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Team Building

DayDreamer

Pokemon Gamer
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    I've thought up a team and just wanted to see how everyone else thinks of it. Bear in mind I haven't decided on what items they will hold yet and I'm only half way to getting it cause I need to breed most moves. Also I need suggestions on a sixth pokemon. Ideas in EVs are good too. Soz for all the hassle.

    Umbreon;
    Toxic
    Mean Look
    Substitute
    Wish
    I chose wish over moonlight because it has more PP and can help other members of the team. It's half a tank and half a annoyer really.

    Omastar;
    Rain dance (combined with swift swim)
    Surf
    Spikes
    Ice Beam
    With rain dance and swift swim speed ain't much of a problem. Plus ths helps Surf. Omastar is mainly my Spiker but it's also there for special sweeping.

    Torkoal;
    Rest
    Yawn
    Flamethrower
    Amnesia
    An overall Tank here.

    Gengar;
    Mean Look
    Will-o-wisp
    Confuse Ray
    Shadow Ball
    This is my main annoyer. With mean look it's unavoilable :dead: .

    Dragonite;
    Ice Beam
    Focus Punch
    Earthquake
    Thunder Wave
    Thunder Wave is so Dragonite gets an advantage in speed. He's mainly my Physical sweeper, Ice Beams there to get rid of other dragons that may be a threat to him.
     
    Umbreon- what wish cannot do is that it cannot restore status like rest. Substitute... I really don't see the point of that one. Confuse ray, charm, curse, return (just for the sake of doing something) or baton pass over that.

    Omastar- though Omastar is one of the best rain dancer, your entire team got no other usage of rain dance... and in fact hinders Torkoal badly. I'll take HP Grass over rain dance and use Omastar as a general special sweeper instead with minor phyiscal tanking ability.

    Torkoal- 1 attack is never efficient for a tank... Take off amnesia for another attack (physical or special, up to you I suppose)

    Gengar- annoying? yes... can it live long to annoy? no...

    Dragonite- take off thunderwave for sub, as what's good about dragonite compare to Salamence (the so-called superior form of Dragonite) is actually the fact that it's slower. Abuse the fact that it's speed is right in between fast sweepers and tankers in order to pull off substitute for status blocking (Weezing and Dusclops) to subpunching. Substitute over thunderwave. If you arent' thrilled about subpunch, then keep thunderwave but take off focus punch as well for HP Flying, brick break or thunderbolt.
     
    mr mime would be pretty good, it has high sp attck, sp def, good speed and can baton pass too. give it sub, psychic, clam mind,baton pass.
     
    frostweaver said:
    Umbreon- what wish cannot do is that it cannot restore status like rest. Substitute... I really don't see the point of that one. Confuse ray, charm, curse, return (just for the sake of doing something) or baton pass over that.
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    Yeah wish can't heal statuses but thats where substitute comes in. It can block the status effects and by the time the opponent destroys the sub, Toxic has killed them working with mean look. So there :P
    Example;
    1st turn: sub
    2nd turn: wish
    3rd turn: mean look
    4th turn: toxic
    5th turn: re-sub or wish
    etc... Works OK to me!

    frostweaver said:
    Omastar- though Omastar is one of the best rain dancer, your entire team got no other usage of rain dance... and in fact hinders Torkoal badly. I'll take HP Grass over rain dance and use Omastar as a general special sweeper instead with minor phyiscal tanking ability.
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    I haven't got a sixth pokemon yet so maybe IT can make use of rain dance.
     
    Using one move slot for the task of healing is better than using two in most cases.

    Edit:

    Porygon2 is an execption to the rule, where you may want to use Recycle and Rest with a Lum Berry.
     
    with Umbreon's slow speed, you honestly think that your sub will go first and block the toxic...?
     
    mr. mime is a good pokemon, he can also use sub, and if necessary, he can use thunder to go w/ raindance.
     
    DayDreamer said:
    Yeah wish can't heal statuses but thats where substitute comes in. It can block the status effects and by the time the opponent destroys the sub, Toxic has killed them working with mean look. So there :P
    Example;
    1st turn: sub
    2nd turn: wish
    3rd turn: mean look
    4th turn: toxic
    5th turn: re-sub or wish
    etc... Works OK to me!


    I haven't got a sixth pokemon yet so maybe IT can make use of rain dance.
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    Look out, Snorlax is switched in... Your gonna got owned...
    1st turn: sub
    Snorlax uses Curse
    2nd turn: wish
    Snorlax uses Curse
    3rd turn: mean look
    Snorlax uses Curse
    4th turn: toxic
    Snorlax is uneffected, Snorlax uses Curse
    5th turn: re-sub or wish
    Snorlax uses Focus Punch, Umbreon has either fainted, or is dying.

    This Umbreon is owned by almost any standard, Lax, Weezing, Skarm is all over yo and, anything with higher speed and Sub makes you look like a fool...
     
    I gotta throw my patent pending Umbreon into the mix:

    Umbreon@Leftovers
    EV: 252 HP, 129 Def, 129 Sp Def
    Nature: + Def/Sp Def, - Att
    Snatch
    Baton Pass
    Moonlight/Wish
    Bite/Crunch

    Hard to use, but a marvellous surprise. Gets owned by Taunt abusers however, so be careful (other Umbreons and Gyarados are the main threats)
     
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