RMT and suggest a tank

Arcknight316

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    Here's my team. It has no tank, so please suggest one. Also, no egg moves. BTW, I'm not even using Gyarados, so no need to yell.

    Gengar @ ???
    Thunderbolt
    Energy Ball
    Shadow Ball
    Sludge Bomb

    New addition. Great Special Sweeper, doesn't have an item though.

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    Salamence @ ???
    Dragon Claw
    Aerial Ace
    Earthquake
    Stone Edge

    Its moveset got a major overhaul. It doesn't have an item though.

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    Scizor @ Shell Bell
    Swords Dance
    X-Scissor
    Iron Head
    Night Slash/Roost?

    Same old, same old. It won't be as powerful with Roost, but Night Slash is weak anyway. What should I put?

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    Azelf @ ???
    Extrasensory (over psychic for PP)
    Energy Ball
    Flamethrower
    Shadow Ball

    GRRRRRREAT!!!! No item though. I actually haven't used it in battle yet.

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    Magmortar @ Charcoal/Choice Scarf?
    Flamethrower
    Thunderbolt
    Focus Blast
    Psychic

    EEEEEEEVEN BETTER!!!! What item?

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    Electivire @ ???
    Thunderbolt/Thunderpunch
    Earthquake
    Brick Break
    ???/Giga Impact

    Need help on the last move. Giga Impact?

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    Please rate and suggest.
     
    Yeah...this team fails. No acusations of flaming, 'k? Truth is, nothing on your team can take a hit. What ahppens when areodactyl (faster than all of your pokemon) and starts throwing EQs at you? Don't worry, it's more than capable of taking out Mence and gengar. Truth is, nothing on your team can take a hit, and you'll suffer for it. It also is tough to rate with NO EVs, NO natures, and NO egg moves? What? If you don't wanna breed, you're playin' the wrong game.

    But if you want me to put your entire team in bold...

    darkknight316 said:
    Here's my team. It has no tank, so please suggest one. Also, no egg moves. BTW, I'm not even using Gyarados, so no need to yell.

    Gengar @ Wide Lens / Focus Sash
    Timid
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
    Levitate
    Thunderbolt
    Hypnosis
    Shadow Ball
    Focus Blast

    New addition. Great Special Sweeper, doesn't have an item though.

    What? Isn't energy ball and Tbolt a tad...redundant? Sludge Bomb has terrible coverage.

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    Salamence @ Choice Band
    Jolly / Adamant
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
    Intimidate
    Dragon Claw
    Aerial Ace / Crunch
    Earthquake
    Stone Edge

    Its moveset got a major overhaul. It doesn't have an item though.

    CBmence.

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    Scizor @ Leftovers
    Adamant / Impish
    EVs: 252 HP / 128 Atk / 128 Def
    Swarm
    Swords Dance
    X-Scissor
    Baton Pass
    Agility

    Same old, same old. It won't be as powerful with Roost, but Night Slash is weak anyway. What should I put?

    If you REALLY want it to be a sweeper, give it agility and then max attack. Really, scizor is just a BPer, or can work with a CB set.

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    Azelf @ ???
    Extrasensory (over psychic for PP)
    Energy Ball
    Flamethrower
    Shadow Ball

    GRRRRRREAT!!!! No item though. I actually haven't used it in battle yet.

    That "GRRRRRREAT" sweeper of yours is pretty bas w/o nasty plot. I'm not putting in the bold since my azelf knowledge is limited...but I DO know it needs nasty plot.

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    Magmortar @ Choice Scarf / Life Orb
    Hasty
    252 Spd / 200 SAtk / 56 Atk
    Flame Body
    Flamethrower
    Thunderbolt
    Focus Blast
    Focus Punch / WoW

    EEEEEEEVEN BETTER!!!! What item?

    Charcoal??? Nononononononono. The 10% boost is very poor, NEVER use those items. Psychic has horrible coverage. also, 3 special sweepers? No. Magmortar is in no way necessary on this team. Focus punch for bliss. My 1st shot at magmortar, so...

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    Electivire @ Expert Belt
    Hasty / lonely
    EVs: 252 Spd / 252 Atk / 4 SAtk...my EVs are wrong
    Motor Drive
    Thunderbolt
    Earthquake
    Cross Chop
    Ice Punch

    Need help on the last move. Giga Impact?

    Giga impact? .................... Just never use any hyper beam type moves, 'k? Your set is flawed if it doesn't have ice punch...yes, an egg move.

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    Please rate and suggest.
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    Yeah...no walls...no tank's gonna save this team. Nothing can take a hit, therefore you will get burnt. Scizor IS a tank BTW...but really, 3 special sweepers isn't very balanced. You're gonna need a physical wall and a special wall for two of those useless sweepers (since having THREE isn't needed at all).

