DavyJones4our
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Because until I get an answer from the Anime or movies, I'm still sticking with the theory that it's Giovanni.
I don't think people i nthe pokemon world have fathers, becasue they don't have sex, other then the pokemon and with other pokemon.Because until I get an answer from the Anime or movies, I'm still sticking with the theory that it's Giovanni.
I don't think people i nthe pokemon world have fathers, becasue they don't have sex, other then the pokemon and with other pokemon.
Hey buddy, u given here very interesting answer.
I don't think people i nthe pokemon world have fathers, becasue they don't have sex, other then the pokemon and with other pokemon.
what makes u say giovanni? i remember when Ash first arrived at viridian city Deliah said something about how it took four days to get there, my theory is that Ash's dad is either gone, or the champion of the pokemon world or something to that effect
What about Norman? Wasn't he May and Max's father?
And Prof. Oak is Gary's grandfather. And Brock's dad was on the show (though not his mom...hmm..........).
Either way I think Delilah (Ash's mom) got drunk at a bar, Giovanni being the sly-cat that he is, charmed her with suave words, went back to her place, went crazy like wild Lopunnys and left without ever giving her any way to communicate back and collect child support.
Giovanni, you're an inspiration to us all!
:t306: That smiley is so awesome...
I don't know exactly, I've just had a gut feeling for many years. It seemed right in the Kanto series. Main good guy, Ash, and it just so happens that the main bad guy, Giovanni, are Father and Son, and yet, neither know this fact.
It just seems like it would make sense. Many other people feel that the "Giovanni being the father" is a likely theory as well. Like I said, it just makes sense to me.
What about Norman? Wasn't he May and Max's father?
And Prof. Oak is Gary's grandfather. And Brock's dad was on the show (though not his mom...hmm..........).
Either way I think Delilah (Ash's mom) got drunk at a bar, Giovanni being the sly-cat that he is, charmed her with suave words, went back to her place, went crazy like wild Lopunnys and left without ever giving her any way to communicate back and collect child support.
Giovanni, you're an inspiration to us all!
:t306: That smiley is so awesome...
Well, DavyJones4our, it's ultimately your opinion. but, I just want to say that I don't think that they have confirmed that Giovanni is Ash's father. If anything, considering how Mewtwo Returns had Ash and Giovanni not even recognizing each other, I think the writers confirmed that Giovanni ISN'T Ash's father. I mean, even IF Giovanni did impregnate Delia without knowing it, I think he would have had SOME recognition of Ash.
I mean, Darth Vader (at least, before the prequel trilogy, it most likely was retconned by the time episode III was made, like all of the other things in the original were) didn't seem to know that his wife was pregnant (Obi wan said something along the lines of "When your father left, he didn't know that your Mother was pregnant with twins" in "Return of the Jedi"), and yet, he seemed to recognize Luke Skywalker as his son despite that. If Darth Vader could do that, then Giovanni could most CERTAINLY do that as well.
Also, it can't be Professor Oak, either, since, if it was him, then Gary Oak would be Ash's nephew, and there's no way that they could be uncle and nephew since they are of the same age.
Also, in case anyone mentions Silver, I just want to mention that he most likely recognized Ash from watching a Pokemon League broadcast (Hey, Max was able to recognize Ash from the Pokemon League, and he was 2 years younger than him (4-5 years younger for those of you who insist that he has Aged.)
I'd say that it is some random trainer. Also, he might just make an appearance. Time length doesn't eliminate the possibility of him arriving. Remember, Brock's Mom appeared 5 years after her first mention (9 years if you don't want to count "A family that Battles together, stays together." as an actual episode.), so if they could give Brock's Mom an appearance after so many seasons, they can most CERTAINLY give Ash's father an appearance on the show. Plus, didn't a PUSA representative once mention that Ash's father will appear in the D/P series in one convention?
I know they never confirmed Giovanni as Mr. "Ketchum", but that makes sense with Mewtwo, even still though. One could go with the psychology that Mewtwo wasn't noticing or paying attention, trying to gain the superiority complex of "Humans all look the same to me" kinda deal.
Anakin knew he had 1 Child on the way, but he had no idea he had 2 children on the way. Also, you must realize that trying to do Star Wars recognizing children with real life recognizing, the force is in one, and not the other. It's not all that uncommon for a parent and child to meet (regardless of age) and carry on with their lives unknowing that they're each other's flesh and blood. I'm sure that would apply with Pokemon as well (I think the writers are just doing a really good job hiding it from the childrens).
And it totally could be Prof. Oak, just because his son had a kid (Gary) doesn't mean ol' Samuel couldn't pop a nice little blue pill once in a while. (Phil Sebben: HAH HAH, Viagra!)
Also, I was unsure if that episode featuring Brock's mom had aired yet, so I played it safe. Either way, it shows, Pokemons and Humans alike. One Night Stands do happen.
What does Mewtwo have to do with this, aside from being the focus of the special? I mean, Mewtwo didn't even think that way. In fact, considering how the Pikachus AND Mewtwo itself released itself from the traps, and how Mewtwo was almost dead as a result, He could barely even think. I mean, Giovanni went to the breakout of Mewtwo, and he went to Ash and Co. and he acted as though they were pests, and didn't act as though he recognized any of them, Especially Ash.
Maybe, but I think he would still notice these things, In fact. considering how Domino Told Giovanni Ash's name when they captured the Kids in the same special (In the Japanese version, at least), and he still didn't recognize him, that gives some credence that he isn't even his father.
sigh... Ash would have to be older than Gary in order to be his uncle. Look, I have a friend who is an uncle, he is in his teens and he is at least a year younger than me, and he became an uncle at least four to five years ago. In order for someone to be an uncle, they need to be older than the Nephew, It's Biologically impossible for the uncle and the Nephew to be the same Age (not counting Adoptions, of course)
It HAS aired already. Both ones. the Hoso was aired 5 years ago, and the Battle Frontier episode aired at LEAST one year ago.
For the win....Nerevarine!I think that Ash's dad was the result of a canceled subplot to the anime. So they just retconned him as an easter egg
LAWLZ with the James thing. XD I died that was great. But alas, no way.its either giovanni, james, (uh huh ashs mum had a boy toy ;)) professor oak , silver (from the anime) or garys father
sigh... Ash would have to be older than Gary in order to be his uncle. Look, I have a friend who is an uncle, he is in his teens and he is at least a year younger than me, and he became an uncle at least four to five years ago. In order for someone to be an uncle, they need to be older than the Nephew, It's Biologically impossible for the uncle and the Nephew to be the same Age (not counting Adoptions, of course)
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