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Pinkie-Dawn

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    From the same thread, the Riddler mentioned a rumor from March and how some of the things listed from it are true. Here's the March rumor:

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    We can cross off the gym rumor as fake to start things off.
     

    clbgolden

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    Is it bad I don't really want the Battle Frontier these games? I mean, I'm sure the place is cool, but I'm not really a fan of when GF reuses Battle Facilities. I'd rather have a Battle Frontier clone or something.

    Pinkie-Dawn said:
    From the same thread, the Riddler mentioned a rumor from March and how some of the things listed from it true. Here's the March rumor:

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    Wasn't that coconut Koala a false rumor from some time ago?
     
    Rivvon

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    >bug,water,fighting,steel,electric,fire,fairy,dark gyms
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    If only they listed Grass, this actually could have worked as Trial Captain Types...

    >champion Red from Gen 1 gives guidance throughout the game
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    I can't imagine Red giving anyone guidance considering his only character trait is that he speaks in ellipses.

    >main rival (opposite gender) sides with villain team for 2/4 of game
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    I'm really hoping we get another rival at this point, but if not, I actually really want this to happen with Hau...

    >lots of Gen 1 pandering
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    Oh shoot this one's real!
     
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    I suppose Gyms could co-exist with Trial Captains but it's probably very unlikely. There hasn't been any conclusive evidence to prove gyms have been removed from S/M but obviously the Island Challenge system would indicate it replaces them.
     
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    Blue said:
    I suppose Gyms could co-exist with Trial Captains but it's probably very unlikely. There hasn't been any conclusive evidence to prove gyms have been removed from S/M but obviously the Island Challenge system would indicate it replaces them.
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    Well if people can justify a leaker mixing up Fire and Ice-Types on Alolan Ninetales, I think it's safe to say people can easily mix up the idea of Gym Leader versus Trial Captain because they're so similar at their core? To me, what would be important is if the leaker got the Types right as opposed to the title.

    colours said:
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    What?

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    Oh.

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    I feel enlightened already!
     
    Z25

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    The new Riddle Leak is interesting.

    My guess is Rugby Monkey and Battle Frontier returns, mainly because of the leak he mentions. There's a decent list of things we could cross over as not what the leakers trying to get us to see. for example:

    No Gyms

    Pure Grass Line. To simple for it to be brought up.

    Two Kola Points.

    and I'd say Main Rival siding with Villains. Hau could do this, but it make more sense with Lili. But Team Skull is less serious so I don't see either having a valid reason to side with them.

    Also Red doesn't speak.

    That leaves:

    Battle Frontier Pretty Big thing for a leaker to leak, plus not many have. With the teasing in ORAS, and out crys from fans, I'd wager Masuda said since it's the anniversary let's give the fans what they want.

    Dolphin line. This is a fair thing to confirm, most speculate it for Hawaii but we haven't seen one. Wouldn't say the types right though.

    150 new pokemon. I'd be willing to bet that will the Gen 1 pandering already, and it being the anniversary game, that 150 new mons will happen. They'd had 3 years going on 4 by release from what XY hints, so they have had plenty of time to do this.

    Gen 1 pandering. Already confirmed, but again, not worth the leaker bringing this leak up.

    New Engine and New Models. Already confirmed, but again pointless for the leaker to mention this leak.

    Professor Oak returns. Eh, I'd say this is 50/50.We last saw him in HG/SS so he could make an appearance. Plus he has his rottom in the anime and they may reference it. I could also see this go back to Gen 1 Pandering.

    Fire Dark line: Possible. May be something the leaker wanted to mention, but this is an obscure way of doing it. Could reference the leaked Litten Evolution.

    Kahuna Doll Line: Very interesting choice. I'd say this is definitely something the Riddler is hinting at. We have boss Kahunas, the Hawaii theme, several Hawaiian inspired pokemon, so this could be another one. It would fit pretty well. Again, if true type may be wrong.

    That's my thoughts on this latest batch of the Riddles leak. I'm sure Tuesday will show us on of his hints, but until then we wait.
     
