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Rate my new Team

umbreonofdarkness

Part-time Breeder, Trainer
    • 34
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    14
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    Hi!

    This is my new team:

    Umbreon
    Nature:Calm
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability:Synchronize
    Moves:
    Wish
    Baton Pass
    Taunt
    Mean look
    EV's: 252 spd,126 hp,126 speed

    Umbreon will come out first,Mean look an enemy,wish,then baton pass to a super effective monster, which the monster stuck in can do NOTHING about!

    Rhyperior
    Nature:Impish
    Ability:Solid Rock
    Item:?????
    Moves:
    Earthquake
    Stone Edge
    Avalanche
    Roar
    EV's:

    244 HP / 184 Def / 80 Attack

    Rhyperior was going to be a physical tank but it's attacks are so cool and its attack stat is so high I decided it would be a hard to defeat sweeper. But recently I've been reconsidering and I'm not so sure

    Togekiss

    Nature:Timid
    Ability: Serene Grace
    Item Life orb
    Moves:
    Nasty Plot
    Air slash
    Fire Blast
    Roost

    EV's:
    192 HP / 80 SpA / 236 Spe

    Togekiss. Special sweeper. Epic killer. Win!
    Togekiss will be my epic amazing special sweeper.I'll Baton pass Mean look from Umbreon to either Togekiss or Rhyperior, then I'll sweep for the game.Togekiss will start with Nasty plot, Then boost again, then AIR SLASH TO DEATH! Roost is to heal and remove flying type for the turn, fire blast is for pokemon that resist air slash.

    Skarmory
    Nature:Impish
    Item:Shed shell
    Ability: keen eye
    Moves:
    Stealth Rock
    Whirlwind
    Roost
    Brave bird

    EV's:252 HP/ 240 Def/16 spe

    Skarmory,Skarmory. Classic physical wall.Has a rubbish spd. Teamed up with my Blissey it creates SKARMBLISS combo. Skarmory walls anything that rhyperior can't take.

    Starmie
    nature:Timid
    Item:????
    ability: natural cure

    Moves:
    Rapid Spin
    Surf
    thunderbolt!!!
    Recover

    EV's: 252 hp/4 def/252 Spe

    Starmie is my Rapid spinner. It is faster than rotom A, Unlike Forretress, the other common spinner, it cannot spike/stealth rock. But starmie is way faster.And it can scare away Gyardos with thunderbolt! Epic Starmie!

    And my final one is.......

    BIDOOF!

    Nah just kidding

    Here's my final pokemon!

    Blissey
    Item:?????
    Nature:Bold
    Ability:Natural Cure

    Moves:
    Aromatherapy
    Softboiled
    Seismic Toss
    Thunder Wave/Toxic(Unsure, need suggestions)

    EV's:252 hP/ 252 Spd/4spe

    Blissey is a special wall. She walls all special attacks with ease, whilst Skarmory walls Defense. She also is a cleric, and heals all my team's status probs with aromatherapy. As i had Umbreon with wish, I decided I wouldn't have wish on Blissey( And besides, I can't have wish with aromatherapy anyway)


    So what do you think? Please can I have some comments and ideaa. Thanks.

    Umbreonofdarkness
     
    Umbreon as a lead is probably a bad idea. Most common leads are faster, e.g. azelf, aerodactyl etc so will just taunt first, rendering it useless. This means u have to switch, and allow entry hazards in straight away. Plus even if you do mean look a lead that can't taunt, hurt or set up on umbreon (honestly can't think of any lol), none of your pokes even have stat up moves so they can't set up if that happens. The best possible scenario u have is that you kill one poke of the other team, and they somehow don't do anything.
    Basically, umbreon is generally a bad ou lead unless its a chain pass team, and even then I doubt it would be the lead.
     
    umbreonofdarkness said:
    Blissey
    EV's:252 hP 252 Def/ 252 Spd/4spe
    Item:Leftovers
    Nature:Bold
    Ability:Natural Cure
    Moves:
    Aromatherapy
    Softboiled
    Seismic Toss
    Thunder Wave


