Theory about Ash

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    Ash is Arceus. It'd make sense.

    1. He's absolute hax in pokemon. Especially AIM FOR DA HORN
    2. He sees more rare pokemon in his short time as a trainer than a random 1,000,000 chosen people have in the whole pokemon world.
    3. He has no father. His mother found him in a multidimensional rift.
    4. He seems to remember Mewtwo even though no one else does.
    5. He would sacrifice himself for any pokemon (Mew vs. Mewtwo) even though no one else would.
     
    But somehow he manages to lose every Region League tournament
     
    AlphaGamma said:
    Ash is Arceus. It'd make sense.

    1. He's absolute hax in pokemon. Especially AIM FOR DA HORN
    2. He sees more rare pokemon in his short time as a trainer than a random 1,000,000 chosen people have in the whole pokemon world.
    3. He has no father. His mother found him in a multidimensional rift.
    4. He seems to remember Mewtwo even though no one else does.
    5. He would sacrifice himself for any pokemon (Mew vs. Mewtwo) even though no one else would.
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    So explain to me how he witnesses Arceus exploding in a nuke like fashion when the dragons attack it in movie 12.(scene from preview)[/thread]
     
    Easy. That is himself from the future. Arceus is the pokemon god, technically. He can be everywhere at once. Sometime in the future, Ash will tap into his power, realizing who he is. He then realizes what he saw, and in order to keep the future the way it was, he goes back to that moment.

    Edit: Another way he can hack the nature of Pokemon with his god powers is Thunder Armor. There is no way that could have happened. But, Ashceus made it so by changing their nature, imbuing in them the power to do it.
     
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    AlphaGamma said:
    Easy. That is himself from the future. Arceus is the pokemon god, technically. He can be everywhere at once. Sometime in the future, Ash will tap into his power, realizing who he is. He then realizes what he saw, and in order to keep the future the way it was, he goes back to that moment.
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    Hahaha,no. The ash we know did not come from the future. he is the same one in movie 12. The Arceus in movie 12 has been sleeping for centuries possibly a millenium or two so it is not possible that he has time travelled. When coming up with wacky fan ideas and theories do the research and make sure you know about your stuff.
     
    Todoroki Is said:
    Hahaha,no. The ash we know did not come from the future. he is the same one in movie 12. The Arceus in movie 12 has been sleeping for centuries possibly a millenium or two so it is not possible that he has time travelled. When coming up with wacky fan ideas and theories do the research and make sure you know about your stuff.
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    Obviously you've never seen DBZ. Cell doesn't return to the exact moment that he needs to defeat the Z Fighters, he travels back in time a bit and sleeps first. Gets strength. Ashceus obviously wouldn't travel right to the exact moment he gets destroyed, he travels back a few millenniums, and then wakes up in time for it.
     
    And finally, there is all these psychic connections with his pokemon. Psychic connections that are far stronger than any human can muster. He even goes inside a dream to see what Lavitar is feeling, a pokemon not even his own. Who else can do that but a pokemon god, one that is of no type but yet is of all types?
     
    Ash is well aware that the meaning of life is the same as the answer to life, the universe, and everything. 42.
     
    brock and misty were in larvitar's dream too...Ash's father was mentioned in like the second episode of the show and of course he's gonna see so many rare pokemon(MOVIES DON'T COUNT) if he's the main character on the show. He was just an average trainer who used to win by luck but over time developed skill. Are you serious?
     
    When they mentioned his father, they could easily have been talking about an adopted father. Yes, they could have been talking about a biological father, but it isn't *specified*. As well as the mother. Unlike Rosa, who was it was said was in labor with Ceodore for half a day, it never says with Ash. Also, who says that movies don't count? Show me any post where it says the movies are not canon. Also, Mew is said to only show herself to those who are pure of heart. Ash sees her, proving that he is pure of heart. No human can ever be pure of heart. That is impossible. However, a God can be pure of heart.
     
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    I think you are looking into things too much. This is the world of Anime. If they want to make a human pure of heart they can. Its not like our world were things work logically and all. It just won't make sense going by your track of thought. So I just say whatever. They won't do anything like that.
     
    True, movies aren't canon but the point of movies are to let fans see their favorite lengendaries in action. And, let me see, Team Rocket, Brock, Misty, Max, May, and every trainer from the first movie have seen a Mew. But you lost me with Rosa and Ceodore...
     
    Rosa and Ceodore are from Final Fantasy IV: The After Years. My point is, that it hasn't specifically said that Ash is their child from birth, as it did with those two. Also, yes. Maybe everyone has seen Mew from the first movie, but no one remembered Mew but Ash, even though he did only remember it vaguely. That is shown in the second movie that has Mewtwo in it.
     
