Our World Today: Better or Worse?

[Sheruda Kachinuki]

> Pollution, rising crime rates, inflation, overpricing, and even the destruction of nature---
are these factors prove that our world, IS NOT THE WAY IT SEEMS TO BE?

>> Most news and newspaper reports crime and negative factors normally. In which, we may ask ourselves ''WHY?"

>>> As the way I see it, some of the Biblical prophesies are now getting fulfilled.
(Like Mat. 24:7)

>>>> So as for you, the title says it all. Post according to your heart, and speak what's in your your mind.

THANK YOU.

 

[.emerald]

*another great forum dude^_^*

In my opinion, Man will soon get extinct.
Cause' of our greed & carelessness.
No more Earth...^_^"!

 

[El Gofre]

I'm sorry, but if you look strictly at the negative things that have occured then it's going to look like man has screwed over. Man has also eradicated diseases and illnesses, mastered things like flight allowing for international aid, I could go on all day. Man has accomplished just as much as it has ruined, if not more so.

And just a quick thought, but surely if it's a biblical prophecy then doesnt that mean it was self-fulfilling and we didnt have a choice in the matter anyway?

 

[popsicles.]

I'm sorry, but if you look strictly at the negative things that have occured then it's going to look like man has screwed over. Man has also eradicated diseases and illnesses, mastered things like flight allowing for international aid, I could go on all day. Man has accomplished just as much as it has ruined, if not more so.

I agree with Gofre on that one.
It's because of the media. All the bad things are pointed out heavily on the news and in newpapers, but there are some good things too.
But, since they are not 'spectacular' enough, those good things barely make the news.

And I don't believe in bible prophesies, I'm sorry :x

 

[Wulf]

I heard the 1950s were the best years...

I personally hate how people are these days, and can't wait for Master Giygas to destroy the world.

 

[Sheruda Kachinuki]

I really can't imagine how our world goes... like this.
Anyways, don't lose hope.

 

[El Gofre]

I really can't imagine how our world goes... like this.
Anyways, don't lose hope.

Did you just completely ignore Popsongs and I? There is just as much good and happiness in the world as there is bad. As popsongs rightly said, the media present the world in a far more negative tone- Nobody wants to read about the happy things, it's the sad and upsetting ones that interest us. There has never been a time of complete and utter peace and happiness, there never will be. Society today is as stable and prosperous as it has ever been. To use your original examples,:

Pollution- More people create more pollution. Its not good, but it needs to happen. Plus literally billions of pounds/dollars ect are being spent on reducing pollution. It shows that we are conciously trying to clear up after ourselves.

Inflation and overpricing- It has always happened. It's the way of the economic world. For want of a better example, my dad tell's me how little money he used to earn when compared to me, and his father says the same to him. Value increases with time, it's not something that can be stopped.

Destruction of nature- While some is genuinely regrettable such as acid erosion, much is necersarry. More people need more housing and fuel, which in some cases can only be gotten by removing trees to create more land.

Crime- The quantity of crime you see in the news shows that law enforcement groups are actively aware of it and striving to rectify it and prevent further incedences. Each piece you see is an example of how they are doing their jobs- I for one can find it reassuring.

Negative things in the papers- As said, they are just generally more interesting. When was the last time you stopped and read nice happy story, Eg "A fireman saves a kitten"? No, you skip to the ones where there are explosions, stabbings ect. Because they're generally more exciting. It's just human nature.

Also, you failed to acknowledge my point about biblical prophecies- Surely if it's an event that has already been predicted by god, it is predetermined and therefore not of humanity's fault anyway?

Also I looked up Matthew 24:7, and the prophecies of which you speak are very ambiguous and can apply to any era of history you care to name.

For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.

War- There has not been a period of more than 20 years in modern history where peace has been worldwide- It's human nature to want more than we have.
Famine and pestilences- Again, these have occured throughout history. If anything they are less prevelant today. Granted, the strife surrounding third world countries is a major issue but when compared to times prior to the invention of immunisation the world is a much healthier place.
Earthquakes- That's not even a prophecy. Tectonic plates rub together, causing friction and earthquakes. Thats just science.

In conclusion, I do not believe that you have looked at the bigger picture and just talked about what you have seen in the media. Because there are extremely distressing things that the media chooses to ignore, for example the plight of Darfur. Also, I do not believe that religious references have anything to do with this topic.

Try checking out some of the broader sources of information such as the CNN website, where more stories are adressed and you can get a better perspective than the tabloids can deliver.

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[Amoeba]

I think it varies too much. Some parts of the world are far better for humans than they used to be - look at medical care, financial aid, police protection, etc. While we all complain about these things, they used to be far worse (in some cases even nonexistant) in the past.

Some parts of the world, of course, are worse off than they used to be, such as parts of the world that are currently in a state of war, where they previously were at peace. Or where deserts are spreading on to land that was once fertile. But overall for humans, we live luxurious lives.

For most wildlife, the world has become a more difficult place to live in (except for cocroaches, gulls, pigeons, rats, etc), simply because of pollution and urbanisation of once wild land, and human greed.

However, while we are in a time where science is advancing, cures for diseases are being developed, and where many citizens of developed countries are living lives of relative luxury, I think this is merely a calm before the storm. Unless our population levels out, I can imagine life becoming more difficult.

Because many of us are protected by society, we have a large growing varied gene pool. Genes which would be disadvantageous without medical attention are being spread amongst the population. I think we will reach a point where we will be so reliant uppon our society that the slightest exposure, disaster, population pressures, etc that will expose our weaknesses will cause our population to plummit.

