3rd Gen Day.......... and Night

Zangooser

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    Since Espeon and Ubreon are back
    The only way for Eevee to evolve into those two is to raise them in the dark or the light. which means that the Morning/Noon/Evening/Night thing from GSC is comming back. :\ :disappoin :\ :disappoin
     
    No, It Doesn't. THe Programmers wanted to keep the game as original as possible. Only way to get Espeon/Umbreon isto trade from Colluseum. That's it. You don't get them in FR/LG. Sorry to burst your bubble :P
     
    Not at all. In Ru/Sa, Wurmple evolves to Silcoon in sunlight, and to Cascoon during the night and the Day/Night system didnt appaered...
     
    Nope. Wurmple evolves COMPLETELY RANDOMLY. Day and night doesn't do a thing for Wurmple

    However, day and night does exist. It doesn't do any effect on graphics or anything like in GSC. Eevee will evolve into Umbreon or Espeon after you unlock the Nationaldex, and then depending on day and night, Eevee will evolve. (however since there's no graphic for day and night, you'll just have to check the time yourself).
     
    frostweaver said:
    Nope. Wurmple evolves COMPLETELY RANDOMLY. Day and night doesn't do a thing for Wurmple

    However, day and night does exist. It doesn't do any effect on graphics or anything like in GSC. Eevee will evolve into Umbreon or Espeon after you unlock the Nationaldex, and then depending on day and night, Eevee will evolve. (however since there's no graphic for day and night, you'll just have to check the time yourself).

    What the heck are you talking about

    Wurple's evolution depends on Gender :tired:
     
    That's right. Well, it's what I've found anyway. And to evolve Eevee into Espeon and Umbreon, trade it to Ru/Sa and then evolve them when it's the appropriate time. If it's the same from GSC, then Espeon can evolve from 6am to 5:59 pm, and Umbreon from 6pm to 5:59 am. Just check the clock in your room in Littleroot.
     
    It seems there's a lot of misconceptions about Eevee and his friendship evolutions. And Dustox and Beautifly as well, it seems. Let me attempt to clarify things.

    While there is no apparent day and night in Ruby and Sapphire, the internal clock does work in the same way as Gold, Silver and Crystal. Wurmple's two evolutions, Silcoon and Cascoon are dependant on the time in which you evolve him.

    From people who've hacked an Eevee into their game, it is even possible to level up and gain either an Espeon or an Umbreon through happiness - although you may have to do a bit of guesswork to work out when night and day time is, since you can't really check it.
     
    I have done test I evolved two wrumples a the same time of day one female one male

    males = Beautifly
    females = Dustox

    forgive my bad spelling :nervous:
     
    I'm sure that it's not day and night, as you can get both at the same time. However this misconception is very common (I thought that it's day/night at first too) because Beautifly learns morning sun and Dustox learns moonlight, leading us to think of Beautifly as day and Dustox as night.

    Gender is also impossible, as you CAN get male and female Beautiflies. You can prove this by finding both male and female silcoons, male and female cascoons. Gender is out of the picture. All semi-accurate pokedexes online will tell you that there's 50% for both gender for both Beautifly and Dustox.

    This leaves us with personality values and EVs left as they are the only numbers left. EV is manipulated, so it cannot be EV. All we're left with is personality values, and controlling that is impossible, so we can just say "it's random."

    Testing with Wurmple for evolution is OFTEN inaccurate, such as the many claims made in this thread. This is because there are too many personality value combinations (31 to the power of 6 = 887503681). Out of all those massive amounts of possible combinations, 443751841 of those combinations will result in Beautifly, and the others in Dustox. You can easily catch 20 male Wurmples that satisfy one out of the 44375184 possible combinations to get yourself a Beautifly.

    This is the reason why all this Wurmple matter vary from site to site. How can you "test" it out? You won't find a unified answer. The only way to find this is to hack into the game itself and see what's the determining factor, which is what Meowth has done.
     
    Its totally random, I already experimented on this. I caught 12 Wurmple (yes..research took a while, but patience shone through) and I carried 6 with me the first time. The result of the First Set was:

    -Keep in mind I will skip Cascoon and Silcoon-
    Male Wurmple > Beautifly
    Female Wurmple > Dustox
    Male Wurmple > Dustox
    Female Wurmple > Dustox
    Male Wurmple > Beautifly
    Female Wurmple > Dustox

    The First Set obviously had over 50% Dustox. But the next set:

    Male Wurmple > Dustox
    Female Wurmple > Beautifly
    Male Wurmple > Beautifly
    Female Wurmple > Dustox
    Male Wurmple > Dustox
    Female Wurmple > Beautifly

    The Next set was equally rivaled. So me puzzled, I went out and captured 6 more Wurmple, and this was the result:

    Male Wurmple > Dustox
    Female Wurmple > Beautifly
    Male Wurmple > Beautifly
    Female Wurmple > Dustox
    Male Wurmple > Beautifly
    Female Wurmple > Dustox

    Once again...this set tied between Dustox and Beautifly.

    Totally random, 18 Wurmple and a few hours of research. Although There was slightly more than 50% Dustox (10 to be exact) I can still say totally random, none of them were given anything to hold, and were all raised the same way.

    -Now...I have 18 Dustox/Beautifly...who wants one?
     
    Well, mine always evolved to Beautifly at Day, and Dustox at night... So its just coincidence @__@

    But how about the High and Low Tides at Shoal Cave?
     
    The Shoal Cave changes tide every six hours (a sailor right near to the cave tells you about that).
     
    Toothache said:
    The Shoal Cave changes tide every six hours (a sailor right near to the cave tells you about that).

    So... There are no Night at Ru/Sa? o__o
     
    Not completely sure about that. There is time, yes, because a lot of things depend on the internal clock (berry growth, Shoal Cave, etc), but I'm not completely sure how it's set up
     
    I'm sure the time is the same as it was in GSC, so look at my earlier post where I put the times as I explained about Espeon and Umbreon.
     
    Night doesn't exist. "Nightime" does though. You can't see any graphic changes, so night doesn't exist. However, the effect of nightime is still here, even though it's minimal and almost neglectable.

    -affects evolution (Eevee into Espeon or Umbreon)
    -affects moonlight/synthesis/morning sun

    The biggest lost is the different wild Pokemon found depending on time of the day... I have no idea why they want to wipe out neat things like that O.o;
     
    frostweaver said:
    Night doesn't exist. "Nightime" does though. You can't see any graphic changes, so night doesn't exist. However, the effect of nightime is still here, even though it's minimal and almost neglectable.

    -affects evolution (Eevee into Espeon or Umbreon)
    -affects moonlight/synthesis/morning sun

    The biggest lost is the different wild Pokemon found depending on time of the day... I have no idea why they want to wipe out neat things like that O.o;

    Thanks for da Explanation, frostweaver...
    And I agree... Hitting people with Mach Bike at Night would be cool and I would call myself an Assassin ^_^ XD
     
    uh...wurmple's evolution is random

    as for espeon and umbreon

    the game has an internal clock remember

    u don't see the change but espeon and umbreon

    both evolve, at the according times

    6PM to 5:59AM u get umbreon
    6AM to 5:59PM u get Espeon

    I have both in my sapphire version , all u need is an eevee to breed
    so u can get the others

    besides if it's a remake u can get eevee in that um...saffron or was that
    celedon...I don't remember but where the casino is in the old version
    u could get an eevee there so you should be able to get one in fr/lg
     
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