    1. He's absolute hax in pokemon. Especially AIM FOR DA HORN
    2. He sees more rare pokemon in his short time as a trainer than a random 1,000,000 chosen people have in the whole pokemon world.
    3. He has no father. His mother found him in a multidimensional rift.
    4. He seems to remember Mewtwo even though no one else does.
    5. He would sacrifice himself for any pokemon (Mew vs. Mewtwo) even though no one else would.
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    1) That was in the earlier series. Now he just wins in bullshizz ways by spinning.
    2) So? What does that have to do with being Arceus?
    3) Yes he does. His father was only mentioned one time, however, in the second episode.
    4) I'm sure Takeshi and Kasumi do as Mewtwo didn't take away their memories as well.
    5) I'm sure other people out there would. Due to being selfless, Satoshi does this more often than his friends. However, his friends have sacrificed themselves to save their Pokémon (See Lucario and the Mystery of Mew). Mind, they didn't even have to. XD​
     
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    1) That was in the earlier series. Now he just wins in bullshizz ways by spinning.
    2) So? What does that have to do with being Arceus?
    3) Yes he does. His father was only mentioned one time, however, in the second episode.
    4) I'm sure Takeshi and Kasumi do as Mewtwo didn't take away their memories as well.
    5) I'm sure other people out there would. Due to being selfless, Satoshi does this more often than his friends. However, his friends have sacrificed themselves to save their Pokémon (See Lucario and the Mystery of Mew). Mind, they didn't even have to. XD​
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    1. Still doesn't take away my point about the utter hax of it all.
    2. Legendaries of course would flock together, would see other legendaries more than humans would.
    3. As I said, it may or may not be an adopted father.
    4. Mewtwo erased everyone's memories of the event in the first movie. However, Ash seemed to remember Mewtwo a bit in the beginning of the second movie with him in it.
    5. Ash seems to go above and beyond sacrificing himself. Yes, the man in that movie did too, but Ash has done it in nearly every movie to some extent. He puts himself in extreme danger more so than others. Almost as if he believes he is indestructible. Which, if he were Arceus, he would be fairly indestructible. Not 100%, but fairly.
     
    All of those things have just about simple answers. Ash in Lavitar's dream, was the work of Unown, who hit Misty on the head. They wanted to know the reason why Lavitar always cringed in fear, and Unown witness it so it showed it to them by letting the trio go into Lavitar's dream.

    Mewtwo said back in Mewtwo Returns that he wasn't going to erase their memories like he did before. Meaning, Ash, Brock and Misty all remember him still.

    In Mastermind of Mirage Pokemon, If I remember correctly Mew showed itself to Ash and Misty first, but I think it was Max who spotted it before Misty's battle. Then everyone else later. They even mention at the end of it, that the Mew had a true heart like a living breathing Pokemon. So that one could possibly have just the same thing as only coming to those with a pure heart.

    Like ShinjisLover said, all his friends would sacrifice their lives for their pokemon just like in Lucario and the Mystery of Mew. Max wouldn't let anyone hurt Jirachi after it was proven that Butler was the bad guy nor would May with Manaphy. Misty almost sacrifice her life for her Gyrados. (Can't think of nothing for Brock and Dawn at the moment....)

    The father thing is still hard to go after though. In the original it was stated that it was his grandfather, but English dub changed it to his father.

    The Psychic connection...umm hello Jirachi chose who as his friend? Not Ash, but Max. Not so chosen one after all is he? What about that Dexoys? Max too...now hold on is Max an Acreus too? (jk thats off topic)

    And the Thunder-Armor? Dawn came up with her own move, Ice Jet, but of course Ash was the one to finally make it work with Buizel after he obtained it.

    Sometimes half the time in some episodes, they don't even remember what happened in a movie. But of course the movies are non-canon. And why wouldn't Ash see so many Legendary Pokemon? That would make the show boring if we just saw so many Legendary Pokemon popping up, but never get to see any appear. That'd be lame.

    Ash didn't remember Mewtwo at all at the beginning of the second movie. He thought he saw something at the end of the first movie which was Mew in the clouds. Of course Misty and Brock said they didn't see anything, which made Ash start to believe the same too. BUT they did all see Mewtwo escaping from Giovanni back near the end of Season 1. And no Legendary pokemon stay together, they all like to be solitary. Most of them that come together end up causing destruction in their path. Only the mother Lugia and her baby Lugia Silver has proven this different, but I'm sure there's no way their together now. They've probably went seperate ways.

    I think this is all I can say at the moment, but if I think of more I shall return!:rambo:
     
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