Lucario help

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    i need some suggestions for setups (EV's, moveset ect.) for my fav pokemon ;)
     
    You could try a variety of sets on Lucario. What are you requiring? Physical sweeper, special, or maybe even mixed?

    Physical version:

    Lucario @ Choice Band
    Adamant Nature
    EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 4 HP
    - Stone Edge
    - Close Combat
    - Extremespeed
    - Crunch

    Special version:

    Lucario @ Choice Specs
    Modest Nature
    EVs: 252 Sp.Atk / 252 Spd / 4 HP
    - Psychic
    - Dragon Pulse
    - Shadow Ball / Dark Pulse
    - Aura Sphere
     
    Musashi-Kun said:
    As for Special, Shadow ball is a HUGE no-no. I recommend Dark Pulse. Aura Sphere shall remain and so shall Dragon Pulse. But I have my skeptical thoughts about Psychic. With just the EV'ed Special attack and nothing more, I doubt it will do much unless something like calm mind comes. But I doubt Lucario learns that.
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    He can learn Calm mind! Just checked :)
    Vire TM :)
     
    Musashi-Kun said:
    For the Physical version, I would take out crunch for Payback. having 100 power instead of 80 is awesome. Lucario is quite slow compared to other pokemon, so just having an 80 base attack for crunch isn't really saying anything. Nope. Lucario will strike first or its dead. Payback is for the slower pokemon. Payback's power is only 50 when it strikes first. And if it gets attacked, Lucario is gone. So no.

    Take out stone edge and replace it with swords dance. Everyone knows that it has terrible accuracy. Lucario has enough to at least survive one or two hits, being a steel type and all. Steel type doesn't change the fact that its defenses are terrible. It won't be able to last a Swords Dance.

    As for Special, Shadow ball is a HUGE no-no. I recommend Dark Pulse. Aura Sphere shall remain and so shall Dragon Pulse. But I have my skeptical thoughts about Psychic. With just the EV'ed Special attack and nothing more, I doubt it will do much unless something like calm mind comes. But I doubt Lucario learns that. Shadowball and Dark Pulse do pretty much the exact same thing -_-;
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    Eh... I hate Psychic no matter what the weaknesses are.
     
    flinch items don't raise the flinch rate of moves that already have flinch rates. a lot of you don't understand that.

    mixed lucario is much better than either set, but he can only really be used for the late-game.
     
    HP 70 DEF 70 SDEF 70

    Its gonna survive at the most of 1 hit. But that is unlikely. All its defenses stats are below average and any average sweeper takes this guy out.

    I never said Dark Pulse was bad.
    Shadowball is a HUGE no-no.
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    its not that big of a concern. Yea, Dark Pulse is better.

    EDIT: Samson is right. Flinch items don't raise the moves that already have flinch-rates. And items like that are banned anyways.
     
    As for Special, Shadow ball is a HUGE no-no. I recommend Dark Pulse. Aura Sphere shall remain and so shall Dragon Pulse. But I have my skeptical thoughts about Psychic. With just the EV'ed Special attack and nothing more, I doubt it will do much unless something like calm mind comes. But I doubt Lucario learns that.
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    Psychic always OHKOs Heracross. Dark Pulse or Shadow Ball is for Cresselia trying to switch in and use Light Screen against you. I put both as options. Dark Pulse if you like flinching or Shadow Ball for hitting Heracross harder and Medicham harder.

    Hidden Power Ice can go over Dragon Pulse, as it give Lucario more coverage than just Dragon types.
     
    Don't forget, Shadow Ball can lower Sp.def, making the next one hit harder.
     
    It doesn't matter. Special Defense may be lowered but Lucario is most likely not gonna be taking hits. so Dark Pulse is the better choice.
     
    With Shadow Ball/Dark Pulse, you're only covering Psychics and Ghosts, which, wouldn't you know, aren't threats.
     
    Musashi-Kun said:
    Sorry, but I've tried it.
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    if you've tried it, then provide us with your number of trials and outcome. give us a reliable background of how many times you've tested it with King's Rock/Razor Fang (at least 50) and times without those items (at least 50 as well).

    i know you obviously didn't test it. how do i know that these items don't boost the flinch rate? because reliable sources have looked into the hex code of the game and have already seen that it doesn't boost it. it has also been tested by members of sites like Smogon.

    now, if you want to prove them wrong, go to Smogon, run some real tests and show them the results. i can assure you that they are right. they've known about how King's Rock works since ADV, and have continuously tested it for each generation.
     
    im looking for a special sweeper thanks!
     
    You could always try the moveset that Cynthia's (Pokemon League Champion, in case you forgot) Lucario had.

    Dragon Pulse
    Aura Sphere
    Psychic
    Earthquake

    Not the greatest move-set, I know. But it's providing you with a pretty decent range of type attacks. They also cover Lucario's ground and fighting weakness fairly well.
     
    Ariel said:
    You could always try the moveset that Cynthia's (Pokemon League Champion, in case you forgot) Lucario had.

    Dragon Pulse
    Aura Sphere
    Psychic
    Earthquake

    Not the greatest move-set, I know. But it's providing you with a pretty decent range of type attacks. They also cover Lucario's ground and fighting weakness fairly well.
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    I'd like to know how that works. Btw, EQ is not needed.
     
    Shirosaki said:
    You could try a variety of sets on Lucario. What are you requiring? Physical sweeper, special, or maybe even mixed?

    Physical version:

    Lucario @ Choice Band
    Adamant Nature
    EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 4 HP
    - Stone Edge
    - Close Combat
    - Extremespeed
    - Crunch

    A good physical set.

    Lucario @ Salac Berry
    Adamant Nature
    EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 4 HP
    - Blaze Kick
    - Close Combat
    - Substitute
    - Earthquake/Crunch


    A Salac Sub set works as well also.

    Lucario @ Choice Scarf
    Adamant/Jolly Nature
    EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 4 HP
    - Blaze Kick
    - Close Combat
    - Crunch/Stone Edge
    - Earthquake

    A Scarf set is always Optional.

    Special version:

    Lucario @ Choice Specs
    Modest Nature
    EVs: 252 Sp.Atk / 252 Spd / 4 HP
    - Psychic
    - Dragon Pulse
    - Shadow Ball / Dark Pulse
    - Aura Sphere

    Psychic is useless with out stab. >_o Dark Pulse > Shadow Ball...At least this one hit's Blissey. XD:


    Lucario @ Life Orb
    Modest/Timid Nature
    EVs: 252 Sp.Atk / 252 Spd / 4 HP
    - Vacuum Wave
    - Dragon Pulse
    - Dark Pulse
    - Aura Sphere

    Life Orb sweeper is cute. :3
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    *Avoids the drama on Kings Rock* -.-
     
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