Is There A Way To Control What I Get From Pokestops

[JX23]

I have 400 storage in my items, but all I ever seem to get is pokeballs. I'll end up getting like 115 pokeballs and like 13 great balls. I'm level 29 so I'm pretty sure this shouldn't be happening. Is there a way to get more greats and ultras? Does deleting a certain item from your storage affect which ones you get more frequently?

 

[Phoenixstarz]

There are at least 2 variables that decide what items you get from pokestops, firstly each item has its own random chance anyway so potions and pokeballs start with a greater chance than max potions and ultra balls.
Secondly the chance can be influenced by the amount of each item already in your bag. The more of an item you have the greater chance of picking another one up from a pokestop.
The best tips i can give is if there are any items you dont use then throw them all away (if you dont attack gyms then no point in hoarding revives/potions because it will impact on the number of pokeballs you pick up)
Also if you need more higher level potions then try only using 5 normal potions instead of a hyper potion, you will quickly get those 5 potions back but if you were low on hypers then it would take a while to get another one.
With pokeballs try using great balls instead of ultra balls and pokeballs instead of great balls. The most common pokemon have high flee rates but the rarer ones have low flee rates and can be caught even with the weaker balls (i caught a snorlax with a pokeball) if you have loads of razz berries then use them lots to help you save on balls and to bring that number down to a size that pokestops wont keep giving you a stupid amount of razz berries.
Last bit of advice i can give is go for a day out to a city, keep emptying your bag of the really common items you can stock up again quickly to give a better chance of stocking up on hyper/max potions and great/ultra balls. hit loads of stops and keep doing that, then at the end you can grow your regular potions and pokeball stock again

 

[VisualJae]

You'll never drop more high level items (Max Revive, Max Potion, Ultra Ball) than low level ones (Revive, Potion, Poké Ball). That's just how they're weighted.

I never use Ultra Balls on anything other than high CP super rares. Like I'll use basic Poké Balls even on a third stage Pokémon if it doesn't make a difference whether or not I catch them. I had well over 100 Ultra Balls at one point simply from reserving them. Then when I encounter Pokémon like Lapras and Snorlax, then I start tapping into the stash.

 

[Neltharion83]

Phoenixstarz is referring to an unproven myth that he came up with, there is zero evidence.

Great balls and ultraballs are rare compared to normal pokeballs, no matter what your level is.

I try to always make room for the next few pokestops, so i keep 5 of the big potions and 5 of the revivers (i have no max revivers yet). If the bag still fills up, i keep 50 berries and throw away the rest, and then i start throwing away normal pokeballs.

The items i always keep, never throw away, and always try to use wisely are great balls, ultraballs, lures, incense, and lucky eggs.

 

[Phoenixstarz]

You'll never drop more high level items (Max Revive, Max Potion, Ultra Ball) than low level ones (Revive, Potion, Poké Ball). That's just how they're weighted

I know, the point I'm trying to make is that I expect to get a hyper or max potion every 2-3 stops but I didn't have any at all then I was getting a max or hyper potion every 10 or higher. It's about increasing your chances of getting the items you want. Even a small increase in percentage can make a difference

 

[Neltharion83]

I know, the point I'm trying to make is that I expect to get a hyper or max potion every 2-3 stops but I didn't have any at all then I was getting a max or hyper potion every 10 or higher. It's about increasing your chances of getting the items you want. Even a small increase in percentage can make a difference

But its all based on confirmation bias, no evidence. Its only in your brain. If you take screenshots of your diary, showing all you get from pokestops, and screenshots of your inventory every 10 pokestops, the effect will disappear before it reaches statistical significance.

The idea that they went out of their way to program it so that you always get what you absolutely do not need (by giving you more of the stuff of which you have a lot) is ridiculous, it makes no sense. It would mean that they intentionally screw people over by giving them something that is even worse than random.

Again, you have no evidence. And we have no reason to believe you.

 

[Phoenixstarz]

Fine don't be believe me lol, I'm only trying to help

 

[Neltharion83]

Fine don't be believe me lol, I'm only trying to help

You could get someone who has 100 pokeballs, 50 great balls, and 20 ultra balls to throw away everything except 10 pokeballs, 10 great balls and 20 ultra balls hoping that this would generate additional ultra balls.

Its about as helpful as telling people that "new smartphone XY" can be charged by putting it in the microwave.

