I'm Really, Honestly Sorry

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    AS the title says, I'm honestly very sorry. For what? I have noticed how many RMT threads I post, and I'm sure you get tired of my teams, especially since they're all so similar:nervous:

    Yes, this is a 3RD GEN team, can't stress that enough. AS I'm sure you know, I only use my favorites, though they happen to be good, plusI have a lot of favorites. Well, anyways, I've brought back some old pokemon from my very 1st team here on PC, which was very poor:( Anyways, I have my new team posted here. My other thread died, but my lack of healing moves really made me unsure. Unlike all my past teams, I have absolutely NO doubts about my startegy, movesets, and EVs. Yes, my team is defensive, all of mine are. Well, b4 I bore you all to death, here's my team:

    Kingdra@Lum Berry**Hydromotor
    Trait: Swift Swim
    Timid Nature
    EVs: 252 HP, 252 Special Attack, 6 Speed
    ~Rain Dance
    ~Surf
    ~HP Electric
    ~Ice Beam

    Changed Kingdra a bit. I traded my old one to my friend and got my EQ TM back. Now I have all the TMs...but anyways, kingdra is my special sweeper, and works best when it receives CM from Hypno. My 2nd favorite pokemon, and I refuse to get rid of it. But yes, it's my special sweeper. Very VERY fast in the rain. HP electric for bulky waters and surf and ice beam being its best sweeping moves. Not my my BTW.

    Umbreon@Leftovers**Moondust
    Trait: Synronize
    Careful Nature
    EVs: 252 HP, 252 Defense, 6 Special Defense
    ~Curse
    ~Mean Look
    ~Wish
    ~Baton Pass

    Remember this guy from way back when? My team sucked then, but now I've gained some experience. Wish to heal up my walls, mostly appyling to steelix and blastoise, and hypno as well. Mean look passing...rather standard. Curse is another move I can BP to a sweeper, this time my physical charizard, and it has white herb to recover the speed lost. Yeah, a mixed wall and support pokemon.

    Steelix@Leftovers**Chromo
    Trait: Rock Head
    Impish Nature
    EVs: 252 HP, 252 Defense, 6 Attack
    ~Earthquake
    ~Explosion
    ~Roar
    ~Rock Slide

    Another worthy pokemon of receiving curse from umbreon along with Chari. Yes, it's my 3rd favorite pokemon and I won't replace it either. Yes, it needs umbreon's support to last longer, and can even hold off CBers like duggy if defense is boosted enough, and wish support doesan't hurt either. Yeah, no physical attack OHKOs steelix EVER, unless SD has been applied. Roar is because my team lacks a haxer/PHazer. Also steelix is my normal and rock resist.

    Hypno@Leftovers**Hypnoticon
    Trait: Insomnia
    Calm Nature
    EVs: 252 HP, 252 Special Defense, 6 Defense
    ~Baton Pass
    ~Calm Mind
    ~Thunder Wave
    ~Psychic

    My special wall, as well as a support pokemon. Hyppie (my own name for it) gets BP from XD, and I happen to have it. Thunder Wave slows down the opposition, while I can BP calm mind. Psychic is for STAB, and has a bit of power with calm mind. Hyppie also benefits from wish support, and it's tough to kill with a special sweeper. I ditched the pseudo passer version because it's inferior to this IMO.

    Charizard@White Herb**Deathfire
    Trait: Blaze
    Adamant Nature
    EVs: 252 Speed, 252 Attack, 6 HP Thinking about adding speciall attack EVs for skarm and heracross
    ~Earthquake
    ~Focus Punch
    ~Fire Blast

    Remeber Chari from my first team on PC as well? Probably not, but its moveset should look similar (that might be bad). Overheat for Skarm, Wing Attack/AA for STAB, and EQ hammers electric types effectively. In prediction skills, I'd give myself a 7/10, so I'm wondering if focus punch or brick break is better. It receives curse and white herb eliminatesd the speed drop...it isn't for overheat. I like how Chari can switch into CBed EQs and then dish out punishment while gaining a free turn. Steelix is the bait, and then Charizrd takes the "blow." Duggy won't like Chari too much.

    Blastoise@Leftovers**Tank-Elite
    Trait: Torrent
    Relaxed Nature
    EVs: 252 HP, 252 Defense, 6 Special Defense
    ~Surf
    ~Rapid Spin
    ~Yawn
    ~Focus Punch

    My Mence counter, if nothing else. Rapid spin to remove spikes, as I will be switching a lot with BP. Counter depreses heracross when wish support is factored in, Surf for SATB, and Torrent helps. Ice beam hits Mence, as does counter, very hard. My favorite R/B/Y starter barely over Chari and Venusaur, I had to choose it as my rapid spinner. Can receive CM to boost its power, which is why EVs are more toward Defense than SpD, that and resisting Hera and Mence. I am thinking about using it as my lead to wall common Mence leads and get rid af the spiker early.



    Okay, so yeah. My team. Any suggestions, barring replacments, are all considered greatly. Thanks in advance, and sorry once again.
     
