"Double Team Turnover!" Episode Discussion

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    Here is where you can discuss Team Galactic's attack in "Double Team Turnover!"

    My review to come forthwith.

    (Since it was an one hour special in Japan, trying to maintain that Japanese title theme. Or shall I re-edit?)
     
    I don't see the theme.

    Anyway:
    - I found it good that Pachi was in a battle like this. Poor Sudowoodo though.
    - Does anyone know who voices Jupiter?
    - I find Chimchar quite annoying. Evolve already!
    - Akagi is so mysterious leaving the Pokémon Center and all.
    - The narrator sounds quite evil.
     
    Fun fun fun...

    - Gastrodon~!
    - Chimchar died. =)
    - The police officers are really Team Rocket?! Never saw that coming. :O
    - *Noodle jokes*
    - It looks like Team Rocket got away...
    - Could it really be true? They got away? :o
    - And like that, Team Galactic is gone.
    - !!! Well well well, now who do we have here? It's Jupiter!
    - *So that's where the new Naruto episodes are...*
    - What in the world made Jessie think that the ruins was a good place to hide? That would probably be the ONE place I wouldn't go to. :S
    - Uh oh. Team Rocket got a little too risky with the orb, didn't they? :s
    - *Noodle jokes*
    - It amazes me how nobody can tell Cyrus is insane.
    - The orbs are Dialga and Palkia?!? :O
    - *Obligatory battling*
    - Cynthia has discernment...
    - Narrator is using his special voice today. =O
    - LOL. Poor Saturn. XD
    - Cyrus looks... disfigured at the end. Still awesome anyway.
    - TO BE CONTINUED...
    - No 4Kids today. =)

    Great episode. I accidentally woke up 30 minutes early so.... yeah. PUSA really is doing a great job with this show. I hope they keep it up. I don't think there is a new episode next week, due to the Transformers special-thing, so these episodes will have to do.
     
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    Meh, it was kinda slow...
    What's with all the main character Pokemon dying now?
    OMG, the narrator.
    The last part was epic, Cyrus went all maniacal laughter on them. xD
     
    I wonder what will happen if Ash and company find out that Cyrus is the leader of Team Galatic. I can imagine them saying something along the lines that Cyrus deceiving them and be willing to taking him on. I am looking foward to seeing the next episode.
     
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    I really liked this episode. This two-parter was brilliant!
    [PokeCommunity.com] "Double Team Turnover!" Episode Discussion


    Loved all the Galactic Admins appearing and the music was really good this week and the episode seemed to fly by.

    I loved the reference to Iron Island at the end, also the idea that J might be capturing the lake guardians.

    And somehow I would love it that when Team Galactic is destroyed it could be Team Rocket that causes it, maybe not knowingly, like accidentally sitting on a button that blows up their base or something. Would just be a nice comeback after all they got from them
    [PokeCommunity.com] "Double Team Turnover!" Episode Discussion
     
    I was expecting a bit more action after last week...but this was alright, I suppose. My ELoT:

    - WHAT. THE. HELL?
    - Lol at TR. They were so nearly successful...
    - Jessie and James look strangely fat in this episode...is that just me?
    - Cyrus is really biding his time...
    - Is croagunk...dead?! It hasn't moved even slightly.
    - Spirit key? Have I missed something?
    - ITS ALIVE!
    - I can't be the only one who went AWWWWWWWW! at that little scene.
    - Pointy heads....LAWLZ!
    - Wobbuffet...haven't seen him in a while...
    - What's with all the glowing?
    - How long does it take them to get suspicious of him?
    - Its nice to see the bad guys win for once...
    - Is that meant to be a SHOCK?
    - Cue the evil "Mwahahahahaha"
     
    Skuntank is bigger than I imagined and Cyrus is a creepo.
     