It won't necessarily be hardship, but it will seem like it due to our reliance uppon the society that cushions us.

 

[Legobricks]

I'm sorry, but if you look strictly at the negative things that have occured then it's going to look like man has screwed over. Man has also eradicated diseases and illnesses, mastered things like flight allowing for international aid, I could go on all day. Man has accomplished just as much as it has ruined, if not more so.

That reminds me of the quote "you can't say civilisation don't advance, 'cause in every war they kill you a new way".


It seems as though the Great Depression wants to repeat itself. Even the cost of wheat (thus bread and other such products) is going up.
As for the wars going on at present, well, killing one another is just something we've always done.

Um, what else... we need more ice-cream men, that's for sure. :o

 

[Comic Tragedy]

Are world is going through many changes right now..... some good...... and some very, offsetting, and bad.

One great thing that has happened to us in just the last 50 years, is the extreme boost in the development of our knowledge in science. 50 years ago a tv was a privelage to have, now adays everyone has a little animated box to plop in front of. We have had improvements in medical science, new lifesaving practices are being developed every day.......

What is really annoying though is although we have had all of these improvements in science to boost our lives.... We have used science in a way that will only benifit us here and now. Sadly very, very few people are seriously considering thinking about the future. And now as finally people are starting to realize we are in a fuel epidemic, it might be too late.

So, there is good, and there is bad in my opinion....... but hey thats life!

 

[ErickaVolt]

It is worse. Especially the fuel crisis and war between Georgia-Russian which started yesterday. 1400 lives were lost. :(

 

[.emerald]

Not just that, Pollution, Global Warming & increase of Prices!

 

[LipstickTraces]

Crime going up is actually an illusion - least it is here in England. Statistics proove that even though we believe the outside world is more dangerous than before, street crime has fallen. Also burgularies and such have been decreased. But because we are plagued so much by the media highlighting all these nasty stories about youths carrying weapons, we are beginning to believe that it is much worse when in actual fact it isnt. It just seems that way. The media is to blame for a lot of things like this. And back in the days when Television and Radio and Newspapers didn't exist, we werent being told of such things in the same way. Stories would be told instead, and not much 'news' about things like a polar bear killing a traveller from England or whatever would not reach their hometown via sattellite signals... You get the idea.

 

[El Gofre]

Crime going up is actually an illusion - least it is here in England. Statistics proove that even though we believe the outside world is more dangerous than before, street crime has fallen. Also burgularies and such have been decreased. But because we are plagued so much by the media highlighting all these nasty stories about youths carrying weapons, we are beginning to believe that it is much worse when in actual fact it isnt. It just seems that way. The media is to blame for a lot of things like this. And back in the days when Television and Radio and Newspapers didn't exist, we werent being told of such things in the same way. Stories would be told instead, and not much 'news' about things like a polar bear killing a traveller from England or whatever would not reach their hometown via sattellite signals... You get the idea.

This is what I was getting at in my previous post, although Crocadilius has put it much more eloquently.

we need more ice-cream men, that's for sure. :o

Seconded =]

 

[-HeaveN-]

This is the way world goes around on it's axis and orbit.
You can't really think that Global Warming and pollution will stop. Do ye?

Inflation of Prices- Credit to the wars and our worthy politicians.
About the others, Man's developing himself further more than he is. You can't blame him for his curiosity. Gofre has a strong theory for this and the others. I don't think I'll add up more.

There are always negative effects and consequences plus influences to every development. You cannot deny this fact.
And to what I don't like: Corruption. This is what I hate the most. C'mon! Can't the people work fairly?

If you think this is the worst then what would you say about WW3? It'll happen.

 

[Sheruda Kachinuki]

Even, I think, our world goes so... uh, anyways, as they say, prayers will save you.

 

[sims796]

Great. Another freakin' hippie topic.

As Gofre said, it's sad what's happening to our polar bears, but seriously, "all humanity" isn't evil, & doomed to destroy itself. We have done plenty, plenty, plenty of good. Stop looking at one side of the spectrum. Sounds like a group of whiny emos to me.

Also, to all that keeps saying "humanity will soon go extinct", shut up. Seriously, ya sound like you don't wanna be human, or, more importantly, sounds like you feel yourself on a higher level. Not that you do, but that's how it sounds like.

 

[El Gofre]

Even, I think, our world goes so... uh, anyways, as they say, prayers will save you.

I find it ironic how the only person who has failed to contribute to this topic is infact the OP. Seriously, what do your pestimistic "catchphrases" have to offer to discussion? No offence intended, but I entered this thread hoping for some cogent debate with you and I ended up being met with what sounds to be a resignation to the apocolypse.

 

[sims796]

If people wants to believe the apocolyse as the end of the world, let them, Gofre. I awlways stand for religious tolerance more than acceptance. Don't gotta accept a thing, but you do gotta put up with it.

That said, I thought this was about MAN'S affect on the end of the world, so an apocolyse is not needed in this discussion. However, after reading the first post, I was wrong.

In short,

WE'RE ALL GONNA DIEEEEEEEEE!!!!!

Couldn't resist.

 

[Megera]

Also, Gofre, the OP started the topic off negatively, so anyone who read the title and thought HM I DON'T KNOW IF THE WORLD IS BETTER OR WORSE would read their drivel and say YEAH THE WORLD SUCKS, DEATH TO THE INFIDELS. Right then should've been your first clue to this not being a debate.