help team building

[ultranerd57]

ok heres 5 of my pokemon the last i cant decide so i need help

Charizard@ quick claw
252 sp atk 252 atk 6 spd
brave nature
EQ
flamethrower
brick breack
dragon pulse

Lucario@ black belt
252 speed 252 sp atk 6 def
modest nature
aura sphere
dragon pulse
dark pulse
cant remember

Starmie@ wise glasses
252 spd 252 sp atk 6 sp def
modest nature
t bolt
psychic
surf
ice beam

Heracross@ expert belt
252 atk 252 spd 6 sp def
adamant nature
EQ
night slash
close combat
megahorn

going to have blissey for a wall plz dont recommend emerald move tutor for anything i dont own emerald

sorry for the sweepers some of the pokes i like

 

[Anti]

ok heres 5 of my pokemon the last i cant decide so i need help

Charizard@ quick claw
252 sp atk 252 atk 6 spd
brave nature
EQ
flamethrower
brick breack
dragon pulse

Lucario@ black belt
252 speed 252 sp atk 6 def
modest nature
aura sphere
dragon pulse
dark pulse
cant remember

Starmie@ wise glasses
252 spd 252 sp atk 6 sp def
modest nature
t bolt
psychic
surf
ice beam

Heracross@ expert belt
252 atk 252 spd 6 sp def
adamant nature
EQ
night slash
close combat
megahorn

going to have blissey for a wall plz dont recommend emerald move tutor for anything i dont own emerald

Blissey@Lefties
Bold
252 HP, 252 defense, 6 Special attack
~Softboiled
~ice beam
~thunder wave
~aromatherapy

If twave is a tutor move, good luck with the replacement...

Now, for that team...brave SUCKS on charizard, as it destroys its speed. Heracross should have either CB or Cscarf...Put choice specs on starmie...or something better than the item you have...lucario...can't remember? Otherwise, yeah, it's fine.

That Zard you have is meesed up. Go naughty nature, max speed EVs, and the rest of the EVs in attack stats...well, here:

Charizard@Life Orb
Naughty
252 Speed, 129 attack, 129 Special attack
~Flamethrower
~EQ
~DD
~air slash/dragon pulse/...something else

Really, Chari needs max speed. But I'm no good with Chari in 4th gen, so get a 2nd opinion...

Now, you need a physical wall...steelix, forry, or skarm maybe?

 

[J-Rad]

Lucario-Lonely natured@Expert belt
Evs: 252speed/175sp.atck/rest sp. attack
D-pulse
Close combat
Aura shpere
Dark pulse

that should work for lucario

 

[ultranerd57]

whats forry

and i gave Zard brave nature for quick claw

starmie and heracross ill change though thanks

Lucario-Lonely natured@Expert belt
Evs: 252speed/175sp.atck/rest sp. attack
D-pulse
Close combat
Aura shpere
Dark pulse

that should work for lucario

why close combat when evs are in sp atk and it knows aura sphere?

 

[Anti]

Forgot to mention quick claw...it only works 10% OF THE TIME. Otherwise it would be used on the likes of rhyperior...and quick claw is banned...hax item, which relies on luck, not skill. Brave will always fail on Charizard, no matter what the moveset is.

 

[ultranerd57]

ok ill change charizard

and thunder wave i can get on blissey through firered but where do you get aromatherapy does it learn it

 

[J-Rad]

whats forry

and i gave Zard brave nature for quick claw

starmie and heracross ill change though thanks



why close combat when evs are in sp atk and it knows aura sphere?

because lonely ups attacks so u need a little less evs to have just as good and c-combat so u can den't blissisy's health, u can never be too prepared

 

[Anti]

Just to reiterate, NEVER use hax items. Also, -speed natures suck on sweepers. Steelix is a great phys. wall if you wanna use it.