    Blissey is a special wall. She walls all special attacks with ease, whilst Skarmory walls Defense. She also is a cleric, and heals all my team's status probs with aromatherapy. As i had Umbreon with wish, I decided I wouldn't have wish on Blissey( And besides, I can't have wish with aromatherapy anyway)
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    You will need those EVs in Defense. Otherwise a Pursuit from things like Scizor will take off like 80% of your HP, even if you aren't switching. Which is, obviously, really ridiculous. XD

    I know you have Skarmory, but if you say.. lose Skarmory or something, Bliss is screwed on her own. She can't even take a weak physical hit on her own without max Defense, that's not good. With max Defense, she takes hits as good as a max HP Scizor or Spiritomb. Pretty impressive~
    ​
     
    The Red Chain said:
    You will need those EVs in Defense. Otherwise a Pursuit from things like Scizor will take off like 80% of your HP, even if you aren't switching. Which is, obviously, really ridiculous. XD

    I know you have Skarmory, but if you say.. lose Skarmory or something, Bliss is screwed on her own. She can't even take a weak physical hit on her own without max Defense, that's not good. With max Defense, she takes hits as good as a max HP Scizor or Spiritomb. Pretty impressive~
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    Okay thanks. I should have thought of that because when I used her in the battle factory she died in one hit. I just stood there, gawping away at it for ages!
    SUPERBLISSEYWALL!
     
    An OU team with OU movepool...
    Obviously works otherwise it wouldn't be an OU, duh, but a couple of those could use another moves, like an Ice Beam for Blissey, instead of Seismic toss...
     
    dragoniteuser said:
    An OU team with OU movepool...
    Obviously works otherwise it wouldn't be an OU, duh, but a couple of those could use another moves, like an Ice Beam for Blissey, instead of Seismic toss...
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    Yep, OU team for definite!
    Ice beam on Blissey... maybe not, because rhyperior knows avalanche.

    I might replace rhyperior with scizor, but I'm not sure...
     
    Right. I'm getting rid of rhyperior. I'm also getting rid of Umbreon, and starmie.

    I will now have gyarados as a sweeper. But I'm thinking about tyrantinar.

    Foretress will be my rapid spinner, and it will also toxic spike

    Glicor will be my lead

    Please can I have some suggestions!
     
    Ok:
    Gyarados, already proven good Dragon dance sweeper! But it's definitly something everyone will expect, so... Something to suprise others might work...
    Foretress will be a good rapid spinner/spiker, but Spikes will be better than Toxic Spikes IMO.
    Gliscor might be a good lead, just set him with Ice Fang to take down other Aerodactyl leads...
     
    Keep in mind that I'm "offensifying" your team now, so my advice may not be 100% desirable if you want your team to be more defensive.

    Toxic spikes should work nicely along with Gyara, as it severely limits the time stuff like Vaporeon/Suicune/Celebi can stay in on it and wall it. LO Starmie works out okay with gyara due to it eliminating some of its counters rather easily, such as the aforementioned Vaporeon and Suicune, as well as Skarmory etc. Something along the lines of RS|Tbolt|H-Pump/Surf|Recover/Ice Beam could work?

    Since you'll be having a spinner in Starmie, you could swap Forry out for Roserade, since it has pretty decent synergy together with gyarados, easily absorbing random thunderbolts etc, and can just Natural Rest off any status trouble that comes your way. I'd suggest a LO set along the lines of Leaf Storm|HP Fire|T-Spikes|Rest, since it kills off most of the (viable) spinners w/o trouble, and severely dents lots of stuff that switches in. Eventually you could put Sludge Bomb over Rest if you find that Rose dies in two hits anyway and is set-up fodder for stuff like Dnite.

