(P)hail stall. [NU]

[Barney.]

Hail.
Stall.
NU.
Me.
Phail.​

At a glance
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In Depth

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Snover @ Leftovers
Timid
Snow Warning
252SpA/252Spe/6HP

Substitute
Leech Seed
Grass Knot
Blizzard

He's there to set up hail.

But, he can also do well subseeding and can do quite well attacking with his two STAB moves.

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Walrien @ Leftovers
Bold
Ice Body
220HP/240Def/50Spe

Toxic
Substitute
Protect
Surf

A very awesome toxic stall for NU even without hail.

But with hail he becomes a monster..He becomes very hard to budge and is a great defensive wall.

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Quagsire @ Leftovers
Impish
Water Absorb
252HP/96Atk/160Def

Protect
Yawn
Earthquake
Stone Edge

A very broken NU IMO.

I seriously don't understand how quagsire made it's way to NU...It can serve as an awesome defensive wall in nearly all tiers..never mind NU.

He can also cause some damage with the great combo of EQ and SE.

Here for more defensive support.

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Cloyster @ Leftovers
Relaxed
Shell Armor
252HP/252SpD/6SpA

Spikes / Toxic Spikes [Need help on this one]
Surf
Rapid Spin
Explosion

Here for Spikes support and Rapid Spin support..But also walls some defensive threats.

Spikes as much as possible, Rapid spin if needed, Explode when done.

A simple and effective hypothesis.

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Wailord @ Leftovers
Calm
Water Veil
252Def/252SpD/6HP

Water Spout
Ice Beam
Rest
Sleep Talk

Mixed wall and a status absorber.

Wailords broken HP makes it a great mixed wall.

And of course Rest for Status absorbing and healing, And Sleep talk to attack whilst asleep...[/shot]

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Mantine @ Leftovers
Calm
Water Absorb
252HP/252SpD/6Spe

Toxic
Surf
HP Flying
Blizzard

Special wall..

With some attacks.

Very willing to replace mantine as it's not been great so far.

Changes:

None as of yet.


Please help me..This team probably fails.​

 

[Mobile Tsk]

Your Mantine set is disappointing...
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Run something of the following (EVs/nature are really up to you, most spreads work for mantine) [All @leftovers and with water absorb]:

Mirrantine Coat
+HP Flying
+Mirror Coat
+Surf
+Toxic

Mantine can survive just about every Thunderbolt and Charge Beam from non-specs Raichu on down. Mirror Coat it back for excellent damage. HP Flying + Surf is great coverage for Toxidraining. Preferred EVs for this are full HP and SpD, though.

Ulititine
+Haze
+HP Flying / Toxic
+Surf
+Ice Beam / Blizzard (this is a hail team, correct?) / Toxic

Haze can mess up a few things. Mantine can survive quite a few things, so it can get rid of boosts from special boosters (preferably ones without Thunderbolt). You shouldn't run both HP Flying and Ice Beam ideally unless you're worried about Ludicolo. Ice Beam > HP Flying is really preferred. Toxic is pretty necessary for this set to work. You need some Defense investments if you plan on switching this into boosted Physical Attackers. Always max HP.

The standard sets for Mantine kind of suck... Restalking is never good, and that set you have now will never do anything to anyone. The RD set is decent but negates the purpose of your team. So I'd go with one of the above to give Mantine purpose or just drop him altogether.

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Now, what I don't understand... why are half of your Pokemon non-Ice Water-types? They still take damage from Hail, and to be honest, won't help. If you're going to use Pokemon that take damage from Hail anyway, replace some of your mons with Pokemon that can easily OHKO some of the most common threats in UU. It just isn't a good idea to open up your team to Sceptile ruining everyone.

 

[Sebastien Loeb]

The problem of this team is that it deals with a hail team with alone 3 resistant Pokémons to hail, and it totally has many Pokémon with spread in the wrong Evs, and if the team adversary has a Rapid-Spin Blocker you become very weak to Stealth Rock.

 

[The Hero Without a Name]

The problem of this team is that it deals with a hail team with alone 3 resistant Pokémons to hail, and it totally has many Pokémon with spread in the wrong Evs, and if the team adversary has a Rapid-Spin Blocker you become very weak to Stealth Rock.

He doesn't need to lack a Rapid Spinner to have a Stealth Rock-weak team =/

 

[Snip3rFire]

get rid of toxic from walrein and give it roar.

just make sure tentacruel gets toxic spikes over spikes.

You might want to remove toxic from some over pokes aswell