LGBT (Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transexual) anyone?

[Fox♠]

@Fox- Thats because you attack her with it




Whatever, Idc what I screamed that made people run away. I'm just gonna ignore Fox and others like that from now on, that should make him happy at least.

I didn't start off with any attacks, but recieved nothing but abuse back. Now I know how Dr King Jr felt against the walls of oppresion he had to break through.

 

[Feign]

Can't say that I've properly got my "gaydar" in tune yet. Though of course there are the more obvious ones (that probably everyone recognizes nonetheless).

Though, I was working at the till the other day (at work of course), and the gestures (facial even), and body language this one cute guy was displaying, suggested to me that there could have been something else on his mind (at the very least). This can be highly misinterpreted though, so I didn't say or do anything. XD (especially being on the job, I don't think my manager would appreciate me trying to get dates XD)

 

[.little monster]

@Fox- Thats because you attack her with it




Whatever, Idc what I screamed that made people run away. I'm just gonna ignore Fox and others like that from now on, that should make him happy at least.

I saw no attacking from his side to be honest.

Can't say that I've properly got my "gaydar" in tune yet. Though of course there are the more obvious ones (that probably everyone recognizes nonetheless).

Though, I was working at the till the other day (at work of course), and the gestures (facial even), and body language this one cute guy was displaying, suggested to me that there could have been something else on his mind (at the very least). This can be highly misinterpreted though, so I didn't say or do anything. XD (especially being on the job, I don't think my manager would appreciate me trying to get dates XD)

I hate when people act like they are gay. Then are like "EW WHAT NO I AINT NO F-" ;-;

 

[Harmonie]

I seriously think we need to stop debating in this topic. It was obviously meant to be solely a support topic, and I think it should stay that way!

 

[Feign]

Lol I've maybe only met one person who probably was gay in every way, except for sexual preference (whoever gets that reference wins a cookie).

The guy that I mentioned above, didn't have any indicators of being gay, but rather at least seemed to act differently around me. Like I said, I could easily misinterpret that, I just felt like sharing it. XD

 

[.little monster]

I seriously think we need to stop debating in this topic. It was obviously meant to be solely a support topic, and I think it should stay that way!

This.

So, has anyone ever had a friend completely stop talking to you because of you being yourself?

 

[Esper]

This.

So, has anyone ever had a friend completely stop talking to you because of you being yourself?

I came out to my closest friend two weeks ago and he hasn't returned my calls since then. I'd assume he's not interested in talking to me anymore, but he's gay so it's not like he should have a problem with it.

People are so difficult to understand sometimes.

 

[.little monster]

I came out to my closest friend two weeks ago and he hasn't returned my calls since then. I'd assume he's not interested in talking to me anymore, but he's gay so it's not like he should have a problem with it.

People are so difficult to understand sometimes.

Maybe he just likes you and is too nervous~ <3

 

[Harmonie]

I came out to my closest friend two weeks ago and he hasn't returned my calls since then.

Aw now I feel bad. D:

People are so difficult to understand sometimes.

Lol yeah. My sister has broken my brain, as I mentioned earlier. Absolute ridiculousness. What she did goes beyond mere insensitivity or ignorance, it was just a total jerkish thing to do. For that reason I think I'll be able to confront her about it soon.

Problem is I think she's going to come live wish my parents and I again... >_<

I do not want to have to deal with that to be honest.

 

[kevcrash]

I came out to my closest friend two weeks ago and he hasn't returned my calls since then. I'd assume he's not interested in talking to me anymore, but he's gay so it's not like he should have a problem with it.

People are so difficult to understand sometimes.

Yeah, like when other gay people aren't okay with you being gay? I don't understand it really. Or maybe he just is nervous because he likes you

 

[Esper]

Yeah, like when other gay people aren't okay with you being gay? I don't understand it really. Or maybe he just is nervous because he likes you

Except I'm trans, not gay. So I don't think he's suddenly crushing on me unless I don't know him as well as I think I do.

@Envy: I got the impression your sister lived with you. I'm sorry you might have more ignorance and jerkishness than usual to deal with. Maybe being around you more will help change her mind, show her she's being a jerk, that sort of thing.

 

[Harmonie]

She actually lived with us temporarily after I came out to her. She showed no acknowledgment to me having come out to her or having accepted it. (obviously)

 

[IceSage]

If you don't want to talk about your orientation that's your choice, but if you don't want to talk about what we're talking about why are you in here telling us not to talk about it?

I'm not, you're misreading my posts. I simply offered my opinion on that fact that I personally think that announcing or talking about sexual preference out of the blue, is rather redundant. People constantly feel the need to announce this, but there's very little reason to do so, except a few self-esteem or social interaction issues people may have. Nowhere in my posts did I say, or "tell" anyone "not to talk about it." Also, I could talk about my sexual preference, but unless it happens to be either A) A hobby, or B) I'm looking for a date; then there's really no point to it in my opinion.

For example, I don't go around making a topic saying, "I'm straight! Let's talk about being straight!" It really has nothing to do with my personality, or personal interests. People are people, whether they be straight, gay, bi, etc.

There's nothing wrong with it, and people can talk about it however they wish; however I find the need to "make a post about it on the internet" unnecessary.

