Show Me The Best Wall Team

Vainz

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    I am intrested in making a defensive team. I am not sure about Nature's. Here are some of the pokemon that i was thinking about using. I will probably be utilizing Toxic and Curse(for Dusknoir).

    Dusknoir
    Shuckle
    Probopass

    Please give some suggestions
     
    Both Blissey and Snorlax have great SDef, but they both have bad Def. I would probably choose Blissey

    So far we have:

    Dusknoir@ Leftovers
    Nature:
    -Curse
    -Destiny Bond
    -Confuse Ray
    -Shadow Punch
    Blissey@ Leftovers
    Nature:
    -Softboiled
    -Attract
    -FILLER
    -FILLER
    Probopass@ Leftovers
    Nature:
    -Iron Defense
    -Thunder Wave
    -FILLER
    -FILLER
    Shuckle@ Leftovers
    Nature:
    -Toxic
    -FILLER
    -FILLER
    -FILLER

    I need some move suggestions and some help with Natures
    If you think i should change these pokemon, please post.
     
    Uh, I'm sure Milotic is a great Special Wall, with its phenomonal Special Defense.
     
    That is a good choice. Our team doesnt have a weakness to Elec or Grass yet. Its Defense isnt half bad either. We will add Milotic.

    The Team so far is:

    Dusknoir@ Leftovers
    Nature:
    -Curse
    -Destiny Bond
    -Confuse Ray
    -Shadow Punch

    Blissey@ Leftovers
    Nature:
    -Softboiled
    -Attract
    -FILLER
    -FILLER

    Probopass@ Leftovers
    Nature:
    -Iron Defense
    -Thunder Wave
    -FILLER
    -FILLER

    Shuckle@ Leftovers
    Nature:
    -Toxic
    -FILLER
    -FILLER
    -FILLER

    Milotic@ Leftovers
    Nature:
    -Aqua Ring
    -Mirror Coat
    -FILLER
    -FILLER

    We only need one more pokemon until the Defense Team is complete
    if you have any more suggestions, changes, or additions, please post.
     
    How about adding an Umbreon. Her Defense and Special Defense along with her HP aint to shabby either.

    She can also learn a variety of annoying attacks such as Toxic, Taunt, Yawn, Mean Look etc.
     
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    Schuckle is bad... best Defenses in the game, but his HP is TERRIBLE. Check out Claydol...

    Claydol + Skarmory + Blissey = best walling team.

    Add Dusknoir, and maybe Spiritomb.

    Milotic works too.

    So:

    Claydol
    Skarmory
    Blissey
    Dusknoir
    Spiritomb
    Milotic
     
    Pain Split on Noir makes him one bad tanking machine. You should probably remove Curse, unless you add Mean Look.
     
    Ok, Ok, lets hold on a minute. I agree about the Shuckle statement made by Richard Steel, so we are going to get rid of it. Plain Split is a good idea, so we get rid of Curse, and put that in. Claydol has high defense, but he also has six weakness:

    Water
    Grass
    Ice
    Bug
    Ghost
    Dark

    I am afarid that is a few to many.
    I will remove Probopass because it to has poor HP, and i will put in Skarmory. I will also add Spiritomb, but there probably is a pokemon with better defense.

    So Far:

    Dusknoir@ Leftovers
    Nature:
    -Pain Split
    -Destiny Bond
    -Confuse Ray
    -Shadow Punch

    Blissey@ Leftovers
    Nature:
    -Softboiled
    -Attract
    -FILLER
    -FILLER

    Skarmory@ Leftovers
    Nature:
    -Spikes
    -Whirlwind
    -Drill Peck
    -Steel Wing

    Spiritomb@ Leftovers
    Nature:
    -Curse
    -Confuse Ray
    -Nasty Plot
    -Dark Pulse

    Milotic@ Leftovers
    Nature:
    -Aqua Ring
    -Mirror Coat
    -FILLER
    -FILLER

    I am open to more suggestions. Please look at the team first to make sure you wont add a weakness we already have a few of.
     
    On blissy! to have a good one, have this move set:
    Blissey@ Leftovers
    Nature:
    -Softboiled
    -Attract (no, you might run into female pokemon, the this is pointless) So change it to Toxic!
    -FILLER (Sysmic toss) To do 100 damage!
    -FILLER (Armoatheripy or refresh) To get rid of any status conditions!
     
    garra_of_the_desert said:
    On blissy! to have a good one, have this move set:
    Blissey@ Leftovers
    Nature:
    -Softboiled
    -Attract (no, you might run into female pokemon, the this is pointless) So change it to Toxic!
    -FILLER (Sysmic toss) To do 100 damage!
    -FILLER (Armoatheripy or refresh) To get rid of any status conditions!
    Click to expand...

    uh... no.. Aromatherapy instead of toxic :VVV
    Thunderwave and seimic toss for the last 2 attacks :V

    Toxic sucks on blissey, There is NO reason to put it on her
     
    I strongly recommend Milotic to have her moveset this way...

