Pokémon Diamond and Pearl: Battle Dimension Earns Double-Digit Gains

[weedle_mchairybug]

Just because you don't like the anime or outgrew it doesn't mean "the writers will mess them up severely somehow."

For the record, He DOES Like the anime. Otherwise, He would hate everything about it, even season 1. Also, he didn't outgrow it. If he did, why is he on here? Just because you feel there's no flaws with the current anime and stubbornly refuse any doesn't mean that we Hate the anime.

With D/P selling 15 million copeis and Platinum breaking sales records, the box office releases in Japan being smash successes, and the good ratings it's getting as posted in the thread, it's safe to say that anybody boycotting Pokemon is not really that much of a concern.

Hey, Tea was also a successful sale in Britain and Global during the 1700's, and the last time I checked, we were quite successful in boycotting that when we boycotted Great Britain during the Revolutionary War (They actually perceived us as a threat because of that, and believe me, We were actually the least of their concerns in regards to Tea [now, if this boycott was somewhere in, oh I don't know, India, since that was the main production center of Tea and British Goods, that would be the worst case scenario of Britain.].).

On that note, anybody actually boycotting Pokemon is pretty much breaking their boycott whenever they visit a fan site. When you boycott something, you don't associate with it at all. And these sites serve to promote (aspects of) the franchise. Visting here is being part of something one s supposedly boycotting.

Ok, here's the REAL definition of "Boycott":

Textbook Definition: Boycott: Protest in the form of a refusal to buy, including attempts to convince others to join.

This is my economics textbook definition of a Boycott. Nowhere does it say that you can't associate it at all, it just says you don't buy anything in regards to it. If it truly encompasses not associating with it at all, it would have stated this in the definition in the textbook as well.

For the record, the textbook in question is "Glencoe ECONOMICS Principles and Practices"

So, those of us aren't breaking the boycott in that sense by posting on Fan sites.

Besides, trying to abstain from all of it isn't a good idea of protest since, if we don't associate it to a certain extent, we won't know if we succeeded or not.

I can't "give up" Facebook by starting a "Let's boycott Facebook" club on Facebook.

Big difference, Facebook is only a website, so you definitely can't do something like that on there. Pokemon, on the other hand, is Video Games, Toys, an Anime, Board Games, TGCs, and Mangas.

They aren't vague. Just becasue you don't know how the Nielsan ratings systems works doesn't invalidate the facts it presents. Not everyone in the US has a Nielsen box, but they're designed based on proportional representation to get pretty precise figures.

Hasn't algebra taught you anything yet? In order for things to be accurate, you HAVE to have exactness. Estimates are only guesses which, while close, are not Exact (exactness implies that it's absolutely, undeniably this, whileas estimates/approximations are for the most part right, but not always set in stone.).

That's Japan. I don't know how they do ratings in Japan. Nielsen ratings are what's used in the United States.

Well, I suggest you try and learn how, because sometimes, you may have to be wrong in order to learn.

And the week after, it's listed. As is the week before. And the week before that. And then it appears again on March 5's article.

Hey, if it's not mentioned in any week aside from this, this WOULD be bad news for the Anime.

If the creators of any franchise listened to the endless whining on Internet Fan sites, they'd never get anything done. You've also yet to tell me how this mythical audience of 18+ would come flocking back to a kids' show if basically the Kanto cast were re-instated.

The mere fact that many of them actually signed petitions even saying that they'll return when Misty returns would be evidence enough that it would bring others back.

EDIT: Another thing, your definition of a Boycott is more in line with the term "Embargo" than a Boycott, as stated in my Economics class. Heck, I asked my Economics teacher and he said that Boycotts only restricted people from buying products from a company/corporation.

 

[randomspot555]

For the record, He DOES Like the anime. Otherwise, He would hate everything about it, even season 1. Also, he didn't outgrow it. If he did, why is he on here? Just because you feel there's no flaws with the current anime and stubbornly refuse any doesn't mean that we Hate the anime.

