RMT Gen 5(OU)

[shvihka]

Hello!
As you see I'm not posting here very often,but I decided to get some help/suggestion from you guys.
I wanted to make an unpredictable team so I made some odd movesets.

When I just started this team I thought about reducing weaknesses to minimum would be a good strategy to start off.
So,I added Spiritomb and Shibirudon to the team first.

Next step was finding a SRock lead,here I chose Heatran because of his awesome amount of resistances.

Then,I needed a typical sweeper,with 1 or 2 weakness and I chose Kingdra for this job.

I figured out I needed a Rspinner and something to deal with dragons,something fast enough to outspeed them,Furiijio was the answer as it also has ground immunity which is always welcome=).

Last but not least I wanted to have a fast special attacker and I found Meloetta,having only 2 weaknesses helps it a lot also=).

O.K.
Enough talking,I present to you my first Gen V team:

Heatran @ Balloon
Hardy, 252 SpA / 4 Sp.Def / 252 Spd
Flash Fire

Flamethrower
Earth Power
HP Grass
SRock

Typical Heatran lead,sets up SR and gets maybe 1 or 2 hits and dies.
HP Grass is there mainly for Water/Ground types.
Balloon is an awesome item to have as most ppl will go straight for EQ to kill it off and I got countless forfeits this way=).


Shibirudon @ Lum Berry
Lonely, 252 Att / 92 SpA / 164 Spd
Levitate

Wild Bolt
Rest
Dragon Claw
Grass Knot

I decided to go with a mixed set here mainly to punish Ground types with GKnot,surprisingly nobody expects it to have Dragon Claw so Dragons are being punished hard.
Rest is for recoil from STAB WB and Lum Berry wakes it up.


Spiritomb @ Leftovers
Calm, 252 HP / 140 Def / 116 Spd
Pressure

Rest
Sleep Talk
Shadow Ball
HP Fight

Nothing new here,the typical Smogon stall set..


Melloeta @ Lum Berry
Mild, 252 SpA / 4 Sp.Def / 252 Spd
Serene Grace

Psychic
Thunder Wave
HP Fire
Focus Blast

Psychic is for STAB,T-Wave is always helpful,HP Fire is for bugs and Nattorei which seems to always switch in and Focus Blast is for Dark Types.


Kingdra @ Lum Berry
Adamant, 4 HP / 252 Att / 252 Spd
Swift Swim

Substitute
Dragon Dance
Outrage
Waterfall

Again,nothing new here,typical SubDD Kingdra..


Furiijio @ Life Orb
Timid, 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spd
Levitate

Rapid Spin
Confuse Ray
Ice Beam
HP Ground

Well,Confuse Ray has won many battles for me especially in combination with T-Wave which stops annoying teams,Ice Beam is STAB
and HP Ground is for coverage.

Threat List:
Terakion
Kojondo
Kerudio
Jaroda
Blissey/Chansey

Well,this is it,criticism is welcome=))

 

[Perriechu]

It's hard for people to rate a 5th generation teams.

Know one knows what tiers these Pokemon will go in.

You have Melloeta on there, for all we know she could be in Ubers.

 

[shvihka]

It's hard for people to rate a 5th generation teams.

Know one knows what tiers these Pokemon will go in.

You have Melloeta on there, for all we know she could be in Ubers.

I honestly doubt it will end up being Uber,but I think the point here is discussing,suggesting and helping out.
If everybody says we can't rate those,then what's the point in having a forum for team rates.
I think that "shut up if don't know what you are saying" attitude won't help.
But that's only my opinion,sorry if I'm being too harsh.

 

[jkriall]

^ agreed

But yea, I Think lum berry on 3 sweepers won't help out that often. Shibirudon is good with choice band and u-turn over rest, as even though it has no weakness, its defences are meh and has few resistances.
Probably life orb over lum berry for the other two, turns some 2hkos into 1hkos.
I like your strategy of covering as many weaknesses as possible, but sometimes it is good to cover specific poke typing e.g. if dd Salamence gives you a bunch of trouble, add choice band Weavile with ice shard etc...
Good idea for lead Heatran, shame I can't see marilands typing chart for gen 5, but I dnt think there are any huge weaknesses.

