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Octazooka

is that a lapras I hear?
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    Special Sweeper
    Jolteon@leftovers
    EVs: 252 S.ATK / 252 SPD / 6 HP
    Ability: Volt Absorb
    Nature: Timid [+SPD,-ATK]
    -Thunder Wave
    -Thunderbolt
    -Wish
    -Hidden Power [Ice]
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    Physical Tank
    Torterra@Shell Bell
    EVs: 252 HP / 148 ATK / 108 DEF
    Nature: Adamant [+ATK,-SPATK]
    -Curse
    -Sythnesis
    -Wood Hammer
    -Earthquake
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    Bulky Water
    Lapras@Enigma Berry
    EVs: 252 S.ATK / 128 HP / 126 DEF
    Nature: Bold [+DEF,-ATK]
    -Ice Beam
    -Thunderbolt
    -Rest
    -Sleep Talk
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    Mixed Sweeper
    Infernape@Life Orb
    EVs: 24 ATK / 232 SPD / 252 S.ATK
    Ability: Blaze
    Nature: Hasty [+SPD,-DEF]
    -Nasty Plot
    -Close Combat
    -Grass Knot
    -Flamethrower
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    Mixed Wall
    Dusknoir @ Leftovers
    EVs 252 HP, 156 Def, 100 Attack
    Ability: Pressure
    Nature: Careful [+SDEF, -SATK]
    -Will-o-Wisp
    -Pain Split
    -Brick Break
    -Shadow Punch


    I want a physical Sweeper to complete my team, I've been leaning towards Absol just because it looks cool, but it's speed isn't the best, suggestions would be nice :)
     
    Special Sweeper
    Jolteon@leftovers
    EVs: 252 S.ATK / 252 SPD / 6 HP
    Ability: Volt Absorb
    Nature: Timid [+SPD,-ATK]
    -Thunder Wave
    -Thunderbolt
    -Wish
    -Hidden Power [Ice]

    Looks good, but, jolteon isn't meant to wish really. Over t-wave and wish, use baton pass and substitute.
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    Physical Tank
    Torterra@Shell Bell
    EVs: 252 HP / 148 ATK / 108 DEF
    Nature: Adamant [+ATK,-SPATK]
    -Curse
    -Sythnesis
    -Wood Hammer
    -Earthquake

    Curser i guess
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    Bulky Water
    Lapras@Enigma Berry
    EVs: 252 S.ATK / 128 HP / 126 DEF
    Nature: Bold [+DEF,-ATK]
    -Ice Beam
    -Thunderbolt
    -Rest
    -Sleep Talk

    Seems alright
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    Mixed Sweeper
    Infernape@Life Orb
    EVs: 24 ATK / 232 SPD / 252 S.ATK
    Ability: Blaze
    Nature: Hasty [+SPD,-DEF]
    -Nasty Plot
    -Close Combat
    -Grass Knot
    -Flamethrower

    Ok as well. Nice seeing you using close combat even if it's physical.
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    Mixed Wall
    Dusknoir @ Leftovers
    EVs 252 HP, 156 Def, 100 Attack
    Ability: Pressure
    Nature: Careful [+SDEF, -SATK]
    -Will-o-Wisp
    -Pain Split
    -Brick Break
    -Shadow Punch

    Wall eh? I'd suggest using it as a rapid spinner

    I want a physical Sweeper to complete my team, I've been leaning towards Absol just because it looks cool, but it's speed isn't the best, suggestions would be nice :)

    Very good team I guess. :D
     
    Special Sweeper
    Jolteon@leftovers
    EVs: 252 S.ATK / 252 SPD / 6 HP
    Ability: Volt Absorb
    Nature: Timid [+SPD,-ATK]
    -Thunder Wave Baton Pass
    -Thunderbolt
    -Wish
    -Hidden Power [Ice]

    Jolteon doesn't need Thunder Wave with it's speed. Baton Pass to pass Wish.
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    Physical Tank
    Torterra@Shell Bell
    EVs: 252 HP / 148 ATK / 108 DEF
    Nature: Adamant [+ATK,-SPATK]
    -Curse
    -Sythnesis
    -Wood Hammer
    -Earthquake