I've never said there aren't flaws with the current direction. I just don't adamantly hate everything that Pokemon is, like many on this board do (see...well, any topic you post in; Sick of Ash topic etc...)

Hey, Tea was also a successful sale in Britain and Global during the 1700's, and the last time I checked, we were quite successful in boycotting that when we boycotted Great Britain during the Revolutionary War (They actually perceived us as a threat because of that, and believe me, We were actually the least of their concerns in regards to Tea [now, if this boycott was somewhere in, oh I don't know, India, since that was the main production center of Tea and British Goods, that would be the worst case scenario of Britain.].).

Sorry, your Pokemon "boycott" isn't on the same level of a historical event that had a lot more to do about sending a message to Britain about taxes than it did with the product.

Ok, here's the REAL definition of "Boycott":

Textbook Definition: Boycott: Protest in the form of a refusal to buy, including attempts to convince others to join.

This is my economics textbook definition of a Boycott. Nowhere does it say that you can't associate it at all, it just says you don't buy anything in regards to it. If it truly encompasses not associating with it at all, it would have stated this in the definition in the textbook as well.

That's dandy. But textbook definition or not, fan sites serve to promote the franchise. Being on these sites basically makes you part of the same process you're going against.

More power to you, I guess. But it just goes to show that this boycott isn't going as well as you think it is.

Hasn't algebra taught you anything yet? In order for things to be accurate, you HAVE to have exactness. Estimates are only guesses which, while close, are not Exact (exactness implies that it's absolutely, undeniably this, whileas estimates/approximations are for the most part right, but not always set in stone.).

Again, just because you don't understand how using a small sample to represent a large population works doesn't invalidate the method. There is nothing wrong with using 100 people to represent a population of 1,000, as long as the 100 people are proportionally representative of the demographics of the entire population. This is an extremely simplified way of how the Nielsen system works (as well as polling organizations like Rasmussen, any news media, etc...), but there's nothing inherently wrong with it and it doesn't give bad answers.

To actually conduct a poll, or to record or ask every possible household with Cartoon Network to say if they watched Pokemon or not, would cost an extraordinary amount of money and would only give a precise number. But for a fraction of the cost, Nielsen can get a small representational sample of the households that have Comedy Central and ask them, and still be within a small margin of error.

Well, I suggest you try and learn how, because sometimes, you may have to be wrong in order to learn.

I never claimed to know what the ratings system is in Japan or how it works. There's nothing for me to be wrong about. But I'm explaining to now two people how proportional representation works.

Hey, if it's not mentioned in any week aside from this, this WOULD be bad news for the Anime.

It's missing from 3 weeks of the 8 or so I looked at. So yeah, it's not bad news and Pokemon isn't in some downfall dispair due to your boycott. Sorry to break it to you.

The mere fact that many of them actually signed petitions even saying that they'll return when Misty returns would be evidence enough that it would bring others back.

Yeah, I've seen your petitions as well as others like SOVA. They're done in an entirely unscientific sense with no regulation to make sure people sign once or only once, people signing as who they are rather than impersonating others, trolling, etc...

Even if we pretend that all of your signatures are legit, not signed twice, etc..., a few THOUSAND fans are fairly meaningless to a franchise that makes tons of money from dozens of millions of fans around the world.

Sorry, but no one has ever seriously considered petiiononline.com when looking for an accurate representation of a fandom's opinon.

 

[I Laugh at your Misfortune!]

Okay, guys, let's chill out here. This isn't about why D/P is better than Kanto or vice versa or why Misty should or shouldn't return. So let's get back to the topic, okay?

Okay.

 

[Vernikova]

The mere fact that many of them actually signed petitions even saying that they'll return when Misty returns would be evidence enough that it would bring others back.

So those people have N. Boxes and are in the target range of Cartoon Network to even matter to ratings?

 

[randomspot555]

Okay, guys, let's chill out here. This isn't about why D/P is better than Kanto or vice versa or why Misty should or shouldn't return. So let's get back to the topic, okay?

Okay.

Are you a mod? Because it doesn't look like it.