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    AS the title says, I'm honestly very sorry. For what? I have noticed how many RMT threads I post, and I'm sure you get tired of my teams, especially since they're all so similar:nervous:

    Yes, this is a 3RD GEN team, can't stress that enough. AS I'm sure you know, I only use my favorites, though they happen to be good, plusI have a lot of favorites. Well, anyways, I've brought back some old pokemon from my very 1st team here on PC, which was very poor:( Anyways, I have my new team posted here. My other thread died, but my lack of healing moves really made me unsure. Unlike all my past teams, I have absolutely NO doubts about my startegy, movesets, and EVs. Yes, my team is defensive, all of mine are. Well, b4 I bore you all to death, here's my team:

    Kingdra @:Salac Berry **Hydromotor
    Trait: Swift Swim
    Modest Nature
    EVs: 140 HP, 216 Special Attack, 144 Speed
    ~Rain Dance
    ~Surf
    ~HP Electric/Substitute
    ~Ice Beam

    Changed Kingdra a bit. I traded my old one to my friend and got my EQ TM back. Now I have all the TMs...but anyways, kingdra is my special sweeper, and works best when it receives CM from Hypno. My 2nd favorite pokemon, and I refuse to get rid of it. But yes, it's my special sweeper. Very VERY fast in the rain. HP electric for bulky waters and surf and ice beam being its best sweeping moves. Not my my BTW.

    Umbreon@Leftovers**Moondust
    Trait: Synronize
    Bold Nature
    EVs: 240 HP, 132 Defense, 128 Special Defense
    ~Curse
    ~Mean Look
    ~Wish
    ~Baton Pass

    Remember this guy from way back when? My team sucked then, but now I've gained some experience. Wish to heal up my walls, mostly appyling to steelix and blastoise, and hypno as well. Mean look passing...rather standard. Curse is another move I can BP to a sweeper, this time my physical charizard, and it has white herb to recover the speed lost. Yeah, a mixed wall and support pokemon.

    Steelix@Leftovers**Chromo
    Trait: Rock Head
    Impish Nature
    EVs: 252 HP, 252 Defense, 6 Attack
    ~Earthquake
    ~Explosion
    ~Roar
    ~Rock Slide/Toxic/Taunt/Double Edge Lol, I was about to suggest Gyro ball with Relaxed.

    Another worthy pokemon of receiving curse from umbreon along with Chari. Yes, it's my 3rd favorite pokemon and I won't replace it either. Yes, it needs umbreon's support to last longer, and can even hold off CBers like duggy if defense is boosted enough, and wish support doesan't hurt either. Yeah, no physical attack OHKOs steelix EVER, unless SD has been applied. Roar is because my team lacks a haxer/PHazer. Also steelix is my normal and rock resist.

    Hypno@Leftovers**Hypnoticon
    Trait: Insomnia
    Calm Nature
    EVs: 252 HP, 252 Special Defense, 6 Defense
    ~Baton Pass
    ~Calm Mind
    ~Thunder Wave
    ~Psychic

    My special wall, as well as a support pokemon. Hyppie (my own name for it) gets BP from XD, and I happen to have it. Thunder Wave slows down the opposition, while I can BP calm mind. Psychic is for STAB, and has a bit of power with calm mind. Hyppie also benefits from wish support, and it's tough to kill with a special sweeper. I ditched the pseudo passer version because it's inferior to this IMO.

    Charizard@Sala Berry**Deathfire
    Trait: Blaze
    Adamant Nature
    EVs: 252 Speed, 252 Attack, 6 HP
    ~Earthquake
    ~Focus Punch/Brick Break
    ~Substitute
    ~Fire Blast.

    Remeber Chari from my first team on PC as well? Probably not, but its moveset should look similar (that might be bad). Overheat for Skarm, Wing Attack/AA for STAB, and EQ hammers electric types effectively. In prediction skills, I'd give myself a 7/10, so I'm wondering if focus punch or brick break is better. It receives curse and white herb eliminatesd the speed drop...it isn't for overheat. I like how Chari can switch into CBed EQs and then dish out punishment while gaining a free turn. Steelix is the bait, and then Charizrd takes the "blow." Duggy won't like Chari too much.

    Blastoise@Leftovers**Tank-Elite
    Trait: Torrent
    Bold Nature
    EVs: 252 HP, 252 Defense, 6 Special Defense
    ~Surf
    ~Rapid Spin/Rest
    ~Yawn
    ~Ice Beam

    My Mence counter, if nothing else. Rapid spin to remove spikes, as I will be switching a lot with BP. Counter depreses heracross when wish support is factored in, Surf for SATB, and Torrent helps. Ice beam hits Mence, as does counter, very hard. My favorite R/B/Y starter barely over Chari and Venusaur, I had to choose it as my rapid spinner. Can receive CM to boost its power, which is why EVs are more toward Defense than SpD, that and resisting Hera and Mence. I am thinking about using it as my lead to wall common Mence leads and get rid af the spiker early.



