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RMT Shoddy.Me trying tactics =/Fail?

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    Okay,i'm, trying not to be an idiot who uses no tactics here.Is this Sandstorm team good or bad?

    Tyranitar@ Choice Band
    Jolly
    252atk,252spd,4hp
    Stone Edge
    EQ
    Crunch
    Pursuit

    Same moves as CB Ttar,but i like speedy things best as leads.Gone for maxximum damage attacks msotly,with Pursuit as an add-on.

    Swampert @ Leftovers
    Careful
    240hp,52atk,216def
    Sleep Talk
    Earthquake
    Avalanche
    Rest

    Trying out a RestalkSpert.Some of my favourite attacks,plus somthing to make them better at hurting things while healing.Never use Stone Edge on a Swampert,as it has low accuracy,adnb low accuracy non-STAB doesn't make much sense to me.

    Garchomp @ Yache Berry
    Jolly
    4hp,252atk,252spd
    Swords Dance
    Dragon Claw
    Fire Fang
    Earthquake

    Don't actually like Garchomp,but one pokemon i don't like in an entire team in return for a lot more KOs seems a fair trade for me.Gone DC over Outrage as i don't want to be stuck on outrage if a Skarmory switches in.Sand Stream is just the icing on the cake for me.

    Gengar @ Choice Scarf
    Timid
    252spd,252sp.atk,4hp
    Focus Blast
    Shadow Ball
    HP Ice
    Thunderbolt

    ScarfGar

    Mamoswine @ Choice Band
    Adamant
    54hp,252atk,192spd
    Ice Shard
    Earthquake
    Stone Edge
    Ice Fang

    I'm finally realising that speed isn't everything in OU now.

    Tentacruel @ Leftovers
    Liquid Ooze
    Calm
    204hp,96sp.atk,172sp.def,36spd
    Surf
    Ice Beam
    Rapid Spin
    Toxic Spikes

    I always have trouble covering tihngs on the ground when i use SR.


    So,is it any good?
     
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    If lucario dies, physical walls are going to laugh in your face all day long. You seriously need to bring in something that can hit special-wise. You also have no walls, just the occasional physical tank. A competant special sweeper will also destroy you. Both the above need changing before we can even touch on movesets.
     
    You need walls.
    Otherwise MixApe comes in and goes OMG LOL!!!
    as it runs through your entire team for supereffective damage,
    pull out Torterra, for a physical wall, if you want to stick with "sandstorm" put in Skarmory, Gliscor, or Hippowdon, as for special walls there's not much that resists SS I'ld recommend a blissey@leftovers, lefties cancels ss damage, and blissey's awesome.
     
    Torterra is no wall, even if he changed his set. More of a tank, as he cannot heal himself well enough. & Mixape will still cause him mysery & woe.
     
    Before I rate this, I thought you would like to know tat most SS teams I encounter usually only have 3-4 Pokemon that resist SS, including one Sand Streamer.



    Okay,i'm, trying not to be an idiot who uses no tactics here.Is this Sandstorm team good or bad?

    Tyranitar@ Leftovers
    Jolly
    252atk,252spd,4hp
    Stone Edge
    EQ
    Crunch
    Pursuit

    Same moves as CB Ttar,but i like speedy things best as leads.Gone for maxximum damage attacks msotly,with Pursuit as an add-on. Since you don't have the CB boost, I would consider DD>> Crunch/Pursuit. Also, Ttar isn't tat speedy, but it can make some noise in the speed department after a DD.

    Swampert @ Leftovers
    Careful
    240hp,52atk,216def
    Sleep Talk
    Earthquake
    Avalanche
    Rest

    Trying out a RestalkSpert.Some of my favourite attacks,plus somthing to make them better at hurting things while healing.Never use Stone Edge on a Swampert,as it has low accuracy,adnb low accuracy non-STAB doesn't make much sense to me. Reasonable.

