team help appreciated =]

[blackpill]

lonely banette ♂ [insomnia]
ev @ atk & spd
. shadow ball
. return
. thunderwave
. destiny bond

modest vaporeon ♂ [water absorb]
ev @ hp & spatk
. surf
. ice beam
. substitute
. wish

adamant crobat ♂ [inner focus]
ev @ atk & spd
. aerial ace
. sludge bomb
. toxic
. whirlwind

modest houndoom ♂ [early bird]
ev @ spd & spatk
. crunch
. flamethrower
. solar beam
. sunny day

modest gardevoir ♂ [synchronize]
ev @ spd & spatk
. psychic
. thunderbolt
. calm mind
. rest

lonely primeape ♂ [vital spirit]
ev @ atk & spd
. brick break
. rock slide
. earthquake
. bulk up

team is really hard to put to sleep :classic:. if you have a question about why i did something...do ask. otherwise...please rate how it stands.

also...i could reverse and have vaporeon be the toxi-sweeper rather than crobat.

which would then be...

vaporeon ♂
ev @ hp & spatk
. surf
. toxic
. roar
. wish

crobat ♂
ev @ atk & spd
. shadow ball
. sludge bomb
. aerial ace
. confuse ray

which works better? crobat or vaporeon as toxi-sweeper? i chose crobat over vaporeon because of...obviously, speed.

 

[Spike Razzor]

Crobat + Toxic is bad. If something with Lum Berry gets hit they will just figure it out and send out something like Lax and start attacking you. Also, Ninjask + Something with high Atk could sweep your team if Vaporeon faints, Hazing Crobat would be much better, atleast you could waste it up and start sweeping.

 

[blackpill]

i did have haze on crobat before.

someone on another board told me it was an extremely stupid idea to have a hazebat...and i listened =(

so you think i should keep a hazebat?

i'd throw away confuse ray...crobat isn't designed to last very long.

also, even if they send out something like snorlax, i could whirlwind away and still toxicate the rest of the team. =d...it's designed to toxi-sweep.

 

[Xilion_Sword90]

Whirlwind always stikes 2nd and Crobat could get Returned to death by Snorlax on that turn...

Choice Banding Crobat is a good choice (I think...)

 

[Toothache]

Banette - I prefer something of an annoyer for Banette:

Banette@Lum Berry
EV: 129 Att, 252 Speed, 129 Def
Nature: + Att/Speed, - Sp Att
Spite
Shadow Ball
Knock Off
HP Fighting/Rock

Vaporeon - I'd rather stick some form of hitting Water types. Go with

Vaporeon@Petaya Berry
EV: HP up to 404, rest in Sp Att and Sp Def
Nature: + Sp Att, - Att
Ice Beam
Surf
HP Electric
Substitute

Pseudo boltbeam fun.

Crobat - Not a fan of CB Crobat personally, so easy to mess them over.

Crobat@Lum/Liechi Berry
EV: 252 Att, 252 Speed, 6 Def
Nature: + Speed, - Sp Att
Shadow Ball
Toxic
HP Fighting
Aerial Ace

Houndoom - give him Flash Fire, makes for extra Fire protection

Houndoom@Petaya/Lum Berry
EV: 252 Sp Att, 252 Speed, 6 Sp Def
Nature: + Sp Att, - Att
Pursuit/Crunch
Flamethrower
Sunny Day
Solarbeam

Gardevior - no problems there

Primeape - guess it works, although I doubt Primeape has the defence to survive long enough to speedsweep. Primeape has just enough speed to Subreversal though...

Primeape@Salac Berry
EV: 252 Att, 252 Speed, 6 Def
Nature: + Att, - Sp Att
Substitute
Reversal
HP Ghost
Rock Slide

 

[Frostweaver]

Banette- the problem is that it's still not that fast, which is a major problem. It can't survive a hit, and its speed is only decent. Personally, I like knock off on it against tankers, or some sort of an annoyer that really don't rely on physical sweeping. It's very difficult to sweep with a speed like that, yet not having a real charming attack power either.

Vaporeon- you WILL want haze/roar instead of sub... better believe it. Crobat is a terrible hazer. Vaporeon on the other hand, is excellent. Vaporeon is a great tanker, with the best anti-calmcune ability ever.

Crobat- much better to use the standard 4 sweeping move (or one of them being quick attack) than this. Crobat really shouldn't be stalling with a speed and attack that's born to sweep. Choice band or not is up to you.

Houndoom- use pursuit over crunch... pursuit got a wicked ability that can decimate your opponent if used right (pursuit will definitely be used more if only there are other dark types that can actually sp.sweep)

Primeape- you will want to use cross chop over brick break, as the power difference is just too great. I don't think that Primeape can use earthquake... If you get access to Hidden Power, then use HP Ghost for that slot. Otherwise, return.