Edit: Just noticed your threat list, well its mostly fighting types, so bulky mence or gyara would work. Iv been trying this Espeon, works pretty well:

Espeon @ light clay
Bold Evs: 252hp 252def 4spA
~ Reflect
~ Light Screen
~ Psychic / (new physical damage special move)
~ Yawn

With new ability, this is an awesome status absorber, switch it in on predicted will-o-wisps, stealth rocks etc... and give your sweepers some support.

 

[Dark Pulse94]

one thing: you should give Shibi-whatever a Chesto Berry, not a Lum Berry.

that way, if you get statused, you won't lose the Lum berry, and you can rest to remove the status. it's win-win.

 

[dead-man-walking]

Is this in-game or on an online simulator?

That question aside, Furijio can be more deadly with Ice Breath + Ice Jewel (does ~54% HP damage to Modest Reshiram without SpD EV and 31 SpD IV).

Shibirudon could do without Grass Knot, me thinks. Since nobody actually used Gravity nowadays.

You need something that could take Physical Attacks to protect Furijio, although Spiritomb could do it very well, you might want to opt for something with bulkier Defenses.

You also need a Physical Attacker. Hihidaruma with Choice Scarf can help you on killing Blissey.

And lastly, do Dark Pulse's suggestion. Chesto + Rest= Utter Trollage

 

[shvihka]

^ agreed

But yea, I Think lum berry on 3 sweepers won't help out that often. Shibirudon is good with choice band and u-turn over rest, as even though it has no weakness, its defences are meh and has few resistances.
Probably life orb over lum berry for the other two, turns some 2hkos into 1hkos.
I like your strategy of covering as many weaknesses as possible, but sometimes it is good to cover specific poke typing e.g. if dd Salamence gives you a bunch of trouble, add choice band Weavile with ice shard etc...
Good idea for lead Heatran, shame I can't see marilands typing chart for gen 5, but I dnt think there are any huge weaknesses.

Edit: Just noticed your threat list, well its mostly fighting types, so bulky mence or gyara would work. Iv been trying this Espeon, works pretty well:

Espeon @ light clay
Bold Evs: 252hp 252def 4spA
~ Reflect
~ Light Screen
~ Psychic / (new physical damage special move)
~ Yawn

With new ability, this is an awesome status absorber, switch it in on predicted will-o-wisps, stealth rocks etc... and give your sweepers some support.

First of all,thank you.
Shibirudon was really the weak link of this team,I'm gonna try him as a Choice Bander.
Melloeta can switch to Life Orb,but I have Lum Berry on Kingdra cause of Outrage,after all it's really not that hard to set up a +3/4 DD and sweep.

Weaknesses:
X1 Water
X1 Fire
X2 Fight
X1 Bug
X1 Rock
X1 Dragon
X1 Dark
X1 Steel
X1 Ground(X4 Potential Weakness)

This is team also shares 8 (not including Balloon) immunities ..

I might try that suggested Espeon because I've already experienced myself
what it can do,but I really don't know who should I swap it for,because it
seems to me like a lead and getting rid of Heatran might not be a good idea.

one thing: you should give Shibi-whatever a Chesto Berry, not a Lum Berry.

that way, if you get statused, you won't lose the Lum berry, and you can rest to remove the status. it's win-win.

Good idea,thanks.

Is this in-game or on an online simulator?

That question aside, Furijio can be more deadly with Ice Breath + Ice Jewel (does ~54% HP damage to Modest Reshiram without SpD EV and 31 SpD IV).

Shibirudon could do without Grass Knot, me thinks. Since nobody actually used Gravity nowadays.

You need something that could take Physical Attacks to protect Furijio, although Spiritomb could do it very well, you might want to opt for something with bulkier Defenses.

You also need a Physical Attacker. Hihidaruma with Choice Scarf can help you on killing Blissey.

And lastly, do Dark Pulse's suggestion. Chesto + Rest= Utter Trollage

This is for PO.
I know that something on this team is out of place,but what?
I really don't know who to replace,they all seem to be quite important..)))