The only time I can think of in which someone would do that, is if they've recently "come out," or they want to "come out," or they're feel like they need to have the need to socialize with other people who are like-minded in order to feel normal or accepted. Which, leads me to believe that they DON'T feel that way, which I believe is something they need work on, because you shouldn't be embarrassed or uncomfortable with your sexual preference to the point where it's on your mind and bugs you, or that you need to discuss it.

There's also another aspect going around, perhaps not involved in this thread at all (I haven't read all the pages) but there are some people who think it's "cool" or "awesome" to openly talk about sexual preference, or think it's "cool" to be bi, etc. These people also feel the need to constantly share their sexual preference and meet others who are the same. They feel as if it's a cool fad and how they can fit in. This, I believe, makes a mockery of the people who can't control who they're attracted to.

Basically in a nutshell... I don't believe suddenly talking about your sexual preference should be in the same category as talking about your stamp collecting hobby, or how you enjoy Pizza. Honestly, when's the last time you want to a bar or restaurant, talked to someone, and they introduced themselves with, "Hi, I'm Bill. I'm gay. Nice to meet you!"

This thread is in the Other Chat section where people talk about everything under the sun that isn't Pokemon or something that has a board already. Hardly anything on PC needs to be there. This is here because we want it to be here, because we want to talk about things that are LGBT-related and that's a good enough reason to have it.

Like I said earlier, I wasn't in disagreement in the fact that this thread exists, or that people are talking about it; I was just merely offering my personal opinion... Which, actually, falls under the "topic" of the thread, so actually, I'm participating in the thread just the same as everyone else. =P

I'm sorry to misread my posts and read things I never typed. Perhaps glasses are in order?

 

[Esper]

@IceSage: You were saying you didn't see a point in anyone telling anyone else their orientation, etc. I'm glad you do see the benefit in having a thread like this for people who are in the closet, about to come out, or recently out. That's something you would have done well to add to the "I just don't see the point of announcing it constantly, or on forums" line you made. I'm also glad you think being queer is not something someone should feel uncomfortable about, but did it occur to you that in order for some of us to feel comfortable with ourselves we seek out people who'll be understanding and accepting and that we might use a forum full of people to do so? I know a lot of this thread has been full of silly stuff, but throughout all that we have actually talked about coming out and the troubles some of us are having relating to it.

 

[pokejungle]

IceSage I'm not going to bother replying to your post based on the merits of discussion sexuality openly, but just make an appeal to you based on the fact that many of us LGBT people have felt extremely ostracized, afraid to be ourselves, afraid that if we told people we were attracted to the same sex we would lose our friends or even family.

It is so important for the mental health of young (or old) LGBT people to talk with each other and create a strong network of friends who love and support each other and we can be who we are around each other.

Your post simply does not take into account the pain and discrimination many of us have faced. Have I gotten shouts of "FAG" thrown at me before when I'm with my boyfriend? Multiple times. Have I gotten sneers for the way I dress or act? Even more times. Do I have friends and family that support me? I thankfully do. Some people don't. Please respect the well being of others and understand that it may be more important than what you feel is appropriate or socially acceptable.

 

[Feign]

That seems to be a common myth (especially among straight folk), that people who know themselves to be gay, should just act natural about it, not tell anyone, but seek out that gay relationship instead... Or something to that effect anyway (sorry if I explained it badly, perhaps someone can clarify).

In a perfect world where no discrimination, no prejudice etc occurs, yes this does make sense, but we have yet to attain such a stage.

 

[Taemin]

For example, I don't go around making a topic saying, "I'm straight! Let's talk about being straight!" It really has nothing to do with my personality, or personal interests. People are people, whether they be straight, gay, bi, etc.

Maybe some of the people in this thread just wanted a place to post where they know other people would relate to them in some way? Being gay/bi/transgender is far from the norm, as far as a lot of society is concerned (unfortunately), and when people are out-casted for any reason, they want to find a place where they talk to people whom they relate to. It's the same thing as some people joining PC in general, just so they have some place to talk about Pokemon and relate to others, because maybe everyone they know in their lives looks down on them for being into Pokemon. Just sayin'.

It makes sense that there are no "Hey, I'm straight!" threads, because being straight is 'the norm', and people would look at you weird if you made a thread like that. >_>

(not meaning to carry on any argument, just getting my two cents into these 37 pages. xD)

 

[Harmonie]

I just don't get how it's so hard to understand that we have this topic not to "brag", but instead for support.

A fair number of people do not have support in real life, so finding support online can be a big deal.

For the longest time I believed that I would never find any at all. When I found some support online, I realized that maybe things weren't as bad as I originally believed they were and I started coming out to my real life friends.

Without the internet I might have never gained enough confidence to come out to anybody in real life. Because really, before I found out that others like me existed on forums and that there were people that were supportive that were not like me, I really believed that supportive people were extremely rare and I'd never find a single person.

You could say I was kind of an idiot, but... you have to understand, I live in the South.

 

[FreakyLocz14]

"Gaydar" is a myth. It's based on stereotypes.

Sure you can easily recognize some of the glaringly obvious homosexuals based on sterotypes, but many of the "straight-acting" ones will slip right under your nose.

 

[Feign]

I'd just think you'd need some really refined person (or someone with visual acuity, among other things) to recognize flirtatious behaviour, or something similar. XD