    I kinda skipped a lot of the episode

    - Oh yeah, forgot about Brock
    - WHOA, the narrator at the end sounds pretty serious
    - Love the laugh

    Music kept:

    Ash sends out Chimchar
    Sinnoh Team Rocket Motto theme
    Team Galectic let Team Rocket leave the building
    Ash sends out Staravia
    In the Pokemon Centre
    Team Rocket sneaking theme
    Staravia outside the window
    Cyrus getting angry about "the truth" something like that XD
    Attacking the Golbat
    Cyrus in his Team Galectic uniform

    Dialogue edit:

    This seemed pretty deliberate to me. It's the scene right at the start.

    Dub:

    Saturn: I really don't like showing off, but I guess I have no choice...the burden of great power...
    Cynthia: Oh please, well I'm just fine with showing off
    --Pretty weird

    Japanese:

    Saturn: We are not interested in violence, but it seems unavoidable
    Shirona: I don't dislike violence
     
    Hmm it may not just be that, but I think they don't like the idea of one of the heroes saying that violence may not be bad in all situations, they probably think that parents would complain saying that it's encouraging violence. Even though the whole show is about battling animals...it doesn't effect the episode much, but it shows that PUSA don't just let anything through like some seem to think, they will still censor it if they feel the need to.
     
    Whoa pretty sweet episode...but did I hear right? Is Jupiter going to contact the Pokemon Hunter (Jay obviously) to try and capture the three pixie pokemon? That is going to be one fierce combination if Hunter Jay works with Team Galactic!!! and...question...

    When does the USA get the new opening like how Japan did???
     
    I loved this episode. A lot. But I preferred it in Japanese. =P

    However, I really, really loved this episode. I think it has a lot to do with me loving the Ginga-dan. And Saturn, he's so cool! Although, I think it would've been better without Shirona (Cynthia), I really dislike her.

    And the episode before it (just saying this because I feel like it), the battle between Guregguru and Dokuroggu was completely freaking sweet and intense.

    But the battle between Hikozaru/Pikachu and Dokuroggu was a little less intense. . =(
     
    Jorah said:
    Hmm it may not just be that, but I think they don't like the idea of one of the heroes saying that violence may not be bad in all situations, they probably think that parents would complain saying that it's encouraging violence. Even though the whole show is about battling animals...it doesn't effect the episode much, but it shows that PUSA don't just let anything through like some seem to think, they will still censor it if they feel the need to.
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    Lo, I guess so. It does seem a little odd, though.

    PUSA: Hey, you said violence is good! We can't allow that!
    Pokemon Japan: But...the entire show is about violence. Haven't you been watching it?
    PUSA: Yeah, but then we only saw the violence. To actually hear the word 'violence' is...well, unthinkable.
    Pokemon Japan: ...I hate the USA...
     
    This episode was EPIC.

    -Gastrodon...kinda anti-climatic.
    -Where the heck is Brock??!
    -Good lord, Jupiter looks awful!!!
    -Spirit Key? What is that, that wasn't in the game as far as I can remember...
    -Ohh, there he is, missing the action as usual.
    -Hunter J?? She's stealing the lake guardians?

    Rating: 15/10!! Man, I hope next week goes by fast...
     
    You know, for once I'm actually not disappointed with the voices PUSA chose for their characters. The voice for Cyrus actually made him feel like an original character for me, as opposed to being the same japanese voice I've already heard a billion times, and it seemed to give his speech so much more emotion (note: I saw the japanese episode with subtitles, so I roughly know the dialogue for both), and I also thought the voices of the admins seemed really fitting for their character.

    However I can't only say positive things, especially when there are flaws to be pointed out. First off, I know it's a long-running trend for the main protagonists of this series to be complete morons when it comes to common sense, but Cyrus nearly blurted out his ambitions in front of all of them, and he was evilly laughing when the swarm of Golbat flooded the ruins, not really seeing them as an opposing threat. With that, and the fact that he's a man of little to no words whenever Team Galactic is around, and him showing nearly no feelings towards the successful theft of the Lustrous Orb in the end, it actually surprised me when Ash recognized Team Rocket before they started their motto in this episode.

    Overall, after seeing this episode in english, I actually think it's one of the best ones to have been released in a long time! Also, PURUGLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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