New pokemon team, First timer

griever988

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    Hey guys this is my first time making a team so go easy on me :P Well i would like some advice on this team and ALL comments are certainly welcome. I would like to keep it as it is but if you think its better to change some thing's I'm up for it, except the ninetales maybe I like it heh. And if you have any suggestions for a 6th pokemon that would also be helpful

    Raichu@Focus sash
    ev's HP 6/ sp.atk 252/ spd 252
    Timid
    grass knot
    Hidden power ice
    thunderbolt
    nasty plot

    Ninetales@leftovers
    Timid
    ev's HP 6/ sp.atk 252/ spd 252
    energy ball
    hypnosis
    flame thrower
    extrasensory

    heracross@choice scarf
    ev's HP 6/ atk 252/ spd 252
    adamant
    Megahorn
    Stone Edge
    Close combat
    pursuit

    Vaporeon@leftovers
    Bold
    ev's hp 188/ Def 252/ sp.Def 68
    Surf
    Ice beam
    Wish
    Protect

    Venusaur@leftovers
    Calm
    Ev's HP 252/ Def 98 /sp.def 200
    Leech Seed
    Sleep Powder
    Hidden power Fire
    Energy ball

    Steelix@leftovers
    Relaxed
    EV's HP 252/ atk 16/ Def 184/ sp.def 58
    Roar
    Rest
    Gyro Ball
    Earthquake

    Updated Ev's on heracross, vaporeon and venusaur
    Updated Vaporeons moveset
    Added Steelix and moveset
     
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    I see two weaknesses of the bat.

    You have no walls. A Thunderpunching Infernape runs through this team. As will Heracross.

    The same goes for SP.Walls. Any boltbeamer (Thunderbolt/IceBeam) will also make short work of this team, as they also have moves you must look out for. Togekiss can also hurt.

    Basically, you need some defense.
     
    Yeah, I figured I needed a wall but I'm not too sure which, although forretress doesnt really appeal to me much. I had a battle earlier and an alakzam completely took out four of my pokes so I dont know if the movesets are good or what should I add?
     
    Phy.Wall
    Bronzong, Leafeon, Forry, Dusknoir, Donphan, Skarmory, Steelix

    Sp.Walls
    Grumpig, Blissey, Snorlax, Bronzong, Dusknoir, Regice, Hypno, etc


    Your choice.
     
    Hmm...well for a physical wall I guess I'll go with a steelix and for a special wall..what about a togekiss?
     
    griever988 said:
    Hey guys this is my first time making a team so go easy on me :P Well i would like some advice on this team and ALL comments are certainly welcome. I would like to keep it as it is but if you think its better to change some thing's I'm up for it, except the ninetales maybe I like it heh. And if you have any suggestions for a 6th pokemon that would also be helpful

    Raichu@Focus sash
    ev's HP 6/ sp.atk 252/ spd 252
    Timid
    grass knot
    Hidden power ice
    thunderbolt
    nasty plot

    I suppose

    Ninetales@leftovers
    Timid
    ev's HP 6/ sp.atk 252/ spd 252
    energy ball
    hypnosis
    flame thrower
    extrasensory

    Have no Idea on Ninetails sorry.

    heracross@choice scarf
    ev's HP 6/ atk 252/ spd 252
    Adamant
    Megahorn
    Stone Edge
    Close combat
    Aerial Ace

    That Pwease


    Vaporeon@leftovers
    Bold
    252 Def, 188 HP, 68 Sp. Atk
    Surf
    Ice beam / Baton Pass
    Wish / Baton Pass
    Substitute

    Can Pass 121 HP subs with 464 HP, very nice. Baton Pass off a Wish if you like, or replace with sub, so you can keep Ice Beam for those nasty dragons that are so common these days.

    Venusaur@leftovers
    Calm
    Ev's HP 180/ Def 200/ sp.atk 32/ sp.def 98
    Leech Seed
    Sleep Powder H
    idden power Fire
    Energy ball

    Venusaur@Leftovers
    Bold / Calm
    252 HP, 252 Sp. Def, 6 Spd

    Sleep Powder
    Leech Seed
    Grass Knot / Energy Ball / Stun Spore / HP Fire
    Grass Knot / Energy Ball / Stun Spore / HP Fire

    Venusaur needs all the Sp. Def it can get, it isn't going to hit much hard anyway, but will still do enough without and EV's. Do not run Grass Knot and Energy Ball, one or the other, but I suggest HP Fire and Energy Ball. Pick your Poison, Stun Spore for double Status, so you can get your opponent on the switch.
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    Regards,

    ~Tortured_Soul
     
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    OH MY GOD!

    Vaporeon can pass Subs with 1121 HP! I MUST GET ONE :laugh:

    And where do you see Grass Knot & Energy Ball? He HAD HP Fire.

    You should update this, Griever.
     
    I'm still not sure if I should replace pursuit with an aerial ace on heracross, isnt pursuit an effective move for it?
     
    BWAAAAAA! 1121 SUBS!!!!

    You nearly gave him the same set!

    Venasaur can stand to lose less SP.DEF, as he can take a physical hit or two.

    Update the thread with your changes.

    EDIT:No, keep Pursuit, as when he comes, the opponent will most likely switch.
     
    Togekiss is a Para-Flincher. It has ok Sp. def, but it isn't the best, the only reason it is used is because Air Slash gives a 60% Flinch rate. I would suggest the standard Blissey or Cresselia, or go with Anti and use Articuno, although I don't really like it... *Hides behind a rock

    Regards,

    ~T_S
     
    I suppose I'll go for a steelix, I also had a moveset for it that includes roar, rest, gyro ball, and EQ

    *added steelix and moveset
     
    Tortured_Soul said:
    Togekiss is a Para-Flincher. It has ok Sp. def, but it isn't the best, the only reason it is used is because Air Slash gives a 60% Flinch rate. I would suggest the standard Blissey or Cresselia, or go with Anti and use Articuno, although I don't really like it... *Hides behind a rock

    Regards,

    ~T_S
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    Base Sp.DEF of 115 is much more than ok. Along with base 85 HP.

    If you want Weezing, Soul is right. He must be your physical wall.
     
    sims796 said:
    Base Sp.DEF of 115 is much more than ok. Along with base 85 HP.

    If you want Weezing, Soul is right. He must be your physical wall.
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    I ment ok in comparison to Cresselia and Blissey etc. Togekiss is fine as a Special Wall, but those other two do a better job defensively, while Togekiss is sort of mixed, as in it Paralyzes, then tries to make you flinch, relies more on luck really.

    ~T_S
     
    I know this is also probably a stupid question but couldnt vaporeon also be a special wall? and I feel as though I should take out raichu or ninetales..

    sims796 said:
    Venasaur can stand to lose less SP.DEF, as he can take a physical hit or two.

    What do you mean venusaur can stand to lose less SP.DEF??? do you mean I should increase his defense?
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