    Garchomp @ Yache Berry
    Jolly
    4hp,252atk,252spd
    Swords Dance
    Dragon Claw
    Fire Fang
    Earthquake

    Don't actually like Garchomp,but one pokemon i don't like in an entire team in return for a lot more KOs seems a fair trade for me.Gone DC over Outrage as i don't want to be stuck on outrage if a Skarmory switches in.Sand Stream is just the icing on the cake for me. K

    Torterra @ Leftovers
    Impish
    252hp,20def,236spd
    Leech Seed
    Substitute
    Earthquake
    Toxic

    Love Leech Seed,jsut love it.Unless it's used against me. Terra doesnt really do so well on teams anymore, as it can die to a Mxape Flamthrower. I would pull him out.

    Mamoswine @ Choice Band
    Adamant
    54hp,252atk,192spd
    Ice Shard
    Earthquake
    Stone Edge
    Ice Fang

    I'm finally realising that speed isn't everything in OU now. Not rlly. that's only for those who can take attacks, not those who attack. Ok set.

    Lucario @ Choice Specs
    Modest
    Steadfast
    4def,252sp.atk,252spd
    Vacuum Wave
    Aura Sphere
    HP Ice
    Dark Pulse

    SpecsLuke.All it is.My special sweeper.Benefits form not being harmed by Sandstorm while still being a threat ot many pokes. K

    So,is it any good?
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    Your problem is that your team consists of 2 tanks, 3 phyiscal attckers, and 1 special attacker. I think you really need to consider changing this stuff around a little. Let's take a look at your current team

    Tar- Chomp- Terra- Pert- Luke- Mamo

    Tar and Chomp can stay in there;Tar to lead, Chomp to physical attack. Now we need a phyiscal wall. Luke really doesn;t do as well as a lot of other sp. atackers in the metagame. Let's focus on your main problem, a dire need of sp. attackers and Pokes wh don't die to HP Ice Mixape.

    All of the good special sweepers do die to mixape in some way or another, so let's choose Heatran for this team. Specs Tran with Fire Blast works fine.

    Next, you need some walls. In the physical department, Forry and Gliscor are two of the tops. We'll go with standard Gliscor with AA to get Mixape(not sure if it OHKO's or not, but can scare).

    As for a special wall, Blissey with Lefties can come in. As Beginnings said, Blissey's Lefties will nullify SS damage, and blissey can come in and take a good sp. attk, whihch your old team would practically fail to do.

    For a final slot, I would put a mixed sweeper to come in and surprise. Mixmence can come in and fill that job. Go Fire Blast/ Draco Meteor/ Brick Break/ Roost. Roost is there to recover SS and LO damage that can hinder Mence.

    So, your new team is:

    CB Tar- Yache Chomp- Bliss- Mixmence- SpecsTran- AA Gliscor

    EDIT: Oops, I just realized something. This team is pretty Machamp weak. Maybe run Skarm as a Physical Wall?
     
    kiddo999 said:
    Okay I'm, trying not to be an idiot who uses no tactics here. Is this Sandstorm team good or bad?

    Tyranitar@ Life Orb
    Jolly/Naive
    252atk,252spd,4hp
    Stone Edge
    EQ
    Crunch
    Pursuit/Fire Blast

    Same moves as CB Ttar,but i like speedy things best as leads.Gone for maximum damage attacks mostly, with Pursuit as an add-on.

    Tyranitar isn't the greatest speedy lead out there. If you want to lead with this, try...

    T-Tar@ Lum Berry
    Sassy, (3 speed IVs)
    240HP/36atk/48def/184sp.def

    Taunt/Substitute
    Fire Punch
    Thunder (or Thunderbolt, although this set needs to hit hard.)
    Crunch

    This set appears to be a very weird set, but it counters the top leads of the metagame. 401 HP and 310 Special Defense + Sandstorm allow Tyranitar to survive a 359 Special Attack Life Orb Gengar's Focus Blast over 97% of the time. 401 HP and 268 Defense allow Tyranitar to survive a Waterfall from a 383 Attack Choice Band Gyarados on average. The Taunt/Sub is there for ruining Sleep Powder openers (if you predict correctly.) The low speed minimizes Bronzong's ability to resorting to a 5HKO with Gyro Ball, assuming it has minimum attack.

    Of course, you could always lead with standard CBTar.

    Swampert @ Leftovers
    Impish
    240hp,52atk,216def
    Sleep Talk
    Earthquake
    Avalanche
    Rest

    Trying out a RestalkSpert.Some of my favourite attacks,plus something to make them better at hurting things while healing. Never use Stone Edge on a Swampert,as it has low accuracy, and low accuracy non-STAB doesn't make much sense to me.