By the way, i always throw away all potions except for 5-10 max potions. Do i get more max potions? Short answer: no. Long answer: Noooooooooooo. I get loads of the lower potions, in spite of having more max potions than anything else.

Also, for the last 2 weeks, i have more great balls than regular pokeballs, (my bag is always quite full, so i have to throw away regular pokeballs), i still get more regular pokeballs than any other kind.

So my personal subjective observations completely contradict your personal subjective observations.

Over all, i still believe there is only one way to influence what you get: Bag is full, you only get XP, bag is not full, you get stuff. And after visiting 10 pokestops in a short amount of time, number 10 will have 6+ items and give 100 XP.

 

[Phoenixstarz]

From what you've just written I can see you haven't understood my method at all, there is a good chance I haven't explained myself properly so I will try again.
before I do though I will explain why I know this works, 2 months ago I was always struggling to get pokeballs and had too many potions, a few weeks later I had no potions but massive amount of pokeballs and I wasn't able to get the right balance. Since using my current method I do not run out of any items and am able to lee my bag almost full (I've expanded bag space to 450 items) and if I use too many of an item in a short time then I can pick up those items again in a short amount of time.
however at the start it is not a quick fix, depending on what item you need I would either recommend reducing the amount of Pokemon you catch if you need more balls or not hitting gyms for a day or 2 if you need potions.

Ok so first step is to work out what items you need, let's assume it's ultraballs, if you start with 0 ultra balls from my own data whenever I had no ultraballs my pick up rate was about 5% but increased to about 10% after picking up a few. Usually when hitting pokestops you find lots of Pokemon, try not to catch too many and if there is a high level one you really want then try to use pokeballs instead (you want a good number of pokeballs in bag, too many and the stops give you mainly regular pokeballs and if you have too few pokeballs then the amount f potions/revives/razz berries may impact what drops from stops)
Note that you will (almost) always get more of the basic type of the item than the highest tier ball or potion but it's the ratio that this method massively improves. I'm not claiming that by only having max potions and ultra balls will just give those items but it will give you a better ratio of top tier items that makes it possible to keep a good supply of each item that makes sure you will not run out.

Finally, your turn either try it or don't try it I don't really care but for anyone struggling to keep hold of certain items it's got to be worth a try, for me it works really well and has been working long enough to be beyond random chance

 

[Neltharion83]

From what you've just written I can see you haven't understood my method at all, there is a good chance I haven't explained myself properly so I will try again.
before I do though I will explain why I know this works, 2 months ago I was always struggling to get pokeballs and had too many potions, a few weeks later I had no potions but massive amount of pokeballs and I wasn't able to get the right balance. Since using my current method I do not run out of any items and am able to lee my bag almost full (I've expanded bag space to 450 items) and if I use too many of an item in a short time then I can pick up those items again in a short amount of time.
however at the start it is not a quick fix, depending on what item you need I would either recommend reducing the amount of Pokemon you catch if you need more balls or not hitting gyms for a day or 2 if you need potions.

Ok so first step is to work out what items you need, let's assume it's ultraballs, if you start with 0 ultra balls from my own data whenever I had no ultraballs my pick up rate was about 5% but increased to about 10% after picking up a few. Usually when hitting pokestops you find lots of Pokemon, try not to catch too many and if there is a high level one you really want then try to use pokeballs instead (you want a good number of pokeballs in bag, too many and the stops give you mainly regular pokeballs and if you have too few pokeballs then the amount f potions/revives/razz berries may impact what drops from stops)
Note that you will (almost) always get more of the basic type of the item than the highest tier ball or potion but it's the ratio that this method massively improves. I'm not claiming that by only having max potions and ultra balls will just give those items but it will give you a better ratio of top tier items that makes it possible to keep a good supply of each item that makes sure you will not run out.

Finally, your turn either try it or don't try it I don't really care but for anyone struggling to keep hold of certain items it's got to be worth a try, for me it works really well and has been working long enough to be beyond random chance

I hate to be cruel, but sometimes i have to be, because truth matters to me. FACTS MATTER.

You are deluded. You are fooling yourself based on confimation bias. It is rather pathetic to see this in a person who seems intelligent. I do feel sorry for you.

Watch some physics lectures, study some mathematics. Here is "Physics for future presidents", from 2006, its a 30 hours crash course for people who currently know nothing about physics. Many years ago this professor somehow was in the media and he said that he does not know if global warming is real or not, he doubted it. He got criticized for it. So he put together a team to research it, they did hundreds of hours of research, reviewing the evidence, and he changed his mind. Based on the evidence, he says there is certainty beyond reasonable doubt that global warming is real, and caused by human activity.

