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    Here's the deal: Smarties has brought to my attention the flaws in this thread. After reading what Smarties had to say, I have to agree. And this is my own fault. The discussion moved too fast, decisions were made in a rash manner, and the format was unorganized. So, frankly, we're starting over. This time, we'll give a certain Pokemon a day's worth of attention. You may post what you feel is an effective move set for that particular species and once we have several move sets, they will be discussed and as a group, we will decide what we consider the best move set. With some Pokemon, there won't be a single effective move set. Therefore, we will have links to the Request a Team / Move Set thread where you may ask for an alternative move set from the one listed. And for today, I'd like to start with a Pokemon we had discussed earlier today and I am interested in discussing myself:

    rules:

    1.) Do not request a specific Pokemon to be discussed. PM me and we will discuss your requested species in the near future.

    2.) Refrain from insulting others if their opinions differ from your own. This will result in flaming and more than likely, a warn or a stern disciplining.

    3.) Be creative. Don't just repost move sets from other sites (Smogon, Marrilland, etc.) If you feel this move set is worth mentioning, by all means post it. Anything that adds to the conversation is appreciated.

    4.) Of course, follow all Pokecommunity Rules.

    Current Pokemon for Discussion: Honchkrow

    Finished Pokemon:

    - Hariyama
     
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    Thanks ^_^ the PM idea was the perfect solution. now then...

    Gliscor @ Leftovers
    Trait: Hyper Cutter (I think O_O)
    EVs: 252 HP / 40 Atk / 216 Def
    Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
    - Roost
    - Aerial Ace
    - Earthquake
    - Swords Dance

    My prefered set. I believe it can learn knock off, which would work over SD.
     
    lol Loquacity u locked 90% of the threads here ><:

    Gliscor @ Leftovers
    Trait: Hyper Cutter
    Nature: Impish
    EVs: 252 HP / 172 Attack / 80 Defense
    - Knock Off / Roost / Stone Edge
    - Earthquake
    - Aerial Ace
    - Stealth Rock
     
    Eh, don't you think a physical wall pokemon is going to need more defence than that? I mean, it needs it...
     
    then again, my set abuses SD and often used my subpassing Vappy, so yeah...but it'll need a few more, definately.
     
    Congrats Loquacity! Modded!

    Gliscor should probably have something to counter his ICe weakness though, like maybe Brick Break. I dunno, Im guessing.
     
    I don't think it would be wise to stay in on suck ice types that ruin your day. Subpassing works well with gliscor actually, gives it a free hit to take a beam from starmie or whatever sweeper it may be.

    EDIT: STAB EQ does as much as supereffective BB...
     
    Ermm... no. Screech or any other move that reduces the opponent's stats are fail. Its destroyed by a simple switch.

    Eh, it might be good for starmies who think they can freely switch in and then you can send in your physical sweeper to "Clean up the mess" ;)

    EDIT: And forcing switches is a very valuable thing BTW
     
    The thing is, there is a lot Gliscor can do. He can pass Att or Speed (Swords Dance/Rock Polish), U-Turn any incoming switches, Stealth Rock, be a physical wall. He's pretty fast, and can come in on a fair bit of stuff too.

    Brick Break is kinda useless on Gliscor as there are few Ice types and Ice Beam/Blizzard/HP Ice are all commonly seen on many non-Ice types. In general, water types give him trouble. As also mentioned, he is a great Heracross counter, able to come in on Close Combat/Megahorn/Stone Edge all pretty easily, resisting the first two, and is able to pick him off with Aerial Ace.
     
    Does reducing a Starmie's Defense stat really help though?

    But anyways, back on the point - Swords Dance is better than Screech. . . unless you want to PHaze
     
    True, I guess. Gliscor COULD go Screech over SD, but SD is probably the bteer choice

    Yeah SD>Screach since they just switch away the sreach,if gliscor could have area trp then that would be a different story, but it can't so SD would better suit it...
     
    Screech Gliscor would work reasonably well with Stealth Rock/Spikes support, as with any tactic revolving around phazing.

    Gliscor @ Leftovers
    Trait: Hyper Cutter
    EV: 252 HP / 48 Att / 208 Def
    Nature: Impish
    Screech
    Earthquake
    Aerial Ace/Stone Edge
    Roost/Stealth Rock/U-Turn
     
    Gliscor@Leftovers
    Trait - HyperCutter/SandVeil
    Moves -
    - Earthquake
    - IceFang/ThunderFang/StoneEdge
    - Roost
    - StealthRock/AerialAce/StoneEdge

    =P

    Could we discuss on a different Pokemon now?
     
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