Umbreon or some other form

Johny_Hungry

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    Ok, so now im considering using one of the Evee stages, and the problem is, i don't know who to go with. Umbreon, Jolteon, or one of the newer ones?

    I really don't know much 'bout the new ones, and don't know if they blow so much that it isn't worth the time, or if they are worth the time, but would be completely different from an Umbreon or Jolteon.

    Anyway, all i really want to know, is what move sets and which pokemon would you suggest [ev's the whole shabang]
     
    The shizno shiznit Umbreon hey?

    Umbreon @ Leftovers
    Bold
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 6 SDef
    -Mean Look
    -Baton Pass
    -Confuse Ray / Toxic / Dark Pulse
    -Wish
     
    Here's the Umbreon I use as an opener. It's served me well:

    Umbreon @ Leftovers (F)
    Impish
    EVs: 120 hp, 252 defense, 136, special def
    *Taunt
    *Moonlight
    *Mean Look
    *Baton Pass

    I've seen Umbreon (very common on Shoddy), Jolteon (supposably OU), Vaporeon (very strong imo), Glaceon, Leafeon and I think Espeon (useless poke imo). Flareon feels left out lol.
     
    Umbreon (sadly) fails in 4th gen, as staraptor, Vire, Heracross...they all smash it.It can't really stand up to specsmence either. Jolteon is pretty good, but I personally think vaporeon works as the best eeveelution to use.
     
    Glaceon, Leafeon and Espeon

    What would ppl suggest for them?
    I like the 1st Umbreon might go with that first one that was posted.
     
    It really all depends on what you're looking for... Umbreon is a wall (and a good one at that), Vaporeon is a great bulky water, Jolteon, Espeon and Glaceon are special sweepers (and I think Ice is actually one of the better attacking types), Leafeon is more of a physical sweeper, as is Flareon (and I never realized how insane Flareon's Attack is: base 130!).

    But yeah, it all depends what you're looking for. In my personal opinion, Umbreon can be the most menacing of the group, with his notorious toxi-trapping signature. Vaporeon does well too, with access to Acid Armor. Jolteon is the more common special sweeper of the bunch (although I've seen Glaceon more frequently), and Flareon you never see. But if I recall, all of them can learn Baton Pass.

    So, I pose the question, what do you look for in a Pokemon? That'll help answer the question as to which is best for your team.
     
    Richard Steel said:
    It really all depends on what you're looking for... Umbreon is a wall (and a good one at that), Vaporeon is a great bulky water, Jolteon, Espeon and Glaceon are special sweepers (and I think Ice is actually one of the better attacking types), Leafeon is more of a physical sweeper, as is Flareon (and I never realized how insane Flareon's Attack is: base 130!).

    But yeah, it all depends what you're looking for. In my personal opinion, Umbreon can be the most menacing of the group, with his notorious toxi-trapping signature. Vaporeon does well too, with access to Acid Armor. Jolteon is the more common special sweeper of the bunch (although I've seen Glaceon more frequently), and Flareon you never see. But if I recall, all of them can learn Baton Pass.

    So, I pose the question, what do you look for in a Pokemon? That'll help answer the question as to which is best for your team.
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    Well, i'm not much for walls really. I love power, either psycial or special. so if that is any help, then, i would greatly love some suggestion on Glacieon, Leafeon, Espeon, Vapreon, and Jolteon. Possibly Flareon [sence no one use's 'em... seems like something i should venture into :P]

    Yeah, so if that'll help shoot away with suggestions... i only need to fill 'bout a couple more spaces in my team, so yeah...
     
    Johny_Hungry said:
    Well, i'm not much for walls really. I love power, either psycial or special. so if that is any help, then, i would greatly love some suggestion on Glacieon, Leafeon, Espeon, Vapreon, and Jolteon. Possibly Flareon [sence no one use's 'em... seems like something i should venture into :P]

    Yeah, so if that'll help shoot away with suggestions... i only need to fill 'bout a couple more spaces in my team, so yeah...
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    team w/ no walls= fail...
     
    Johny_Hungry said:
    Well, i'm not much for walls really.

    Good luck.

    I love power, either psycial or special. so if that is any help, then, i would greatly love some suggestion on Glacieon, Leafeon, Espeon, Vapreon, and Jolteon. Possibly Flareon [sence no one use's 'em... seems like something i should venture into :P]

    Note vaporeon is a tank/wall too, same with leafeon...

    Yeah, so if that'll help shoot away with suggestions... i only need to fill 'bout a couple more spaces in my team, so yeah...
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    Vaporeon is (IMO) the best eeveelution ,especially with that insane HP...
     
    Umbreon@Leftovers
    Trait: Synchronize
    Nature: Bold
    EVs: 252 HP / 172 Defense / 80 SDefense
    - Mean Look
    - Baton Pass
    - Wish
    - Substitute / Taunt / Confuse Ray

    Just a heads up, EVERY good team requires a Special Wall and a Physical Wall.
     
    Azonic said:
    Umbreon@Leftovers
    Trait: Synchronize
    Nature: Bold
    EVs: 252 HP / 172 Defense / 80 SDefense
    - Mean Look
    - Baton Pass
    - Wish
    - Substitute / Taunt / Confuse Ray

    Just a heads up, EVERY good team requires a Special Wall and a Physical Wall.
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    Umbreon needs max defense or it gets smoked like a sausage. I know...*sob* because I tried...
     
    Breed enough so you can all of them.
     
    pokemaster000 said:
    Breed enough so you can all of them.
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    He just needs one, FYI.


    Glaceon can Special Wall/attack, with some hax from Snow Cloak and Blizzard spamming.

    Glaceon @ Leftovers / Icy Rock
    Trait: Snow Cloak
    Modest / Calm Nature
    - Hail
    - Blizzard
    - Wish
    - Shadow Ball / Water Pulse

    Shadow Ball would be fun to use, but you can run Water Pulse to try and counter TTar and Hippow.


    Leafeon on the other hand can Physical Wall/attack, using Leaf Blade as well as a couple of other good moves like X-Scissor, maybe.

    Leafeon @ Leftovers
    Trait: Leaf Guard
    Adamant / Jolly Nature
    - Leaf Blade
    - X-Scissor
    - Aerial Ace
    - Return / Iron Tail

    No Sunny Day. It'll help your enemy's Flamethrowers more than it'll help you.
     
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