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4th Gen Complaints thread

What Odd Egg did you get in Crystal?

  • Pichu

    Votes: 24 11.4%
  • Igglybuff

    Votes: 29 13.7%
  • Cleffa

    Votes: 26 12.3%
  • Magby

    Votes: 27 12.8%
  • Elekid

    Votes: 31 14.7%
  • Smoochum

    Votes: 31 14.7%
  • Tyrogue

    Votes: 27 12.8%
  • I didn't have Pokemon Crystal.

    Votes: 84 39.8%

  • Total voters
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"Shadow Lugia"

Haven't used this in a while
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    I'm starting to get annoyed at the people who are complaining about complainers. They're telling people who have a single problem with the game to get out of the forum. They've pretty much been saying like it all or get out. This was an actual quote from someone in another topic:

    adapt or die
     
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    I'm starting to get annoyed at the people who are complaining about complainers. They're telling people who have a single problem with the game to get out of the forum. They've pretty much been saying like it all or get out. This was an actual quote from someone in another topic:


    You'd think people would have learned to accept the fact that others have different opinions than they do...I guess not. For a while it seemed as though there were as many threads complaining about the "complainers" as there were actual complaint threads. :-/
     

    Zelda

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    I don't really have anything to complain about. We only recently got some news about this remake and everything seems to be fine right now.

    As for a lot of the people complaining about the girl I don't see nothing wrong about the way she looks...to me she looks like a girl working on a farm with cool overalls...more Johto-like.
     

    ckret2

    usually pronounced "secret 2"
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    The new girl character fills my soul with rage, hate, and the hellfire of undying wrath.

    Half because I just don't like her. Half because she just isn't Kris.

    That is all.

    I don't really have anything to complain about. We only recently got some news about this remake and everything seems to be fine right now.

    As for a lot of the people complaining about the girl I don't see nothing wrong about the way she looks...to me she looks like a girl working on a farm with cool overalls...more Johto-like.

    ... Then why are you in the complaint thread? To complain about the complainers? What's wrong with leaving us to our discontented grumblings in peace? That's what this thread's for.
     
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    Poliwagged

    is waggin' his tail
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    Because the complainers are usually complaining about such trivial things and giving bad answers as to why you're complaining about that certain aspect like "baw, she's not kris, I automatically hate her".


    She's not Kris, so what?
    Kris wasn't a very good character to begin with. She was a carbon copy of Gold pasted on to a female body.

    Look past that and stop comparing them, maybe you'll get to like her.
    If not, well have fun living in the past, because I'm not gonna.
     

    Akira Uchiha

    Akatsuki Shinobi! ^^
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    *facepalm* okay. Everyone has different opinions? Please don't get mad at people for expressing them? lol. Krys was fine. I actually like the new Gold design better than the old one. I already posted how I felt about the new girl. And... the stereotypical "pink for girls" is REALLY annoying me, just like it did in DP.. DX I think already posted about this, but I really need to emphasize it ^^
     

    ckret2

    usually pronounced "secret 2"
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    She's not Kris, so what?

    So, she's not Kris; for some people, that's justification enough. Personally, I also think the new character's outfit is ugly, which has nothing to do with her predecessor.

    This is called the complaint thread, right? Must all complaints be soul-shattering large concerns, or even rationally justified? Because I was under the impression that this was the thread where one comes to complain about whatever's annoying them and get it off their chest without having to defend themselves to other people. So say someone does just despise the new character entirely because she isn't Kris and they want to gripe about it somewhere that they don't have to feel pressured to justify their personal opinions. Logic dictates they would funnel their complaints into the "complaint thread," does it not? After all, it isn't titled "The Official HG/SS complaint thread, where you post your complaints as public targets for people who disagree with you to sneer upon your personal opinion and act like their optimism about whatever-you-don't-like is somehow inherently superior to your misgivings." Granted, that would be a long title. But you get the idea. It isn't even "The Official HG/SS complain-about-complaints thread."

