Need Help for Special Sweeper.

marksman7328

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    I need a special sweeper for my team and I don't know what to use. I am new, but here is one idea I had:

    Lucario@Leftovers
    Ability: Inner Focus
    EVs: 252 Speed / 252 SAtk
    Nature: Modest/Timid
    -Dark Pulse
    -Aura Sphere
    -Dragon Pulse
    -Psychic

    Again, I am new, so please share and explain your ideas for a different special sweeper or ways to improve this one.

    Thanks.
     
    So far...

    Machamp@??? **MACHA
    No Guard
    Hasty
    -Cross Chop
    -Dynamic Punch
    -Stone Edge
    -Earthquake

    Blastoise@Leftovers **Help me think of a cool nickname for this one plz!
    Quiet
    -Haze
    -Ice Beam
    -Surf
    -Rapid Spin

    Scizor@(don't know) **Fiskars
    Timid?
    -Baton Pass
    -Swords Dance
    -Iron Defense/Agility
    -Iron Head/X-Scissor/Agility

    Blissey@Leftovers **Dr. Blissey
    Impish
    -Heal Bell
    -Ice Beam
    -Softboiled
    -Thunderwave
     
    You can never go wrong with Porygon-Z.

    Porygon-Z @ Life Orb / Lum Berry
    Ability: Adaptability
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Dark Pulse / Nasty Plot
    - Tri Attack
    - Ice Beam
    - Thunderbolt
    That's attack maneuver one, which is all-out attacking. My preferred choice.

    Here's a more risky option:

    Porygon-Z @ Salac Berry
    Ability: Adaptability
    EVs: 128 HP / 216 Spd / 164 SAtk
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Nasty Plot
    - Tri Attack
    - Ice Beam
    - Thunderbolt
    I'd probably go a little more on the HP or some Defense EVs, but that should at least let you live with enough HP to Salac after a Nasty Plot for a full destruction.
     
    Hey, do you really need Thunderbolt on Porygon? I can see it being useful for taking out Gyarados, but outside that, there's not much need for it. A 2x supereffective THunderbolt or Ice Beam only does a small bit more than a STABed + Adapted Tri-Attack. Ice Beam, I can understand, as that's for taking out the likes of Garchomp and Salamence. And Dark Pulse is useful to have, simply for the Ghosts who are immune to Tri-Attack. Thunderbolt, however, just doesn't really seem all that necessary. Why is it never the one to be replaced with Nasty Plot?
     
    Gengar?@ wide lens
    modest/timid nature
    levitate
    evs: speed 252, sp. atk 252, Hp 6

    moves:
    focus blast
    hypnosis
    thunderbolt/energy ball
    shadow ball
     
    evilcheese said:
    Gengar?@ wide lens
    modest/timid nature
    levitate
    evs: speed 252, sp. atk 252, Hp 6

    moves:
    focus blast
    hypnosis
    thunderbolt/energy ball
    shadow ball
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    Yes, but timid and thunderbolt over energy ball.
     
    wow this is the first time you agreed with me lolXD
     
    Well you were right...

    And yeah, I'd say Tbolt is pretty good on pory Z...that's just me though.
     
    airconditioning said:
    Hey, do you really need Thunderbolt on Porygon? I can see it being useful for taking out Gyarados, but outside that, there's not much need for it. A 2x supereffective THunderbolt or Ice Beam only does a small bit more than a STABed + Adapted Tri-Attack. Ice Beam, I can understand, as that's for taking out the likes of Garchomp and Salamence. And Dark Pulse is useful to have, simply for the Ghosts who are immune to Tri-Attack. Thunderbolt, however, just doesn't really seem all that necessary. Why is it never the one to be replaced with Nasty Plot?
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    10 measley power makes one huge difference.

    Also, will a NVE Tri Attack damage Empoleon? Or perhaps it might hurt Skarmory? No wait, I say we try to hit Drifblim with it? OH YES EXSTENSIVE DAMAGE.

