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Lumine

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    Yea I really do especially with EVs and movesets
    Please dont change natures or try to add egg moves coz some of them are shiny :3

    Umbreon @ Leftovers
    Bold
    EV: 252 HP / 230 Sp.Def / 28 Def
    -Mean Look
    -Baton Pass
    -Curse
    -Wish
    Sort of done..

    Glaceon @ ?
    Modest
    EV: 252 SP ATT/ ?
    -Hail
    -Blizzard
    -?
    -?
    I need more help here

    Aerodactyl @ Choice Band
    Jolly
    EV: 252 ATT / 252 SPD
    -Stone Edge
    -EQ
    -Crunch
    -Ice Fang
    Done Thanks Shirosaki


    Vaporeon @ Leftovers
    Modest
    EV: 170 HP / 252 Def / 86 Sp.Atk
    - Ice Beam
    - Baton Pass
    - Surf
    - Acid Armor
    Done Thanks Shirosaki




    I really appreciate those who contributes
     
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    Umbreon @ Leftovers
    Bold
    EV: 252 HP / 230 Sp.Def / 28 Def
    - Baton Pass
    - Mean Look
    - Wish
    - Yawn / Toxic


    Glaceon @ Choice Scarf / Choice Specs
    Modest
    EV: 252 HP / 252 Sp.Atk / 6 Spd
    - Shadow Ball
    - Blizzard
    - Hidden Power Fighting
    - Sleep Talk

    Sleep Talk is in there to make Glaceon your sleep absorber, which is quite useful when there's Hypnosis / Sleep Powder users.

    Aerodactyl @ Choice Band
    Jolly
    EV: 252 ATT / 252 SPD / 6 HP
    - Stone Edge
    - EQ
    - Crunch
    - Fire Fang / Ice Fang

    Vaporeon @ Leftovers
    Modest
    EV: 170 HP / 252 Def / 86 Sp.Atk
    - Ice Beam
    - Baton Pass
    - Surf
    - Acid Armor / Substitute

    You don't know what to use for the last two options?
     
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    This is only a fun team :), can you recommend me sets without baton pass?
     
    This is only a fun team :), can you recommend me sets without baton pass?

    Umbreon is useless without Baton Pass. Really, the eeveelutions are mostly baton passers. They can fulfill other roles, but not as well. I suggest using them as supporters (they all learn wish...) or BPers, or I'd get rid of them honestly. If you do wanna use the BPer sets, those sets above are really good, I'd use those.
     
    Toxic-trapping fell way behind since a good trainer can predict Toxic-trap Umbreon and switch into a pokemon like Heracross or Milotic and Toxic them instead. Toxic Trap = Bad
     
    I recommend curse over toxic/confuse ray/yawn on umbreon.
     
    So what would be the build for umbreon?
     
    If by "build" you mean EV spread, try 252 HP/252 Defense/6 Special D. You can balance those out more, but max out the HP. Um, for the moveset, use BP, Mean look, curse, and wish.
     
    Buy why would you need EV in DEF? Its already got an advantage from its nature, and I dont still understand why the Wish on Umbreon?
     
    Sigh...wish you can use one turn, and then switch out the next. The pokemon that switches in is then healed, so wish can heal your entire team. Curse is for physical tanks, or physical sweepers that hold white herb. Now the foe is trapped and can only watch as you obliterate them. Its special defense is so solid that you might as well put the EVs in defense. I said you could balance them out more...
     
    Alright thanks Im gonna try that, but Its gonna be a pain cause I'll have to rebreed eevee just to get wish now
     
    Meh, it may be a pain, but it is woth it. Check out my thread about umbreon and hypno. As you can see, I'll be going through the same thing you are. At least it's not HP breeding. Wish is great for healing walls that don't have rest. Well, good luck breeding.
     
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