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    Empoleon (male) @ Leftovers
    Torrent
    Quiet
    EVs:? (Please reccomend)
    Ice Beam
    Surf
    Stealth Rock
    Roar

    Flygon (female) @ Chioce Scarf
    Levitate
    Jolly
    EV's: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
    Dragon Claw
    Stone Edge
    Crunch
    Attract

    Ninetails (male) @ Life Orb
    Flash Fire
    Naive
    EV's: 252 Special Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
    Flamethrower
    Energy Ball
    Hypnosis/Confuse Ray
    Nasty Plot

    Dusknoir (female) @ Leftovers
    Pressure
    Sassy
    EV's: 252 HP, 132 Defense, 120 Special Defense
    Shadow Sneak
    Will-o-Wisp
    Thunder Punch
    Pain Split

    Zangoose @ Choice Band
    Immunity
    EV's: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
    Close Combat
    Crush Claw
    Slash
    Swords Dance

    Jolteon @ Scope Lens
    Volt Absorb
    EV's: 252 Special Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
    Thunderbolt
    Thunderwave
    HP Ice/Water/Grass
    Shadow Ball

    Sort of expiramental, but I really like them.
     
    Empoleon (male) @ Leftovers
    Torrent
    Quiet
    EVs:? (Please reccomend)
    Ice Beam
    Surf
    Stealth Rock
    Roar
    No idea on this one

    Flygon (female) @ Chioce Scarf
    Levitate
    Jolly
    EV's: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
    Dragon Claw
    Stone Edge
    Crunch
    EQ
    Attract+Choice Scarf? What good is attracting something twice? EQ please

    Ninetails (male) @ Life Orb
    Flash Fire
    Timid
    EV's: 252 Special Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
    Flamethrower
    Energy Ball
    Hypnosis/Confuse Ray
    Nasty Plot
    Fine, just change the nature

    Dusknoir (female) @ Leftovers
    Pressure
    Careful- When you have an unused stat you may as well reduce that instead. Same goes for Ninetales
    EV's: 252HP,72Def,180SpDef
    Shadow Sneak
    Will-o-Wisp
    Fire Punch
    Pain Split
    Mostly fine, just change EVs. Because you have will-o-wisp their attack stat will be halved, so more SpDef. Fire punch works better IMO

    Zangoose @ Choice Band
    Jolly
    Immunity
    EV's: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
    Close Combat
    X-Scissor
    Return
    Shadow Claw
    Two moves of the same type? Nonono this isnt one of the situations where that would work. Return over both, dont put trust in their effects. Night slash over regular slash to hit ghosts. And swords dance on a choice set? Jolly please, its speed is a bit below par for a sweeper.

    Jolteon @ ??? (Scope lense is a hax item, find out the standard item)
    Modest
    Volt Absorb
    EV's: 252 Special Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
    Thunderbolt
    Thunderwave
    HP Ice
    Shadow Ball
    Its ok i suppose

    Sort of expiramental, but I really like them.

    Changes in bold. It's mostly just silly mistakes like stat moves on choice sets and badly picked natures. The problem is they're the things that are gonna get you. Switch empoleon for a wall, or use the walling set (Whatever it is, i hate the penguin)
     
    mostly everything has been covered. but for Jolteon I suggest

    Jolteon @ Life Orb
    Timid
    252 sp.atk/ 252 spd/ 6 Hp
    Charge Beam
    HP [ICE]
    Shadow Ball
    Roar

    Roaring with a Jolteon works wonders, it forces out the enemies gyarados or other physical wall that jolteon will own. porpably. Skarms, Donphans and Gyaras. Shadow Balls for funny timid Alakazams and the such.
     
    Needs moar walls. Give this spread to your Empoleon: 252 HP/ 252 SDef/ 6 SAtk to turn it into a good special wall. And take out one of your Choice sweepers for a good physical wall. Swampert would be a good choice, as it can help with the Vire weak.
     
    mostly everything has been covered. but for Jolteon I suggest

    Jolteon @ Life Orb
    Timid
    252 sp.atk/ 252 spd/ 6 Hp
    Charge Beam
    HP [ICE]
    Shadow Ball
    Roar

    Roaring with a Jolteon works wonders, it forces out the enemies gyarados or other physical wall that jolteon will own. porpably. Skarms, Donphans and Gyaras. Shadow Balls for funny timid Alakazams and the such.

    I beg to differ. Jolteon has a mighty 130 speed. with maxed EVs put in that nature boost can be shipped off elsewhere, namely his SpAtt. And charge beam is a bit meh on a poke who's SpAtt already starts high, if your unlucky enough notto hit the boost you're left with 3 not overly powerful attacks. Thunderbolt is a safer option IMO
     
    I beg to differ. Jolteon has a mighty 130 speed. with maxed EVs put in that nature boost can be shipped off elsewhere, namely his SpAtt.

    Okay no no no no no no no. Just no. Jolteon NEEDS Timid nature just like Gengar needs his. Otherwise you get outran by A TON of stuff. That's like saying "Hey, Snorlax already has might HP, SDef, and Atk! Let's put those EVs into Def. Spd, and Satk!" Yeah then snorlax would be useless.

    And charge beam is a bit meh on a poke who's SpAtt already starts high, if your unlucky enough not to hit the boost you're left with 3 not overly powerful attacks. Thunderbolt is a safer option IMO

    Safer but maybe not better. APvire (My Electivire) runs Charge Beam and it totally outperforms Thunderbolt. Jolteon doesn't even have great special attack (good, but not great) and sometimes it really needs that boost.

    Modest Jolteon sucks.

    Also you could have just given the standard item for Jolteon which obviously is Leftovers.
     
    Well, Focus Sash is there for a reason.
    when that happens, or when I get outsped. it's sp.atk @ timid will start @ 319 that is if u have 31 IV's in it and ev trained it in sp.atk on a nuetral nature.
    even with the boost. 350 sp.atk. Get a poryong I say. However on timid nature you get a speed of 394. now that is something to talk about. outspeed the fastest of Weaviles, and maybe a ScarfHera that doesnt have full IV's. (since with scarf and full ivs on adamant he gets 403)
     
    Well, Focus Sash is there for a reason.
    when that happens, or when I get outsped. it's sp.atk @ timid will start @ 319 that is if u have 31 IV's in it and ev trained it in sp.atk on a nuetral nature.
    even with the boost. 350 sp.atk. Get a poryong I say. However on timid nature you get a speed of 394. now that is something to talk about. outspeed the fastest of Weaviles, and maybe a ScarfHera that doesnt have full IV's. (since with scarf and full ivs on adamant he gets 403)

    Um nothing has focus sash here ._. focus sash is a disgrace to pomemon anyways.

    Though actually roar is not to be used on Jolteon. Taking away it's greatest asset is foolish and soon things will just start directly attacking you before getting roared away.
     
    about the focus sash, that was something I did in the thread I posted so I got confused.
    Also, his speed is too high to be outsped by anything here man. Unless it was scarfcross or scarfhera, you cant really outrun this, unless you were a ninjask.
     
    Um nothing has focus sash here ._. focus sash is a disgrace to pomemon anyways.

    Though actually roar is not to be used on Jolteon. Taking away it's greatest asset is foolish and soon things will just start directly attacking you before getting roared away.

    Most pokemon, anyways. Some likes to abuse it. Good ole SpikesRock, Focus Killer since 2006.
     
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