    PoryZ with no Thunderbolt makes anything easy to set up on it, like let's say, GYARADOS...

    You see, we replace Dark Pulse because a SE hit on that doesn't get more than Tri Attack. It gets LESS.
     
    marksman7328 said:
    i like the porygon idea except that i dont have one :(

    gengar sounds cool too, but how do u keep it from getting rocked?
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    well pray that he is faster than the other pokemon
     
    A fast special sweeper? I guess you can't go wrong with:

    Starmie @ Choice Specs
    Trait: Natural Cure
    EV: 252 Speed/ 252 SpAtt / 6 HP
    Nature: Timid
    Surf/Hydro Pump
    Ice Beam
    Thunderbolt
    Rapid Spin/Grass Knot

    Pretty standard this. Rapid Spin is for getting rid of Spikes/Stealth Rock, and Grass Knot for hurting stuff like Swampert.
     
    Why has everyone suddenly missed the first post

    marksman7328 said:
    Lucario@Expert Belt/Life Orb
    Ability: Steadfast
    EVs: 252 Speed / 252 SAtk /6 HP
    Nature: Modest/Timid
    -Dark Pulse
    -Aura Sphere
    -Dragon Pulse
    -Agility
    Thanks.
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    Psychic is hopeless without STAB, use prediction to get a free Agility in, then sweep to your hearts content
     
    marksman7328 said:
    Again, I am new, so please share and explain your ideas for a different special sweeper or ways to improve this one.

    Thanks.
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    Yeah, I read it quite clearly thanks. Besides, I don't know Lucario well enough yet.
     
    Though it might sound a bit bizarre considering Starmie's high Speed, Modest and Choice Scarf work well on Starmie as well. Psychic is a nice choice with Choice Scarf (no pun intended) because you'll be able to outspeed Choice Scarf Heracross and make it suffer. Choice Scarfers in general are Starmie's biggest enemies, so why not counter them by giving Starmie a Choice Scarf as well? With Choice Scarf, Starmie can safely switch in on a Salamence's Dragon Dance and stay in against a Choice Scarf Garchomp and go for the OHKO with Ice Beam. So far Choice Scarf has never really hindered my Starmie so you might want to try it out.
     
    Hhm, never thought of using Starmie as an anti-Scarfer. With more Pokemon using a CS to overcome it's average speed and push it into a useable range (Heracross, Kingler, etc), Starmie hits hard enough to dent most of them back with that high SpAtt and Modest nature.
     
    Thought I'd add to the list with a couple of my own special sweepers

    Kingdra@Choice Specs
    Swift Swim
    Modest Nature
    EVs: 252 Sp Atk, 252 HP, 6 Spd
    -Surf
    -Ice Beam
    -Draco Meteor
    -Dragon Pulse/Signal Beam/Hidden Power

    A great sweeper, especially during times of heavy rain...

    Houndoom@Focus Sash
    Timid Nature
    EVs: 252 Sp Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP
    -Nasty Plot
    -Flamethrower
    -Dark Pulse
    -Hidden Power Ground/Fight

    Ahh Houndoom <3... With Hidden Power Ground, the only thing that can wall it is Poliwrath, but Hidden Power Fighting has it's advantages over Tyranitar and Weavile (Ttar would also cause major problems due to Sandstream ripping focus sash apart)
     
    Couple more suggestions:

    Porygon-Z @ Choice Specs
    Trait: Adaptability
    EV: 252 SpAtt / 252 Speed / 6 HP
    Nature: Timid
    Tri-Attack
    Thunderbolt
    Ice Beam
    Dark Pulse/Grass Knot

    SpecsGon. Hurts stuff lots.

    Gardevior @ Choice Scarf
    Trait: Trace
    EV: 252 SpAtt / 252 Speed / 6 HP
    Nature: Modest
    Psychic
    Shadow Ball
    Hypnosis/Energy Ball/Grass Knot
    Focus Blast

    Gardy can now overcome her slower speed with CScarf and give Zam some competition with it's meatier defences.
     
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