    I'm iffy on the EV spread; maybe 128 Atk and Def with Leftovers. Consider Leech Seed maybe.
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    Bulky Water
    Lapras@Enigma Berry
    EVs: 252 S.ATK / 128 HP / 128 DEF
    Nature: Bold [+DEF,-ATK]
    -Ice Beam
    -Thunderbolt
    -Rest
    -Sleep Talk

    Not experienced with Lapras but I like that yours is a BoltBeamer.
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    Mixed Sweeper
    Infernape@Life Orb
    EVs: 24 ATK / 232 SPD / 252 S.ATK
    Ability: Blaze
    Nature: Hasty [+SPD,-DEF]
    -Nasty Plot Thunder Punch
    -Close Combat
    -Grass Knot
    -Flamethrower

    Infernape is too fragile to set up Nasty Plot, especially with Life Orb already equipped. T-Punch to counter waters. My EV spread for my Infernape is 244 Spd, 132 SpAtk and 132 Atk for Mixed Sweeping, but whatever works for you.
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    Mixed Wall
    Dusknoir @ Leftovers
    EVs 252 HP, 156 Def, 100 Attack
    Ability: Pressure
    Nature: Careful [+SDEF, -SATK]
    -Will-o-Wisp
    -Pain Split
    -Brick Break
    -Shadow Punch

    I guess it works.

    I want a physical Sweeper to complete my team, I've been leaning towards Absol just because it looks cool, but it's speed isn't the best, suggestions would be nice :)

    Maybe use AgiliGross as a quick Physical Sweeper...

    Metagross @ Leftovers
    >Clear Body
    EV's: 252 Atk, 100 Spd, 156 Def
    -Agility
    -Earthquake
    -Meteor Mash
    -Zen Headbutt

    Not really sure on Metagross though, many variants out there, but I chose Earthquake and STAB moves.

    I hope I helped you in some way. I hope some other patrons of this wonderful site will help you as well or fix something I have messed up. -Happy Battling!
     
    I've never really thought of Dusknoir as a rapid spinner, but I'll try it

    Infernape is too fragile to set up Nasty Plot, especially with Life Orb already equipped. T-Punch to counter waters. My EV spread for my Infernape is 244 Spd, 132 SpAtk and 132 Atk for Mixed Sweeping, but whatever works for you.

    yeah I've had some problems nasty plotting

    I could try AgiliGross

    Thanks for the help :)
     
    I've never really thought of Dusknoir as a rapid spinner, but I'll try it



    yeah I've had some problems nasty plotting

    I could try AgiliGross

    Thanks for the help :)

    Lol, not a rapid spinner, but to BLOCK rapid spin. If rapid spin doesn't hit the opponent, the spikes aren't blown away.
     
    lol

    Originally Posted by Octazooka [PokeCommunity.com] Rate /Fix My Team :]
    Special Sweeper
    Jolteon@leftovers
    EVs: 252 S.ATK / 252 SPD / 6 HP
    Ability: Volt Absorb
    Nature: Timid [+SPD,-ATK]
    -Thunder Wave Baton Pass
    -Thunderbolt
    -Wish
    -Hidden Power [Ice]

    Jolteon doesn't need Thunder Wave with it's speed. Baton Pass to pass Wish.

    Lol, you don't need baton pass to pass wish. It works just by swithing out
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    Physical Tank
    Torterra@Shell Bell
    EVs: 252 HP / 148 ATK / 108 DEF
    Nature: Adamant [+ATK,-SPATK]
    -Curse
    -Sythnesis
    -Wood Hammer
    -Earthquake

    I'm iffy on the EV spread; maybe 128 Atk and Def with Leftovers. Consider Leech Seed maybe.