    I'll go with this.

    Garchomp @ Yache Berry
    Jolly
    4hp,252atk,252spd
    Swords Dance
    Dragon Claw
    Fire Fang
    Earthquake

    Don't actually like Garchomp,but one pokemon i don't like in an entire team in return for a lot more KOs seems a fair trade for me.Gone DC over Outrage as i don't want to be stuck on outrage if a Skarmory switches in.Sand Stream is just the icing on the cake for me.

    I've never used Garchomp, so this is fine. Just note that you can't 2HKO some things without Outrage, but Claw will be fine.

    Torterra @ Leftovers
    Impish
    212HP/252Def/44spd

    Wood Hammer
    Earthquake/Stone Edge
    Leech Seed
    Stealth Rock/Protect/Toxic

    Love Leech Seed,just love it.Unless it's used against me.

    Torterra isn't a very good sub-seeder due to its high HP. The set I posted basically improves yours and gives more potential. I threw Toxic up in the last slot because Torterra can leech the hell out of HP with Toxic, Seeding, and Sandstorm.

    Mamoswine @ Choice Band
    Adamant
    54hp,252atk,192spd
    Ice Shard
    Earthquake
    Stone Edge
    Ice Fang

    I'm finally realizing that speed isn't everything in OU now.

    A lot of teams are Mamoswine weak. Now, I know I may sound stupid saying this, but you could even opt for something like Bite in that last slot to hit things like Mismagius, Cresselia, and Gengar a little harder. However, that's just a small novelty suggestion.

    Lucario @ Choice Specs
    Modest
    Steadfast
    4def,252sp.atk,252spd
    Vacuum Wave
    Aura Sphere
    HP Ice
    Dark Pulse/Shadow Ball

    SpecsLuke.All it is.My special sweeper.Benefits form not being harmed by Sandstorm while still being a threat ot many pokes.

    Props for not going SD Luke. Shadow Ball is also usable in the last slot.

    So,is it any good?
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    You have an extreme lack of special attacking, so if Lucario dies, then you're going to have a lot of trouble with physical walls. There is also an extreme MixApe weakness, seeing as it can OHKO all of your team, barring YacheChomp, who still eats a big hit. I suggest something like Tentacruel, seeing as it can absorb Toxic Spikes that terrorize most of your Pokemon. If you want a more offensive threat, then Starmie will work, although switching in on Grass Knot will be troublesome. Also, opting for a wall like Sleep Talk Cresselia will give you some sturdiness, but it isn't required. The team is offensive, but needs some major revision in terms of team synergy so you can easily switch on predicted attacks with little damage.

    A sandstorm team doesn't need every Pokemon resistant to it. That's a common mistake these days, however. Consider looking at what I've said, and give us an update whenever you can.
     
    ABYAY said:
    You have an extreme lack of special attacking, so if Lucario dies, then you're going to have a lot of trouble with physical walls. There is also an extreme MixApe weakness, seeing as it can OHKO all of your team, barring YacheChomp, who still eats a big hit. I suggest something like Tentacruel, seeing as it can absorb Toxic Spikes that terrorize most of your Pokemon. If you want a more offensive threat, then Starmie will work, although switching in on Grass Knot will be troublesome. Also, opting for a wall like Sleep Talk Cresselia will give you some sturdiness, but it isn't required. The team is offensive, but needs some major revision in terms of team synergy so you can easily switch on predicted attacks with little damage.

    A sandstorm team doesn't need every Pokemon resistant to it. That's a common mistake these days, however. Consider looking at what I've said, and give us an update whenever you can.
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    I'm oging to replace Torterra,as everyone seems to say that it's rubbish at whant i want to use it for.I tihnk i'll use CBTar as my lead,thanks for the set though,maybe i'll swap Lucario for sometihng,as actually,i don't realy like specialLuke,i jsut knew i'd get a lot of stick if i had no special sweepers.depending on how well it does on Shoddy,i may drop Mamoswine,although most likely i won't.
    I'm going to use my old Azelf i had in my last RMT,as nobody seemed to have any problems with it:

    Azelf @ Leftovers
    4hp,252sp.ak,252spd
    Nasty Plot
    Flamethrower
    Psychic
    Grass Knot

    Can anyone give me a good set for a walling Tentacruel?All i ifndo n Smogon is offensive sets asnd a support one which doesn't seem bulky enough.
     
