OU Rain Dance RMT

[4th Gen Matt]

The Team

@ Damp Rock
Ability: Pressure
Nature: Timid
252 HP / 252 Spe / 4 SpA
Rain Dance
Taunt
Thunder
Stealth Rock

@ Mystic Water
Ability: Swift Swim
Nature: Modest
120 HP / 252 SpA / 136 Spe
Draco Meteor
Surf
Ice Beam
Hidden Power Electric

@ Damp Rock
Ability: Torrent
Nature: Impish
252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
Earthquake
Avalanche
Waterfall
Rain Dance

@ Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
Nature: Adamant
72 HP / 252 Atk / 184 Spe
Dragon Dance
Waterfall
Earthquake
Ice Fang

@ Damp Rock
Ability: Swift Swim
Nature: Calm
252 HP / 76 SpA / 180 SpD
Leech Seed
Rain Dance
Surf
Ice Beam

@ Choice Band
Ability: Guts
Nature: Adamant
104 HP / 252 Atk / 154 Spe
Close Combat
Megahorn
Stone Edge
Night Slash
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First of all, WHY is Infernape in a Rain Dance team. Saying it's for late game isn't an excuse, since RD teams are SUPPOSED to last an entire match. Replace him, then we can talk about other weaks (Hitmonlee still sucks, since it's entirely outclasses by Heracross)

 

[Glitter Stain]

Consider Kristy Floatzel. I just like it better in all circumstances, and you might want a BPer for your team.

And, why in the hell is everyone copying me by using the EXACT same Hitmonlee I use in OU? D8

 

[4th Gen Matt]

First of all, WHY is Infernape in a Rain Dance team. Saying it's for late game isn't an excuse, since RD teams are SUPPOSED to last an entire match. Replace him, then we can talk about other weaks (Hitmonlee still sucks, since it's entirely outclasses by Heracross)

Rain Dance teams rarely last the entire game. What am I to do if all my rain dancers get KO'd? Then the team would be a bunch of worthless water Pokemon. You need sweepers for late-game. Period.

Secondly, Heracross is fugly and an overused, and overrated pile of crap. I have no love for that thing. I used it on a team once and Hitmonlee did a lot more then it ever did.

Considering the Kristy Floatzel. I really do not like Baton Passers. I can't use them right so I would prefer to keep him a sweeper.

That Hitmonlee is pretty much the standard.

 

[.]

Rain Dance teams rarely last the entire game. What am I to do if all my rain dancers get KO'd? Then the team would be a bunch of worthless water Pokemon. You need sweepers for late-game. Period.

If you lose 3 rain dancers it's obvious this team is not good and needs some serious work syngery wise.

Secondly, Heracross is fugly and an overused, and overrated pile of crap. I have no love for that thing. I used it on a team once and Hitmonlee did a lot more then it never did.

What a fantastic argument.

 

[4th Gen Matt]

If you lose 3 rain dancers it's obvious this team is not good and needs some serious work syngery wise.



What a fantastic argument.

I don't mean to sound mean but I just hate Heracross. Almost everyone uses one, it is so annoying.

Can you please give me some advice without changing the pokemon, and if you really think I should change the pokemon, please tell me who to switch them with and a good moveset for that pokemon.

P.S. I love your sig. Steve Irwin's death was tragic, but that thing just makes me laugh my arse off.

 

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I don't mean to sound mean but I just hate Heracross. Almost everyone uses one, it is so annoying.

I know, standards are usually boring, however, Choice Band Heracross is incredibly fun to use, and offers a status absorber for this team. Ounce for ounce, it does a much better job than Hitmonlee.

Can you please give me some advice without changing the pokemon, and if you really think I should change the pokemon, please tell me who to switch them with and a good moveset for that pokemon.

You only have 2 people who benefit from Rain Dance. I suggest removing Infernape for Gyarados, DD-Dos to be specific. Floatzel is not a reliable Rain Dance. I'd replace him with Ludicolo, who can Leech Seed and basically make a reliable special sponge.

 

[4th Gen Matt]

I know, standards are usually boring, however, Choice Band Heracross is incredibly fun to use, and offers a status absorber for this team. Ounce for ounce, it does a much better job than Hitmonlee.



