    return false if isConst?(species,PBSpecies,:SILCOON)
    return false if isConst?(species,PBSpecies,:CASCOON)
    return false if isConst?(species,PBSpecies,:BELDUM)
    return false if isConst?(species,PBSpecies,:COMBEE)
    return false if isConst?(species,PBSpecies,:MAGIKARP)
    return false if isConst?(species,PBSpecies,:KAKUNA)
    return false if isConst?(species,PBSpecies,:WEEDLE)
    return false if isConst?(species,PBSpecies,:METAPOD)
    return false if isConst?(species,PBSpecies,:CATERPIE)
    return false if isConst?(species,PBSpecies,:DITTO)
    return false if isConst?(species,PBSpecies,:SMEARGLE)
    return false if isConst?(species,PBSpecies,:UNOWN)
    return false if isConst?(species,PBSpecies,:WOBBUFFET) && !isConst?(move,PBMoves,:SAFEGUARD)
    return false if isConst?(species,PBSpecies,:WYNAUT) && !isConst?(move,PBMoves,:SAFEGUARD)
    return false if isConst?(species,PBSpecies,:KRICKETOT)
    if isConst?(species,PBSpecies,:BURMY) &&
         !isConst?(move,PBMoves,:PROTECT) &&
         !isConst?(move,PBMoves,:HIDDENPOWER)
      return false
    end
    if isConst?(species,PBSpecies,:TYNAMO) &&
         !isConst?(move,PBMoves,:CHARGEBEAM) &&
         !isConst?(move,PBMoves,:THUNDERWAVE)
      return false
    end
    if isConst?(species,PBSpecies,:MEW)
      if isConst?(move,PBMoves,:FRENZYPLANT) ||
         isConst?(move,PBMoves,:BLASTBURN) ||
         isConst?(move,PBMoves,:HYDROCANNON) ||
         isConst?(move,PBMoves,:DRACOMETEOR) ||
         isConst?(move,PBMoves,:GRASSPLEDGE) ||
         isConst?(move,PBMoves,:FIREPLEDGE) ||
         isConst?(move,PBMoves,:WATERPLEDGE) ||
         isConst?(move,PBMoves,:SECRETSWORD) ||
         isConst?(move,PBMoves,:RELICSONG) ||
         isConst?(move,PBMoves,:DRAGONASCENT)
        return false
      else
        return true
      end
    end
	return true if isConst?(move,PBMoves,:TOXIC)
    return true if isConst?(move,PBMoves,:HIDDENPOWER)
    return true if isConst?(move,PBMoves,:PROTECT) && !isConst?(species,PBSpecies,:REGIGIGAS)
    return true if isConst?(move,PBMoves,:FRUSTRATION)
    return true if isConst?(move,PBMoves,:RETURN)
    return true if isConst?(move,PBMoves,:FACADE)
    return true if isConst?(move,PBMoves,:REST) && !isConst?(species,PBSpecies,:REGIGIGAS)
    return true if isConst?(move,PBMoves,:ATTRACT)
    return true if isConst?(move,PBMoves,:ROUND)
    return true if isConst?(move,PBMoves,:SWAGGER)
    return true if isConst?(move,PBMoves,:SLEEPTALK)
    return true if isConst?(move,PBMoves,:SUBSTITUTE)
    return true if isConst?(move,PBMoves,:CONFIDE)
	if self.isDelta?
	  p=self.clone
      p.deltaflag=false
      nret=[p.type1,p.type2]
      dret=[self.type1,self.type2]
      movedata=pbRgssOpen("Data/moves.dat")
      movedata.pos=move*14
      function    = movedata.fgetw
      basedamage  = movedata.fgetb
      movetype    = movedata.fgetb
      movedata.close
      return true if dret.include?(movetype)
      return false if nret.include?(movetype)
    end
    v=MultipleForms.call("getMoveCompatibility",self)
    if v!=nil
      return v.any? {|j| j==move }
    end
    return self.__mf_isCompatibleWithMove?(move)
  end

.

The "I don't learn any TMs" Pokemon still won't learn any TMs. The "I am learned by everyone" TMs will still be learned by everyone. Mew retains his "I learn every TM and Move Tutor except those that are exclusive to one Pokemon" attribute. Other than those three things, Delta Pokemon will learn every TM/Move Tutor that shares a type with them, and learn none of the ones that share a type with the non-Delta version of them.

Mutant Yoshi · Mar 3, 2016

Just tested it out again. With the shiny switch on, it works better, but I think I'm getting a bit closer to pinpointing the issue. Without the shiny switch, it didn't display again, but when I turned the shiny switch on and the delta switch off, it displayed two delta icons despite not being delta.

EDIT: I discovered what the problem was. It was my fault. When I copied the "isShiny?" code, I forgot to change one line to "isDelta?". It's fixed now.

Rot8er_ConeX · Mar 3, 2016

What's your current results?

Wait a second, what's your def isDelta? look like in PokeBattle_Battler?

Mutant Yoshi · Mar 3, 2016

Currently, it looks like this:

Code:

def isDelta?
    if @effects[PBEffects::Illusion]
      return @effects[PBEffects::Illusion].isDelta?
    end
    return @pokemon.isDelta? if @pokemon
    return false
  end

But before I fixed it, it looked like this:

Code:

def isDelta?
    if @effects[PBEffects::Illusion]
      return @effects[PBEffects::Illusion].isDelta?
    end
    return [COLOR=Red]@pokemon.isShiny?[/COLOR] if @pokemon
    return false
  end

Rot8er_ConeX · Mar 3, 2016

Ahh, so now the icons are showing up correctly, if in the wrong place. Can I see a screenshot in battle?

Mutant Yoshi · Mar 3, 2016

I moved the symbol to where it's supposed to be. However, I don't know how the dual typing looks. I haven't been lucky enough to get a dual type delta yet.

Rot8er_ConeX · Mar 3, 2016

Mutant Yoshi said:
I moved the symbol to where it's supposed to be. However, I don't know how the dual typing looks. I haven't been lucky enough to get a dual type delta yet.

Probably because you're using the makeDelta function. Try altering DELTAPOKEMONCHANCE to be really high, then run into a naturally-created Delta Pokemon to see how it looks. It should be both icons diagonally touching.

As for the placement, looks good.

Mutant Yoshi · Mar 3, 2016

Wow! That actually did the trick!

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