    SD Lucario could also work out in a slot, due to it beating Celebi/Rotom-A which could otherwise wall Gyarados and Starmie in Celebi's case, and it provides you with a decent late-game sweeper or a early-game wall breaker should you decide to save gyarados for later. A simple 252|252 spread should work out here as well, w/ SD|CC|E-speed|Crunch. If you find Aero to be very annoying and Celebi/Rotom to be not as big of a menace as previously thought, you could try Bullet Punch in the last slot in order to hit that as well as foe Gengar, which would usually wall this set.

    Finally, subsplit gengar could work out as well, since it 1) prevents your t-spikes from being spun away, 2) beats blissey one-on-one which may help starmie out quite a lot, 3) is a great switch-in to Gliscor, which is one of the most common answers to SD Lucario, and it also eliminates Celebi should it dare stay in on it. Something along the lines of Sub|PSplit|S-Ball|Focus Blast w/ 252 spe|252 spa should work out.

    Summary:
    x Lead with Gliscor, potentially w/ u-turn > taunt in order to break the sashes of Aero and Azelf as they taunt you
    x Swap Forretress out for LO Starmie
    x SD LO Lucario > Togekiss
    x Subsplit Gengar > Blissey
    x Roserade > Skarmory
     
    My new tema at the moment

    Opposite Day said:
    Keep in mind that I'm "offensifying" your team now, so my advice may not be 100% desirable if you want your team to be more defensive.

    Toxic spikes should work nicely along with Gyara, as it severely limits the time stuff like Vaporeon/Suicune/Celebi can stay in on it and wall it. LO Starmie works out okay with gyara due to it eliminating some of its counters rather easily, such as the aforementioned Vaporeon and Suicune, as well as Skarmory etc. Something along the lines of RS|Tbolt|H-Pump/Surf|Recover/Ice Beam could work?

    Since you'll be having a spinner in Starmie, you could swap Forry out for Roserade, since it has pretty decent synergy together with gyarados, easily absorbing random thunderbolts etc, and can just Natural Rest off any status trouble that comes your way. I'd suggest a LO set along the lines of Leaf Storm|HP Fire|T-Spikes|Rest, since it kills off most of the (viable) spinners w/o trouble, and severely dents lots of stuff that switches in. Eventually you could put Sludge Bomb over Rest if you find that Rose dies in two hits anyway and is set-up fodder for stuff like Dnite.

    SD Lucario could also work out in a slot, due to it beating Celebi/Rotom-A which could otherwise wall Gyarados and Starmie in Celebi's case, and it provides you with a decent late-game sweeper or a early-game wall breaker should you decide to save gyarados for later. A simple 252|252 spread should work out here as well, w/ SD|CC|E-speed|Crunch. If you find Aero to be very annoying and Celebi/Rotom to be not as big of a menace as previously thought, you could try Bullet Punch in the last slot in order to hit that as well as foe Gengar, which would usually wall this set.

    Finally, subsplit gengar could work out as well, since it 1) prevents your t-spikes from being spun away, 2) beats blissey one-on-one which may help starmie out quite a lot, 3) is a great switch-in to Gliscor, which is one of the most common answers to SD Lucario, and it also eliminates Celebi should it dare stay in on it. Something along the lines of Sub|PSplit|S-Ball|Focus Blast w/ 252 spe|252 spa should work out.

    Summary:
    x Lead with Gliscor, potentially w/ u-turn > taunt in order to break the sashes of Aero and Azelf as they taunt you
    x Swap Forretress out for LO Starmie
    x SD LO Lucario > Togekiss
    x Subsplit Gengar > Blissey
    x Roserade > Skarmory
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    Thanks!
    So my team, if I used this, would be:
    Gliscor(Lead)
    Life Orb Starmie(Rapid spinner, helps out my gyarados)
    Lucario(SD=SWEEPIFY! There to break some walls!)
    Gengar(Special sweeper)
    Roserade(Toxic spikes)
    Gyarados(DD, then sweep)

    Any other opinions?
     
    Please could someone close this thread, It's no longer needed, i've created a new thread with my new team.
     
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