    It is fine
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    Bulky Water
    Lapras@Enigma Berry
    EVs: 252 S.ATK / 128 HP / 128 DEF
    Nature: Bold [+DEF,-ATK]
    -Ice Beam
    -Thunderbolt
    -Rest
    -Sleep Talk

    Not experienced with Lapras but I like that yours is a BoltBeamer.

    It is fine as well
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    Mixed Sweeper
    Infernape@Life Orb
    EVs: 24 ATK / 232 SPD / 252 S.ATK
    Ability: Blaze
    Nature: Hasty [+SPD,-DEF]
    -Nasty Plot Thunder Punch
    -Close Combat
    -Grass Knot
    -Flamethrower

    Infernape is too fragile to set up Nasty Plot, especially with Life Orb already equipped. T-Punch to counter waters. My EV spread for my Infernape is 244 Spd, 132 SpAtk and 132 Atk for Mixed Sweeping, but whatever works for you.

    It can set up nasty plot =\
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    Mixed Wall
    Dusknoir @ Leftovers
    EVs 252 HP, 156 Def, 100 Attack
    Ability: Pressure
    Nature: Careful [+SDEF, -SATK]
    -Will-o-Wisp
    -Pain Split
    -Brick Break
    -Shadow Punch

    I guess it works.

    I want a physical Sweeper to complete my team, I've been leaning towards Absol just because it looks cool, but it's speed isn't the best, suggestions would be nice :)



    Maybe use AgiliGross as a quick Physical Sweeper...

    Metagross @ Leftovers
    >Clear Body
    EV's: 252 Atk, 100 Spd, 156 Def
    -Agility
    -Earthquake
    -Meteor Mash
    -Zen Headbutt

    Not really sure on Metagross though, many variants out there, but I chose Earthquake and STAB moves.

    I hope I helped you in some way. I hope some other patrons of this wonderful site will help you as well or fix something I have messed up. -Happy Battling!

    Lol, dont listen to this guy. He even said to use baton pass to pass wish lol
     
    Well, MKDS, Jolteon might need Thunder Wave to slow down a few sweepers for its teammates (especially Zam which is OU)
     
    Well, MKDS, Jolteon might need Thunder Wave to slow down a few sweepers for its teammates (especially Zam which is OU)
    That is true, and zam isn't OU anymore, it's now BL. BUT, you can also pass substitutes, and jolteon wouldn't take hits if it subbed. All you need to predict is a switch.
     
    Ugh. This forum complicates every team. >_<

    Jolteon is fine, just put Substitute over Wish. Jolteon is too fragile to use Wish. Plus, you need Subtitute, to scout switches. For example, You lead with Jolteon, while your opponent leads with Gyarados. Obviously they're going to switch out to avoid being toasted with a Thunderbolt, so that's your chance to set up a Substitute. If a non-Electavire comes out, you get a free Thunder Wave without being touched.

    Give Torterra Leftovers. Shell Bell is bad. I'd go Leech Seed over Synthesis, since you only get 33% back in a sandstorm.

    Leftovers on Lapras too. EV spread is iffy. For a pokemon like Lapras, I'd give it an EV spread of 196 Hp/64 Def/96 Sp. Atk/152 Sp. Def. Lapras has huge Hp, so it should be able to take a hit, so you should split it's defenses. Should have enough Special Attack to take down threats. I'd go with Surf over Thunderbolt though, simply for STAB.


    Infernape is good. No changes.

    Dusknoir should have Thunderpunch/Shadow Sneak over Brick Break and Shadow Punch. Too much Atk EV's imo, I'd drop some for some more Def EVs. 40 Atk EVs should suffice.

    As for your Physical Sweeper.. Hm... Aerodactyl would do decent on your team, considering you cover it's 2 special weakness (Volt Absorb/Water Absorb) You could use something to stop earthquake anyways.

    Aerodactyl @ Choice Band
    Nature: Jolly(+Spd, -Sp. Atk)
    Ability: Pressure
    EVs: 4 Hp, 252 Atk, 252 Spd
    - Stone Edge
    - Earthquake
    - Thunder/Ice Fang
    - Aerial Ace

    Or you could go Double-Edge over something with rock head ability, but that set covers more stuff I believe.
     