Hee it is, watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ysbZ_j2xi0&list=PLFAEDD2AE4C4AAFC6&index=1

 

[Phoenixstarz]

When I was at university my astrophysics lecturer said that there are 2 types of scientists, one group will take the accepted "facts" and make it their work to prove it, the others will challenge the accepted theories and prove them wrong.
My first post on this forum was about my frustration with the items that were dropping from pokestops and trust me it is frustrating when no one can give an answer that might help your problem. It is perfectly clear that the items from pokestops is not completely random if you are in the position that the original poster is in. There is obviously a basic drop rate for each item so that potions are more likely than super potions etc. My point is that I don't know the exact formula for everything that affects item drops but to say that it is completely random is naive and not helpful to players that are frustrated. The original poster is not going to gain anything by being told there is nothing they can do to help get more of certain items but if they try my method maybe it works maybe it won't but at the very least they've tried a new approach. Out of all the people who live locally to me that I've explained it to they are having the same success with it as I am so I really don't care if you think it's just "confirmation bias" if it gets results then it gets results and at the end of the day that's what I care about, I had plenty of ultra balls yesterday to catch a high level dragonair and a few other rates and then I had enough potions/revives to take on 5 high level gyms and still have plenty of items.

 

[NolemMing]

When I was at university my astrophysics lecturer said that there are 2 types of scientists, one group will take the accepted "facts" and make it their work to prove it, the others will challenge the accepted theories and prove them wrong.
My first post on this forum was about my frustration with the items that were dropping from pokestops and trust me it is frustrating when no one can give an answer that might help your problem. It is perfectly clear that the items from pokestops is not completely random if you are in the position that the original poster is in. There is obviously a basic drop rate for each item so that potions are more likely than super potions etc. My point is that I don't know the exact formula for everything that affects item drops but to say that it is completely random is naive and not helpful to players that are frustrated. The original poster is not going to gain anything by being told there is nothing they can do to help get more of certain items but if they try my method maybe it works maybe it won't but at the very least they've tried a new approach. Out of all the people who live locally to me that I've explained it to they are having the same success with it as I am so I really don't care if you think it's just "confirmation bias" if it gets results then it gets results and at the end of the day that's what I care about, I had plenty of ultra balls yesterday to catch a high level dragonair and a few other rates and then I had enough potions/revives to take on 5 high level gyms and still have plenty of items.

2 months ago was a long time. you remember this event well. same thing happened to me about a month ago. i was sooo questioning why i was low on certain items and high on others. i turned to internet forums for others with my problem.

some of the theories i read were that when you hit about level 22 (easy to do), the levelling up slows down, then you notice that you're getting most items from stop spinning, and not getting all those bonus items from levelling up. levelling up gives you a healthy fresh supply of EVERYTHING.

alas, this is also biased TO ME.

i think most people are way too lazy to gather any good data on spinning stops. it would require serious effort. spinning stops, and counting items for a LONG time, to get some statistical data...... probably no one wants to put that effort in.

 

[Phoenixstarz]

i think most people are way too lazy to gather any good data on spinning stops. it would require serious effort. spinning stops, and counting items for a LONG time, to get some statistical data...... probably no one wants to put that effort in.

thats pretty much why i stopped recording my data for what i get from stops, to many variables if my theory is correct.
To get accurate data you would need to say start with 50 of each item then walk round a city and delete from your bag whatever you got from each stop to ensure it is based on the same items, then test again but with more of certain items than others. Maybe i will do it once im less focused on catching pokemon, im only 6 away from getting the 142 so that would be a good time to try it then

 

[NolemMing]

thats pretty much why i stopped recording my data for what i get from stops, to many variables if my theory is correct.
To get accurate data you would need to say start with 50 of each item then walk round a city and delete from your bag whatever you got from each stop to ensure it is based on the same items, then test again but with more of certain items than others. Maybe i will do it once im less focused on catching pokemon, im only 6 away from getting the 142 so that would be a good time to try it then

here is another way. please note I don't condone botting.

create a bot. and a new account. sell ALL THE items. so 0 inventory.
have the bot sit at just 1 stop and spin that 1 stop only. record the items collected, and then auto trash right away.

collect maybe 1000 data points and see what the numbers say.