You only have 2 people who benefit from Rain Dance. I suggest removing Infernape for Gyarados, DD-Dos to be specific. Floatzel is not a reliable Rain Dance. I'd replace him with Ludicolo, who can Leech Seed and basically make a reliable special sponge.

Alright, I will look into those. But right now, it is dinner time.

Plus, I am sorry if I sounded rude. My mistake.

 

[.]

You didn't sound rude at all, and I highly suggest CB Hera:

Heracross @ Choice Band
Adamant
104 HP/252 Att/154 Spe
Close Combat
Megahorn
Stone Edge
Pursuit/Facade

 

[4th Gen Matt]

You didn't sound rude at all, and I highly suggest CB Hera:

Heracross @ Choice Band
Adamant
104 HP/252 Att/154 Spe
Close Combat
Megahorn
Stone Edge
Pursuit/Facade

I already have Deoxys-S to set up SR. Should I go with Night Slash instead?

So lets see. Ludicolo over Floatzel, Gyarados over Infernape, and Heracross over Hitmonlee, correct? That still only leaves me with one Pokemon which is electric-weak, which is what I was aiming for.

So I should have the DD Gyarados, and the CB Heracross. Have a suggestion for a good Ludicolo?

 

[Lalapizzame]

I already have Deoxys-S to set up SR. Should I go with Night Slash instead?

So lets see. Ludicolo over Floatzel, Gyarados over Infernape, and Heracross over Hitmonlee, correct? That still only leaves me with one Pokemon which is electric-weak, which is what I was aiming for.

So I should have the DD Gyarados, and the CB Heracross. Have a suggestion for a good Ludicolo?

Ludicolo @ Damp Rock / Leftovers
Modest
152 HP / 252 SAtk / 104 Spe
Surf
Ice Beam
Rain Dance
Grass Knot

It's possible to use Hydro Pump if you want more power.

 

[4th Gen Matt]

Ludicolo @ Damp Rock / Leftovers
Modest
152 HP / 252 SAtk / 104 Spe
Surf
Ice Beam
Rain Dance
Grass Knot

It's possible to use Hydro Pump if you want more power.

Thanks for the set. I think I will go with Surf. I prefer reliability to power.

Rain Dish or Swift Swim on Ludicolo?

 

[Skip Shot]

Well, since this Ludicolo isn't meant for tanking, I would opt for Swift Swim to kill things earlier.

 

[4th Gen Matt]

I modded that set a bit. It is a special wall/rain dancer so I went with Rain Dish for a way to heal.

I just updated the entire team. Post your thoughts on this new one.

 

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No, never use Rain Dish. Swift Swim always outclasses it.

 

[4th Gen Matt]

No, never use Rain Dance. Swift Swim always outclasses it.

I assume you mean Rain Dish. Seeing as Rain Dance is a move and Swift Swim is an ability.

Alright, I changed it to Swift Swim. How does the rest of the team look now?

 

[.]

Yeah, I meant Rain Dish D:

But really, Swift Swim lets Ludicolo actually make a decent switch into a Salamence using something like Flamethrower (won't OHKO) and then scare it away with Ice Beam. It also laughs at Starmie, 4x resisting its STAB.

 

[4th Gen Matt]

Yeah, I meant Rain Dish D:

But really, Swift Swim lets Ludicolo actually make a decent switch into a Salamence using something like Flamethrower (won't OHKO) and then scare it away with Ice Beam. It also laughs at Starmie, 4x resisting its STAB.

Is there such thing as 4x resistance?

I thought that that would be 0x damage taken, right?

EDIT: My mistake, 4x resistance is equivalent to 0.25% damage taken.

Wow, Ludicolo owns Starmie.

Anyways, I made the team on Shoddy. Lets test this bad boy out.

EDIT: Team runs pretty well. I am currently 5-3. Only problem with the team is Swampert. Sure he is my physical wall but he always seems to get 2HKO'd. The most I ever get out of him is a Rain Dance. Plus, I think I need another sweeper. Any suggestions?