    Torterra is a great pokemon, despite his weaknesses.

    However, you do not need it at the moment. Azelf is a fine replacement.
     
    Tentacruel can't technically "wall". It does have great sp.def, but common weaknesses tear it down. Use the support set.

    Keep SpecsLuke because it's awesome, and gives you a defense vs. Weavile, which causes a LOT of problems for you. Azelf, I wouldn't recommend due to it adding to your Weavile weakness. Consider something else that's a special threat that can live against Weavile. Heatran can work, but you have a nasty ground weakness as it is. Scarfed Gengar can revenge kill Weavile, so keep note of that too. It also serves as a ground resist, though not a very good one. I know it's weak to Pursuit, but at least you threaten a swift KO against it.
     
    Oh yeah, Weavile, my bad.
     
    on ttar, you don't need 2 dark moves. replace one of them for another move. on chompy, replace fire fang for fire blast/flamethrower so you don't get wall'd by skarm. on mamoswine, same with ttar. take out one ice move and put another move. and use all of the evs, not just leave out 2.
     
    Before you give a rate, make sure you have full understanding of why he might be making certain moves. The two dark moves are pretty essential, because one hits pokemon switching out, and the other move, Crunch is a more reliable move. Samewith Mamo. Ice Shard for quick hitting, IceFang for moar powah.
     
    yeah,and also,you can't havem ore than 252of any EV or they're wasted.I ithnk i'll use Thsi Gengar:

    Gengar @ Choice Scarf
    Timid
    252spd,252sp.atk,4hp
    Focus Blast
    Shadow Ball
    Psychic
    Thunderbolt

    I often use this standard.I will sue support Tenta then.I can see why i got reported a lto to start with whenever i tried rating.I ithnk i helped that guy,Swampertrulz out with his team before i gave up for a month
     
    Psychic has redundant coverage and it isn't needed. Go with Hidden Power Ice so you can punish dragons.
     
    I think your is alright but i dont rly know about the swampert idk what to say about it but just dont know. i mean it will be very hard to get enough curses in to do enough damage because he can get killed by anything with grassknot or energy ball.
     
    HP Ice with all of these Yache Berrys are becoming a little predicted. I'd go with Explosion, since you can finish something off which is nice.
     
    Well this team definitely lacks the ability to hit from the special side of things. So that's a consideration. Your Tyranitar is just odd. There's no real point in leftovers as there isn't enough Hp investment to warrant it. you're better off going with a choice band as well, seeing as it's jolly, to really make sure you hit hard. Alternatively give him a complete overhaul, nature and ev's included.

    If your worried about skarmory switching in on Garchomp, your better off going with fireblast over fire fang. A skarmory if trained properly will just sponge off a fire fang easily and set up on you.

    There's no absolute need for a whole lot of walls in a team, so long as you can predict well and use your team to wall what you need.

    Having DDChomp, CBTar and CBSwine seems like a bit overkill and you could always switch one out for something that can be used as a good wall. Some steel types would be welcome as a lot of those provide you with a lot of resistances.

    that's all i have to say really :)
     
    Ok,thanks for all the new advice.I'm jsut going to edit my original post form now on.But,i iwll say,i have got HP Ice on Gengar,i forgot to put Choice Band on Ttar yesterday but have rectified that mistake,adn Mexirican,try to read the posts properly,i had Resttalk spert when yo posted,not Cursespert.
     
    There's no absolute need for a whole lot of walls in a team, so long as you can predict well and use your team to wall what you need.
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    Really, he has no walls. He has a Swampert to tank on the physical side and Tenta to support. Is this bad? Notreally. Just don't call them walls.

    I like the additions of Gar and Tenta, becasue it provides you with a little special firepower, and you aren't as Machamp/ Basic Mixape weak as you used to be.
     
    Hey mate,no ofence,but take this fomr someone its happened to.Shut up before you get reported for spamming.I jsut ouinfd out my Mamoswine can take out a Wobby though
     
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