    Trivial complainers have the rest of the HG/SS board to get picked on by people annoyed at their pessimism. Seriously, now; what's wrong with leaving the complainers in the complaint thread in peace, if you have nothing to complain about except them, despite the fact that they are in this thread doing exactly what they're supposed to be doing?
     

    Poliwagged

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    It just peev's me that people are so quick to their opinions. We've asked for these remakes for a long time, and now that we've got them, we've already got a complaints thread up?
    Just kind of proves that people are expecting too much of a "port" and not enough of a "remake"

    We barely know anything about this girl, and we already know that Sugimori's designs have gotten really far off as of late, her in game design could be a redemption for her.
    Like how the D/P/Pt trainers looked far better in-game than they did in their Sugi art.
     
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    I can't really complain just yet, since we don't really know enough about the games to really complain. But going with what I know...I dislike the female character. I would be alright with her but...that marshmallow hat...ditch the hat, and I would be pleased.
     

    "Shadow Lugia"

    Haven't used this in a while
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    It just peev's me that people are so quick to their opinions. We've asked for these remakes for a long time, and now that we've got them, we've already got a complaints thread up?
    Just kind of proves that people are expecting too much of a "port" and not enough of a "remake"

    We barely know anything about this girl, and we already know that Sugimori's designs have gotten really far off as of late, her in game design could be a redemption for her.
    Like how the D/P/Pt trainers looked far better in-game than they did in their Sugi art.
    I hear you, but when there's almost as many posts complaining about other people complaining as there are negative posts about the remakes, then it's not a good sign.
     

    Finnel

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    Kris wasn't a very good character to begin with. She was a carbon copy of Gold pasted on to a female body.

    Complaints thread


    I'm... Sorry, what? The only thing they both have in common is the obligatory anime spiky hair and colour scheme, but the Gen 3 trainers shared colour scheme as well. Could you please explain how in the hell Crystal is Gold's female clone?
     
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    It just peev's me that people are so quick to their opinions. We've asked for these remakes for a long time, and now that we've got them, we've already got a complaints thread up?
    Just kind of proves that people are expecting too much of a "port" and not enough of a "remake"

    We barely know anything about this girl, and we already know that Sugimori's designs have gotten really far off as of late, her in game design could be a redemption for her.
    Like how the D/P/Pt trainers looked far better in-game than they did in their Sugi art.

    IMO, it's much easier to criticize the games based on the snippets that we've seen so far than to declare it the best Pokémon game of all time based on those same snippets. The thing is, most of the things people are likely to complain about ARE little things like getting rid of Kris, but I'm willing to wager that most of the people that are complaining about the game in this thread will eagerly get the game when it comes out and will probably enjoy it. I think it's better that we get most of the complaining out now, in small bits and pieces, rather than all at once when the actual game comes out.
     

    Poliwagged

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    Complaints thread


    I'm... Sorry, what? The only thing they both have in common is the obligatory anime spiky hair and colour scheme, but the Gen 3 trainers shared colour scheme as well. Could you please explain how in the hell Crystal is Gold's female clone?

    I was giving a loose and slightly humor-induced generalization.
     

    Finnel

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    Bashing a character for stupid reasons and not even explaining why.
    At least you didn't completely mean it, but I'm not sure if that's better or worse.

    I realize I'm being a complaint-complainer-complainer now, eh.

    Let's just get on with the complaining.
     

    Magician Of Ice

    Berry & Contest Master @-,-'--
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    GAIZ KRYSTAL'S GONE OMG. THIS. IS. SERIOUS. BIZNESS!

    Haa, okay so I agree with everyone else that says her appearance was better than the other female's, but all in all I don't have a beef with HG/SS. I'm running into a problem though... Lugia is my favorite over Ho-oh, but I don't yet own a Ho-oh, so I don't know which to buy :[.
     

    Poliwagged

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    Bashing a character for stupid reasons and not even explaining why.
    At least you didn't completely mean it, but I'm not sure if that's better or worse.

