POKEMON SUN AND MOON ULTIMATE THEORY

[ketchuphound777]

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[Mister Coffee]

Alright (*whew* I can't believe I read that whole thing!), so let me start out by saying, I learned a TON about the theory of alchemy just now, but this did not tell me anything useful about Pokemon at all.

I have read alchemy books before and have even a small collection of some alchemy books as well, but I just really can't see any truly deep connections or secrets of it relating to pokemon. Sure I can get on board with the idea that the most basic and simple alchemy concepts that any kid could learn by watching something like "Full Metal Alchemist", might possibly be as some small plot devices within the game, but I really don't think it goes any deeper than the normal exaggerated fantasy concepts that pokemon often like to run in their games.

I highly doubt that there is any truly substantial alchemical secrets hidden deep within the pokemon games, and trying to over analyze it in this fashion will most likely just frustrate you with more questions than answers as well as most of the questions between pokemon and Alchemy you will encounter will cause you to ask why they're inaccurate or so vastly different between Alchemical theory, and the most common answer will be, "...because it's a fantasy game about pokemon."

I will admit, I love the fact that you spent so much time writing up this well presented synopsis of the basis for alchemy and it's overall theory, but I think trying to present it with pokemon logic is a fruitless endeavor that just adds more confusion to not only speculation of the new games, but it also makes the overall alchemical theory even harder to believe let alone interpret.

I do not think that the summation of the pokemon franchise is all built around Alchemical Theory, and I do not think that the Legendary pokemon you are mentioning were fabricated as designs of the varying elements and processes within alchemy. As a person who is fascinated by alchemy and has done a "decent" amount of study on it, I can definitely say that, although it is possible that these games might have varying alchemy influences, I highly doubt that it goes as deep as what you and other Alchemy fans have been implying.

It's really a cool well thought out theory, but I doubt it will go this deep, it's way too complicated, spiritual, and dark for a pokemon game.

 

[ketchuphound777]

possible remakes for sun and moon(short version)

Remake of sun and moon
Solar eclipse

Dialga
The left pillar
The left pillar of Judgment is made up of the sephiroth of:
 Understanding (Saturn) ho-oh
 Severity of judgment (mars) marshadow
 Splendor -(mercury) (yin and yang), (zekrom and reshiram),


Lunar elcipse
Palkia
Right pillar
The right pillar of Mercy is made up of the sephiroth of:
 Wisdom (Neptune) gigareki
 Love / mercy(Jupiter)lugia
 Victory (venus) (death and strengthening) yvelta and xernes.

Arceus
The middle pillar of Mildness is made up of the sephiroth of:
 Crown (source)(kether) heaven (heaven)(???)
 Pluto forgotten lost (gartina)
 Beauty (union of feminine severity of judgment and masculine love / mercy) (sogleo)
 Foundation (union of feminine glory and masculine victory) (lunala)
 Kingdom (manifested physical world) earth= (zygarde)

 

[Mister Coffee]

Well I will admit, I do actually think that these games this time around will have a plot that is some what more mature than most of the previous plots. A lot of us are already speculating on whether the Aether Foundation is actually evil and whether or not they have been secretly experimenting on pokemon in cruel and possibly malicious ways. You should definitely participate in some of the other threads around here since I think you would actually find a lot of the theories and speculations going on around here about these games to be pretty interesting and relative to some of your opinions about the games.

I also can't stress enough how much I absolutely agree with your thoughts that this game is definitely NOT the end of the pokemon franchise. In fact, it's my opinion that this game is going to breathe new life into the franchise and it will continue to go on strongly from here.

So these threads are pretty old, so they might not be worth posting in, but you would probably get a good read out of them since they seem like the kind of information you're looking for about speculating how Alchemy and Pokemon may be related for these games.

https://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=372321

https://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=372348