    There's my honest rate. I use honesty, don't take my advice as falming, I'm trying to help.

    And BTW, sorry, but Vire CAN'T be good without egg moves.
     
    Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 said:
    Yeah...this team fails. No acusations of flaming, 'k? Truth is, nothing on your team can take a hit. What ahppens when areodactyl (faster than all of your pokemon) and starts throwing EQs at you? Don't worry, it's more than capable of taking out Mence and gengar. Truth is, nothing on your team can take a hit, and you'll suffer for it. It also is tough to rate with NO EVs, NO natures, and NO egg moves? What? If you don't wanna breed, you're playin' the wrong game.

    But if you want me to put your entire team in bold...



    Yeah...no walls...no tank's gonna save this team. Nothing can take a hit, therefore you will get burnt. Scizor IS a tank BTW...but really, 3 special sweepers isn't very balanced. You're gonna need a physical wall and a special wall for two of those useless sweepers (since having THREE isn't needed at all).

    There's my honest rate. I use honesty, don't take my advice as falming, I'm trying to help.

    And BTW, sorry, but Vire CAN'T be good without egg moves.
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    OH YA completely forgot about nasty plot XD it cant take a hit cuz i dont have a tank but i need one
     
    darkknight316 said:
    OH YA completely forgot about nasty plot XD it cant take a hit cuz i dont have a tank but i need one
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    Did you read a word I wrote? You don't necessarily need a tank, you need a special wall and a physical wall. your team is incredibly weak to the most common sweepers.
     
    True enough, and for your team, you will HAVE to remove 2 special sweepers, my votes go to Azelf and Magmortar for removal because one, legendaries aren;t allowed in many battles at all, whihc limits usage, and Magmortar is ugly plus Gengar has more coverage. Special Wall, im going to say either Milotic or Blissey, physical wall, go for Forrestress with Spikes and Rapid Spin, and tank probably, hmmm, Rhyperior anyone? Im crap with sets but that seems like a more well balanced team to me.
     
    Ah yes...and you have no heal beller, spinner, etc. Use CP's suggestions too. Forry is a great physical wall.
     
    The Chatot Pirate said:
    CRAP forgot to add that together right... Depends if you want Scizor for BPing purposes or Rhyperior for well, crushing everything purposes.
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    I vote Rhyinferior. The CB version, if you give it focus punch, REALLY hurts skarm...with proper prediction of course.
     
    The Chatot Pirate said:
    Plus if you add in the ability Solid Rock, all super-effective moves are halved, it laughs at anything trying to EQ it.
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    Not haved, but 1.66x effective instead of 2x effected. It still doesn't take EQ too well...and chainchomp dominates the new edition of this team.
     
    Really, stupid serebii lying abotu ti being halved. Seems odd that my Aerodactyl took out 1/5 HP on one using EQ though, although it was hacked, but the guy didnt know it and it had normal stats. And I am aware of that, but some people dont allow legendaries entirely in some battles, me included.
     
    airconditioning said:
    Actually, while Azelf is a Legendary, he's considered OU, meaning he's used fairly often. It's ubers that are banned.

    Legend != Uber
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    You mean legends AREN'T ubers? Eh, gengar fits this team well I guess. But meh, I'm rocking out to Queen right now, what do I know? An aromatherapist is needed, or WoW, Twave, and other annoying status conditions hurt. You would have to use bliss over milo.
     
    The Chatot Pirate said:
    So in the end added up thats Gengar Electivire Forrestress Milotic/Blissey Rhyperior Salamence Scizor, thats MUCH more balanced and fills all roles.
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    ok. ill get a blissey. Golem over rhyperior (i traded it away). Skarm over forret (i dont ave one) that might work
     
    GOLEM OVER RHYPERIOR! Keeping my temper down... Anyways no way that will work. One forretress is a must to spikes/rapid spin, and golem is not even a little bit as good as Rhyperior.
     
    oh and to clear confusion i called walls and tanks same my bad ill stop doing that now

    The Chatot Pirate said:
    GOLEM OVER RHYPERIOR! Keeping my temper down... Anyways no way that will work. One forretress is a must to spikes/rapid spin, and golem is not even a little bit as good as Rhyperior.
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    *PANTS* how bout a rhydon i cant get a perior
     
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    Golem can't attack like rhyperior...seriously. You're gonna need to use Inferior (rhyperior) or something else not named golem. Golem can't attack...ugh...and lol, without skarm, SR and spikes are gonna boil you.

    EDIT:

    Tank-a pokemon that can take hits fairly well and dish them out too.

    Wall-A pokemon thats sole purpose is to absorb attacks.

    There ya go.

    Really, just get the trading thing...or use something else. Rhydon isn't what it was in ADV
     
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