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Why Uber Battles are Pointless.

Jas_66

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    Here are all the Reasons:
    1. They don't test you in anyway.
    2. You don't have to think about Movesets, EV's, ECT because they're so overpowerd theres not much thinking involved.
    3. Ubers are Reckless in Battles.
    4. Ubers maybe Strong but there 1 weakness can kill them of.
    5. go into a battle you vs. Ubers and wen u hit a super effective attack see wats more effective ur attack or theres.
    6. Watch videos on Youtube of PBR of People going up against Ubers and deafting them badly.
    7. When in battle its not fun! they're not half as fun because the pokemon can't be varied much (Pogosheep)

    can u think of any reasons?​
     
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    Uber battles are pointless, yes. hey're not half as fun because the pokemon can't be varied much. My friends who are noobs at pokemon think that ubers are the best -__- Jokes on them haha
     
    thnx for the info wolflare.

    lol pogosheep ur friends are funny!
     
    I would agree with you if you by "pointless" meant "These creatures are way to overpowered, even trying to control one of them might make a mere mortal, such as I, shiver, lose consciousness, and possibly die, so why should I bother even thinking about controlling and commanding up to SIX of them?"

    But obviously you don't, so well.
    You can probably tell that by their sheer power, the Uber Pokemon is UBER for a reason - they are beastly stat wise, and in most cases they've got a move pool to follow too. (Apart from Manaphy, that is)
    But since you will be going up against opponents who are willing to use the exact same Pokemon against you, it all comes up to strategy, careful planning, and prediction - just as any other Pokemon match within the tiers, with slightly more oomph.

    Oh, and the last time I checked, the only Reckless Pokemon is Hitmonlee ;)
     
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    Jas_66 said:
    Here are all the Reasons:
    1. They don't test you in anyway.
    2. You don't have to think about Movesets, EV's, ECT because they're so overpowerd theres not much thinking involved.
    3. Ubers are Reckless in Battles.
    4. Ubers maybe Strong but there 1 weakness can kill them of.
    5. go into a battle you vs. Ubers and wen u hit a super effective attack see wats more effective ur attack or theres.
    6. Watch videos on Youtube of PBR of People going up against Ubers and deafting them badly.
    7. When in battle its not fun! they're not half as fun because the pokemon can't be varied much (Pogosheep)

    can u think of any reasons?​
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    1. Yes they do. In competitive battles (i.e. Shoddy), the Uber tier is very hard to play in, since you need to adapt your strategy to beat certain Pokemon. For instance, you would monopolize on Dark and Rock-type attacks in Uber because of the great amount of Pokemon weak to those types.

    2. Yes you do. You need to tailor your movesets very carefully to match the Pokemon's strengths. For example, Lugia is best described as a tank. Giving it stupid stuff like Surf or Aeroblast would be rather pointless. You also need to derive counters to certain Uber Pokemon which have a set strategy, like Deoxys.

    3. This is no different than in OU play. In OU, most of the Pokemon are reckless attackers, while the others are meant to support them. In Ubers, you get a different amount of Pokemon, like Garchomp or Deoxys-A which use their attacking strength like mad, while you have stuff like Infernape or Scizor in OU, and Tauros and Zangoose in UU. Ubers have a distinct strategy. If you play OU and you try to counter the same Pokemon in Ubers as you did in OU, chances are you will lose against veteran Uber players.

    4. Same as OU. Hippowdon may be a great tank, but he is easy to set up on. Smeargle may be a great Baton Passer, but he has mediocre defenses. Scizor may be extremely powerful, but he's 4x weak to Jibacoil's Hidden Power. Starmie and Gengar may be great special attackers, but they fall prey to Pursuit. The list goes on.

    5. That is because their base stats are higher. This is also the basis for why they are split into tiers -- Uber and OU are not meant to play together.

    6. Yes, you can also beat Gyarados with a level 1 Rattata @ Focus Sash, Quick Attack and Endeavor.

    7. Ubers have more diverse movesets out of most Pokemon in OU. You can expect every Gengar to have Shadow Ball and Thunderbolt, but you can never predict what Mew or Mewtwo will have up its sleeve.

    8. You can use Mesprit, Uxie, Shaymin, etc. in UU play. They still aren't that good.
     
    Lightmare i get u mean and the first paragraph to typed is wat i mean well sort of anyways. u get the point.

    Gymnotide - well Shaymin has equal stats on SMOGON SO GIVE IT EV's in every stat but shaymin is an equal pokemon it doesn't have good stats in certain places like aggron really good at defence bliessy really high stats in HP.
    BUT Uxie or AZELF 1 OF THOSE ARE REALLY GD IN BATTLES!
     
    Well, no one can say that uber battles are TOTALLY pointless, because they aren't. It's just that unwise players use ubers as monsters in battle than what each of them are meant for.
     
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    Lightmare i get u mean and the first paragraph to typed is wat i mean well sort of anyways. u get the point.

    Gymnotide - well Shaymin has equal stats on SMOGON SO GIVE IT EV's in every stat but shaymin is an equal pokemon it doesn't have good stats in certain places like aggron really good at defence bliessy really high stats in HP.
    BUT Uxie or AZELF 1 OF THOSE ARE REALLY GD IN BATTLES!
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    The fact of the matter is that you aren't supposed to mingle tiers. OU will always beat UU/NU and Uber will always beat OU.

    I have NO idea what you meant by that Shaymin paragraph. Yes, its stats are well rounded, but that's also true of Arceus, Mew, Celebi, Jirachi, Manaphy, etc. Arceus, Mew, and Manaphy are Uber tier and Celebi and Jirachi are OU tier. Also, putting equal EVs in every stat is the most stupid thing you could do to your Pokemon, especially something like Shaymin.

    Aggron is terrible at defense. He's 4x weak to Fighting and Ground and has a weakness to water. His HP is okay at best and he can't really do much with his slowness. Blissey... Was just Blissey. She's an odd one.

    Also, just because Shaymin's base stats are exactly equal doesn't mean it can fulfill a variety of roles. Shaymin is basically only good at Special attacking or support.

    Yes, Uxie and Azelf are good, but Uxie is in the UU tier, below Azelf. Azelf is not an uber either.
     
    but if u use trick room aggron will be faster!
    i think the best steel type is metagross from my point of view.
     
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