    - Surf (for Stab)
    - Ice Beam
    - Recover
    - Mirror Coat/Hypnosis

    Aqua Ring is in no way as good as Recover. Without it Milotic will not last too long in battle. Plus you have Leftovers which fill in the same role. Some offense attacks are nice even if your team is a bunch of walls. Surf can smash through anyone who doesnt resist it because she has a pretty over average Special Attack. Ice Beams stop Dragon sweepers in their tracks. Mirror Coats make Special Sweepers think twice. Hypnosis can disable an annoying Pokemon.

    For your last Pokemon I recommend Umbreon. She has a base Defense stat of 110, a base stat of 130 for Special Defense and a base HP of 95. She could be a Toxi-tank meaning she can use Mean Look to trap and opponent and kill them with purple goo. She can also learn Baton Pass and Wish, a viable support member for recovering the teams HP. Her movepool is quite large as the attacks she learns are Confuse Ray, Curse, Fake Tears, Tickle, Wish , Yawn, Taunt and much more. Not to mention she is only weak to fighting and bug types. But even with such a weakness it takes a few turns to knock her out. On the good side she has an immunity to Psychic and resistances to Ghost and Dark.
     
    Ok, time to make some adjustments. After reading your comments, i have some moves to add and change. Thanks to all who posted, and please keep doing so. I will add Umbreon. Thx Punishment. I think that is a good addition.

    Dusknoir@ Leftovers
    Nature:
    -Pain Split
    -Destiny Bond
    -Confuse Ray
    -Shadow Punch

    Blissey@ Leftovers
    Nature:
    -Softboiled
    -Toxic OR Thunder Wave
    -Aromatherapy
    -Seismic Toss

    Skarmory@ Leftovers
    Nature:
    -Spikes
    -Whirlwind
    -Drill Peck
    -Steel Wing

    Spiritomb@ Leftovers
    Nature:
    -Curse
    -Confuse Ray
    -Nasty Plot
    -Dark Pulse

    Milotic@ Leftovers
    Nature:
    -Recover
    -Mirror Coat
    -Ice Beam
    -Surf

    Umbreon@ Leftovers
    Nature:
    -Mean Look
    -Toxic
    -Confuse Ray Or Baton Pass
    -Wish

    I cannot decied to keep Toxic or Thunder Wave for Blissey and Confuse Ray or Baton Pass for Umbreon. Please post an argument for one side to make my choice the right one. I also need natures so post more. I am always open to suggestions.
     
    Thunder Wave for Blissey because she needs it to outrun her opponents. Umbreon can take care of toxicating. Baton Pass over Confuse Ray because Umbreon is slow so you would want it to take a hit for a Pokemon so the one coming in can get Wish and wont be hit. Not to mention you want to lock your opponent in with Mean Look while toxicating and Baton Pass posses that over.

    Natures for Milotic is Bold or Calm. Skarmory is Impish and Blissey and Umbreon Bold.
     
    Thx again Punishment. I now have some of the Natures. We will go with Thuder Wave and Baton Pass. I think we have a really good team coming along.

    So Far:

    Dusknoir@ Leftovers
    Nature:
    -Pain Split
    -Destiny Bond
    -Confuse Ray
    -Shadow Punch

    Blissey@ Leftovers
    Nature: Bold
    -Softboiled
    -Thunder Wave
    -Aromatherapy
    -Seismic Toss

    Skarmory@ Leftovers
    Nature: Impish
    -Spikes
    -Whirlwind
    -Drill Peck
    -Steel Wing

    Spiritomb@ Leftovers
    Nature:
    -Curse
    -Confuse Ray
    -Nasty Plot
    -Dark Pulse

    Milotic@ Leftovers
    Nature: Bold
    -Recover
    -Mirror Coat
    -Ice Beam
    -Surf

    Umbreon@ Leftovers
    Nature: Bold
    -Mean Look
    -Toxic
    -Baton Pass
    -Wish

    Continue to post. We still need Natures for Spiritomb and Dusknoir. I am always open to comments.
     
    For Skarmory you may want to go with Rest/Roost instead of Steel Wing. A recovery move would make it last way longer in battle.
     
    Good Idea Punishment. Keep them coming. I am also going to start an overall best Team thread. Look for it.

    So Far We Have:

    Dusknoir@ Leftovers
    Nature:
    -Pain Split
    -Destiny Bond
    -Confuse Ray
    -Shadow Punch

    Blissey@ Leftovers
    Nature: Bold
    -Softboiled
    -Thunder Wave
    -Aromatherapy
    -Seismic Toss

    Skarmory@ Leftovers
    Nature: Impish
    -Spikes
    -Whirlwind
    -Drill Peck
    -Roost

    Spiritomb@ Leftovers
    Nature:
    -Curse
    -Confuse Ray
    -Nasty Plot
    -Dark Pulse

    Milotic@ Leftovers
    Nature: Bold
    -Recover
    -Mirror Coat
    -Ice Beam
    -Surf

    Umbreon@ Leftovers
    Nature: Bold
    -Mean Look
    -Toxic
    -Baton Pass
    -Wish

    I am always open to new suggestions
     
    Will-o-wisp on Dusknoir maybe a good idea. It burns the opponenet for damage while cutting their attack stat in half.
     
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