 

[ultranerd57]

Just to reiterate, NEVER use hax items. Also, -speed natures suck on sweepers. Steelix is a great phys. wall if you wanna use it.

i might use steelix but i need to know what forry is first do you mean forretress if so then what should i do for steelix

 

[Iceman3k]

Uh, for future reference, people will FLAME you for using Quick Claw :x

ok heres 5 of my pokemon the last i cant decide so i need help

Charizard @ Shell Bell
EVs: 252 Atk / 136 Spd / 120 SAtk
Naughty nature
Earthquake
flamethrower / Fire Blast
Dragon Dance
Dragon Claw
I thought we already talked about Charizard >(

Lucario @ Choice Specs
252 speed 252 sp atk 6 def
Timid nature
aura sphere
dragon pulse
dark pulse
Psychic / Flash Cannon / Vacuum Wave

Starmie@ Choice Specs
252 spd 252 sp atk 6 sp def
Timid nature
t bolt
Grass Knot
surf
ice beam

Heracross@ Choice Scarf
252 atk 252 spd 6 sp def
adamant nature
Stone Edge
night slash
close combat
megahorn

going to have blissey for a wall plz dont recommend emerald move tutor for anything i dont own emerald

sorry for the sweepers some of the pokes i like

WAY too many Sweepers. Yes, adding Blissey is a good idea for a Sp. Wall. Personally, your last slot should be Dusknoir, as it would make a good Physical Wall, as well as Normal / Fighting Resistance for your team.

 

[Anti]

Thank you iceman. Yes, forry is forretress, who else? Yeah, I thought we gave you a good Chari set? But anyways, dusknoir would be a great physical wall for you with WoW and all that...pain split, HAHAHA.

 

[ultranerd57]

yes you did say things about charizard but i did use some of your suggestions its not a single sweeper anymore but im not fond of dd because it leaves me open for attack

so i should add dusknoir instead of steelix what nature and moves?

 

[Shiraishi]

Am I the only one who hates Choice Specs on Starmie? I have Life Orb on mine. Why? In most of my battles, people were stupid enough to use Blissey on me early in the battle. I KOd it and after that, Starmie went on a complete rampage. If he had Choice Specs he couldn't do that..

 

[Anti]

yes you did say things about charizard but i did use some of your suggestions its not a single sweeper anymore but im not fond of dd because it leaves me open for attack

so i should add dusknoir instead of steelix what nature and moves?

Then give it focus sash and you can DD, or swords dance.No, use BOTH dusknoir and steelix. Get rid of one of those sweepers, so redundant really...

 

[ultranerd57]

Am I the only one who hates Choice Specs on Starmie? I have Life Orb on mine. Why? In most of my battles, people were stupid enough to use Blissey on me early in the battle. I KOd it and after that, Starmie went on a complete rampage. If he had Choice Specs he couldn't do that..

i dont much understand c specs over wise glasses either but i thought id try it first

offtopic i like that quote of yours in your sig pokemon shouldnt replace religion some americans are stupid

ok so ill ditch lucario [grimaces] and add both steelix and dusknoir but both are now useless because ive never used either and now need more help

so charizard get rid of brick break for dd and change nature now can we leave him alone

 

[Anti]

Edit that first post, and we can help...

Steelix@lefties/macho brace/iron ball
Relaxed
252 Defense, 252 HP, 6 Att
~Gyro ball
~EQ
~Stealth Rock
~Explosion

Okay, there's steelix. Other options are available, but I don't have the time to post them...there are so many.

 

[Iceman3k]

Am I the only one who hates Choice Specs on Starmie? I have Life Orb on mine. Why? In most of my battles, people were stupid enough to use Blissey on me early in the battle. I KOd it and after that, Starmie went on a complete rampage. If he had Choice Specs he couldn't do that..

I support Life Orb a lot more than I support Choice Band / Choice Specs :)

 

[Anti]

I personally like choice items, but life orb does the job well, so just pick whatever.

 

[ultranerd57]

sry for delay

Charizard @ focus sash
252atk 128 sp atk 130 spd
naughty
EQ
DD
dragon claw
flamethrower

Starmie @ life orb
252sp atk 252spd 6sp def
modest
surf
psychic
ice beam
t bolt

heracross @ expert belt
252atk 252spd 6sp def
adamant
CC
megahorn
EQ
night slash

Blissey@ lefties
252hp 252def 6sp def
soft boiled
aromatheropy
t wave
ice beam

steelix @ iron ball
252 def 252 hp 6 atk
gyro ball
EQ
stealth rock
explosion

dusknoir
WoW
pain split

 

[Anti]

CB on heracross, didn't I say that earlier? Expert belt I've only seen on Vire. Have Ice Punch and Thunderpunch for those last two slots on dusknoir. Shadow sneak is another good option.