    Special Sweeper
    Jolteon@leftovers
    EVs: 252 S.ATK / 252 SPD / 6 HP
    Ability: Volt Absorb
    Nature: Timid [+SPD,-ATK]
    -Thunder Wave
    -Thunderbolt
    -Substitute
    -Hidden Power [Ice]

    I reccommend substitiute over wish, so he can take a few hits
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    Physical Tank
    Torterra@Shell Bell
    EVs: 252 HP / 148 ATK / 108 DEF
    Nature: Adamant [+ATK,-SPATK]
    -Curse
    -Sythnesis
    -Wood Hammer
    -Earthquake

    I don't use Torterra so i cant help you here
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    Bulky Water
    Lapras@Leftovers
    EVs: 252 S.ATK / 128 HP / 126 DEF
    Nature: Bold [+DEF,-ATK]
    -Ice Beam
    -Thunderbolt
    -Rest
    -Sleep Talk

    nice boltbeamer, its good. Needs Leftovers though
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    Mixed Sweeper
    Infernape@Life Orb
    EVs: 24 ATK / 232 SPD / 252 S.ATK
    Ability: Blaze
    Nature: Hasty [+SPD,-DEF]
    -Thunder Punch
    -Close Combat
    -Grass Knot
    -Flamethrower

    Like someone said above hes too fragile
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    Mixed Wall
    Dusknoir @ Leftovers
    EVs 252 HP, 252 Sp. Def, 6 Atk
    Ability: Pressure
    Nature: Careful [+SDEF, -SATK]
    -Will-o-Wisp
    -Pain Split
    -Confuse Ray
    -Shadow Punch

    Great for annoying
     
    I only have two leftovers plus most people ask no more than two of the same item

    thanks for the suggestions :]
     
    Special Sweeper
    Jolteon@leftovers
    EVs: 252 S.ATK / 252 SPD / 6 HP
    Ability: Volt Absorb
    Nature: Timid [+SPD,-ATK]
    -Agility / Substitute
    -Thunderbolt
    -Wish / Substitute
    -Baton Pass

    BPing Jolteon is best.

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    Physical Tank
    Torterra@Shell Bell
    EVs: 252 HP / 148 ATK / 108 DEF
    Nature: Adamant [+ATK,-SPATK]
    -Curse
    -Sythnesis
    -Wood Hammer
    -Earthquake

    Fine.
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    Bulky Water
    Lapras@Enigma Berry
    EVs: 252 S.ATK / 128 HP / 126 DEF
    Nature: Bold [+DEF,-ATK]
    -Ice Beam
    -Thunderbolt
    -Rest
    -Sleep Talk / Confuse Ray

    STalking is meh, but whatever.
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    Mixed Sweeper
    Infernape@Life Orb
    EVs: 24 ATK / 232 SPD / 252 S.ATK
    Ability: Blaze
    Nature: Hasty [+SPD,-DEF]
    -Nasty Plot
    -Close Combat
    -Grass Knot
    -Flamethrower

    Meh, I don't know if Infernape will even be able to use Nasty Plot without getting killed the next turn.
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    Mixed Wall
    Dusknoir @ Leftovers
    EVs 252 HP, 156 Def, 100 Attack
    Ability: Pressure
    Nature: Careful [+SDEF, -SATK]
    -Will-o-Wisp
    -Pain Split
    -Brick Break
    -Shadow Sneak

    Shadow Sneak outspeed and KO things like Alakazam and Gardevoir.


    I want a physical Sweeper to complete my team, I've been leaning towards Absol just because it looks cool, but it's speed isn't the best, suggestions would be nice :)

    Meh, OK I guess. Could always be better though.
     
    Well, if you can only use 2 lefties, stick them on Lapras and Dusknoir as they need them the most. Peteya Berry works well on the Jolteon I mentioned, and Torterra is fine with Shell Bell I suppose. Or the Ice Reducing Berry, Yache I think?
     
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