    I realize I'm being a complaint-complainer-complainer now, eh.

    Let's just get on with the complaining.

    I jest.
    Kris wasn't bad, but neither is the new girl.

    People just seem to have trouble getting over the fact that Kris isn't in it(and with it, their wet dreams of nostalgia are gone), thus bashing the new girl in every way possible. From reasonable complaints like design, or just absurd like "she's not kris OMG AUTOSUX" or "those little black straps bother me, so I hate her as a whole!".

    I'll admit I wasn't a fan of her design when I saw her, but after a while of people shoving pics down my throat, she grew on me.
     

    Psyburn

    Is not Kazaam
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    Its a complaint thread, therefore I figured everyone was allowed to beef in here. Meaning you, poliwagged, are out of line here in terms of telling people to shut up and deal with it.

    And I believe everyone has explained why they do not like the female character enough as it is. If their reasons do not sit well with you, then who cares? I've had beef with people bashing the Wii because of their graphics, but I got over it because people care about looks. I care about designs of characters and I have to say they ALL took a nosedive after GenIV. The Gym Leaders aside from Volkner (and Candice imo...due to hot dreams :P) look absolutely dreadful, and Flint of the Elite Four looks like Ronald McDonald knocked up somebody and didn't claim the child. Granted, Sydney and Phoebe both looked stupid enough as E4 members. And then the main male character looked absolutely ridiculous in platinum. Its like seeing someone trying to mix old age pirates with sneakers and a bad hat. I do NOT enjoy playing with a character like that. Call me shallow, idc. Breandan looked good in both RS and E, so what happened to the decent design? And considering this is a remake, a LOT of people wanted designs of characters that aren't completely drastic in terms of clothing or what not. Gold (fan name?) looks identical to his older self in the originals. Krys (fan name?) looks NOTHING like the original character and worse, looks so stupid its beyond belief. Her change is very drastic to the point where Sugi and Taji seemed to be on a drinking binge when they made her, but was sober enough to spare Gold's design.

    Nostalgia may cloud some people's judgment from time to time (Megaman 9 is crap and people bash naysayers all the time) but hey, its a remake. Some people don't want complete overhauls of everything they felt was good about the originals. For example, I dont want to deal with Honey Trees in an updated version of a great game I enjoyed in my youth. Why? Because back in those games, Heracross was a beast. And still is. I don' want to have to go through six hours to try and get another one. People dont want the looks of characters changed too drastically because they want at least SOME resemblence to the original characters. Most of the peeps here are cool with Gold's design because its not a drastic change from his older counterpart. A lot of people here are not cool with krys's because of the opposite. Red in FRLG is a drastic change. He looks less like he did in RGBY. But imo, since it's not a BAD design, its nothing I got worked over about. Krys's new design...ugh.

    You look at Resident Evil's remake on the Cube, the designs of the characters were updated, BUT they stayed intact for the most part. There were no drastic changes in designs. Bomberman Act Zero? GOOD GOD!

    Good character design (to me) goes a long way into the appeal of a game, and I doubt I speak for everyone when I say DPP is crap in that department. I DO NOT want Silver (fan name again :P) to get a bad treatment in this regard. Green/Blue from FRLG wasn't a bad design (though I missed the longer sleeves and un-inverted clothing colors) and retained most of his appeal from his original counterpart, so thats what I want for Silver, and yes I WILL be vocal about that if they possibly F his design up.

    Also, whoever said "adapt or die", my god...

    Its like people are simply defending the character because people are complaining about it sometimes.

     
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    Akira Uchiha

    Akatsuki Shinobi! ^^
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    ^that is what I was trying to say, only they stated it much better. Although in DPP I actually liked Dawn's design, though not lucas's. Silver(the character) I don't really care about, unlike a lot of people, so it doesn't bother me that much if they change him a bit. But the new girl is changed from Krys to the point where she ISN'T her anymore... its sad. And I won't complain about her anymore because I'm sure it's annoying you guys XD.
     
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