    Okay, so yeah. My team. Any suggestions, barring replacments, are all considered greatly. Thanks in advance, and sorry once again.
    Kay. Fixes in Navy Color.
     
    Well, I need rapid spin and have no wish support, so RS stays over est. I'll certainly consider yawn...toally forgot about it. If yawn could mence, and then I switch into one of my many walls, probably steelix, I could probably eventually take down mence, right? If so, yawn stays. I like subpuncher Carizard. Like mini-boah kind of. Would fire blast be enough for skarm and heracross? W/o a flying move, it can't hit hera like it used to. I'd be willing to sacrifice a few attack EVs for Special attack to beat skarm and hera. If that can work, your set stays (with FPunch). Kingdra needs HP electric so it isn't walled by bulky waters and water absorbers. I nthe rain, kingdra can outspeed just about anything with timid, so I don't see all those speed EVs necessary. It needs the Special attack to hit hard and the HP for some staying power. Kingdra is just one of those pokemon that you can't be too creative with...which kind of sucks, but I'll have to deal with it. I need more thoughts on umbreon's EV spread, as I've seen many different ones. Thanks a lot Itachi! Helped a lot.
     
    Well, I need rapid spin and have no wish support, so RS stays over est. I'll certainly consider yawn...toally forgot about it. If yawn could mence, and then I switch into one of my many walls, probably steelix, I could probably eventually take down mence, right? If so, yawn stays. I like subpuncher Carizard. Like mini-boah kind of. Would fire blast be enough for skarm and heracross? W/o a flying move, it can't hit hera like it used to. I'd be willing to sacrifice a few attack EVs for Special attack to beat skarm and hera. If that can work, your set stays (with FPunch). Kingdra needs HP electric so it isn't walled by bulky waters and water absorbers. I nthe rain, kingdra can outspeed just about anything with timid, so I don't see all those speed EVs necessary. It needs the Special attack to hit hard and the HP for some staying power. Kingdra is just one of those pokemon that you can't be too creative with...which kind of sucks, but I'll have to deal with it. I need more thoughts on umbreon's EV spread, as I've seen many different ones. Thanks a lot Itachi! Helped a lot.


    Your welcome. Um. That was just a random EV spread. I know, and I like making up my own kind of sets. Good point, May I Suggest Hp Grass, Perhaps? If you really need a Flying move, then use Aerial Ace. But I really saw on your Team, That, You didn't have a counter for Skarm and such. Also, to Hp Grass, Swampert is a real pain. Which, is why I suggested that. -Itachi Uchiha.
     
    If you go with yawn, I suggest making it a physical pokemon and going with focus punch.
     
    Well, can special attacks fix my hera problem with Zard? I mean, even a 2HKO would be decent, same goes for skarm, since curse allows Zard to take drill peck easily. However, Kingdra OHKOs skarm with HP Electric...it can take plenty of drill pecks, especially with wish support, and 2HKO Skarm at worst.Swampert...stupid thing. But gyarados is more of a concern...another stupid thing. I don't see Kingdra losing to the Swampmaniac if it has been BPed CM...but yes I see your point. Blastoise also easily outlasts skarm with all those EVs and STABed surf. I think I have more of a problem with blissey...love the name at the end of the posts though...My team relies on my BPers setting up Chari, Kingdra, and Steelix so that they can wreck the other team. They counter most anything when powered up, and counter hardly anything when not powered up. I'm very good at using BP teams, so I think I can pull it off. Good points, though Itachi...and BTW your signature is messed up juist so you know.

    EDIT: Kazaam, just read your post. But wouldn't blastoise be a useless countwer to Mence if it didn't carry ice beam? Just curious...and if it could, what nature? Relaxed? Sassy?
     
    Well, I don't think you need Kingdra and Blastoise to be special attackers. I would still max defense and put about 58 into attack and keep ice beam or surf there just in case.
     
    Well, can special attacks fix my hera problem with Zard? I mean, even a 2HKO would be decent, same goes for skarm, since curse allows Zard to take drill peck easily. However, Kingdra OHKOs skarm with HP Electric...it can take plenty of drill pecks, especially with wish support, and 2HKO Skarm at worst.Swampert...stupid thing. But gyarados is more of a concern...another stupid thing. I don't see Kingdra losing to the Swampmaniac if it has been BPed CM...but yes I see your point. Blastoise also easily outlasts skarm with all those EVs and STABed surf. I think I have more of a problem with blissey...love the name at the end of the posts though...My team relies on my BPers setting up Chari, Kingdra, and Steelix so that they can wreck the other team. They counter most anything when powered up, and counter hardly anything when not powered up. I'm very good at using BP teams, so I think I can pull it off. Good points, though Itachi...and BTW your signature is messed up juist so you know.EDIT: Kazaam, just read your post. But wouldn't blastoise be a useless countwer to Mence if it didn't carry ice beam? Just curious...and if it could, what nature? Relaxed? Sassy?

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    Ok, thanks, I'll edit my first post with all the changes. Thanks for the help guys. My team still probably needs help, but thanks much guys!

    EDIT: Oh, I noticed something was funky about that disabled sig thing...
     
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