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    If Anabel return then I want mainly One thing.
    Anabel receiving a whole new design that actually make her look like a really Attractive girl.
    She was the most amazing girl I have seen on Pokemon anime however it pain me that she look completely like a Guy.
     
    Sabrewulf238

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    I think I'm pretty optimistic when it comes to how many new Pokemon we're going to get, but I just can't see us getting anywhere close to 150 new Pokemon. They can pander to gen 1 just fine without having to introduce the same number of Pokemon again. (Don't get me wrong, I'd LOVE 150 new Pokemon)

    Although just to humour the idea for a minute. I think Black & White introduced around 50 Pokemon before release, which meant there was around 100 Pokemon we didn't know about (or at least weren't supposed to know about) before release. So if nothing else I think that shows that the amount of Pokemon revealed pre-release isn't really indicative of how many new Pokemon we'll get.

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    Where does riddles and even post his stuff?
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    I think he's Chinese, I clicked a link over at Bulbagarden forums and it brought me to a Chinese message board.

    So everything he says still has to be translated anyway.

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    You know that leak the riddler said some of it was true, well somebody posted something interesting on Bulbagarden about it:

    https://forums.bulbagarden.net/inde...iscussion-thread.214874/page-166#post-5966928

    Apparently the riddler said that he was surprised to see something in the leak that was true, and that it was more surprising than Red returning.
     
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    Pinkie-Dawn

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    I've got two new batch of leaks:

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    The first leak defiently didnt give its self much time for itself. Come tomorrow we can debunk a couple of its main points if the middle evolutions and island doesnt come out.
     

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    Pinkie-Dawn said:
    I've got two new batch of leaks:

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    Aside from being from 4Chan, there actually aren't big, glaring red flags from either of these leaks. But regardless, still calling fake.

    (Also, Lyllia is Lillie's Spanish name, for anyone who was wondering)
     
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    >SM demo worldwide on 28th
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    This seems plausible. I have a feeling that they will announce the demo within the next week or so shortly followed by a release around the end of the month. Usually, they aim to release these demos not long after their announcement iirc.
     
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    Sabrewulf238 said:
    Also it seems that he mentioned some Pokemon as families rather than single stage Pokemon. Mimikyu, Salandit, Drampa and Bruxish were all referred to as family. (as in "Mimikyu family, Drampa family" etc) Although that might not mean anything since I think single stage Pokemon are still sometimes called a family aren't they?
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    I got clarification on this from somebody who has been translating what the riddler has been saying:

    https://forums.bulbagarden.net/inde...iscussion-thread.214874/page-167#post-5967073

    So it seems if we're to believe the riddler (and right now I trust them about as much as the other Chinese leak, I mean they've gotten all those riddle pictures right so far) then that means Salandit, Drampa, Mimikyu and Bruxish all have at least one pre-evolution or evolution.
     
    Ducolamia

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    That new leak seems very fishy. I feel it's riding off the popularity of the other leaks mentioned before

    Lillie having a Zygarde Core? Not suspicious considering we've seen the possibility that happening thanks to the anime.

    Starter evolutions revealed tomorrow? Most likely true since it's been teased, but if not, then this just proves this leak even more untrue.

    Alolan Parasect is something I've heard in many other leaks and I don't want to get my hopes up for this, but hey, it's description could be possible.

    The Lillie info seems the most interesting. A secret Identity? Hmmm..

    Overall, this leak has probably made me the least upset so far. Some of the info is plausible, but I can see if it all falls apart tomorrow
     
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    Salandit most probably has an evolution, Bruxish and Drampa probably both have pre-evolutions, though I can't see Mimikyu having either. Mimikyu strikes me as a Pokemon with no evolutions whatsoever.
     
    Pinkie-Dawn

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    Sabrewulf238 said:
    I got clarification on this from somebody who has been translating what the riddler has been saying:

    https://forums.bulbagarden.net/inde...iscussion-thread.214874/page-167#post-5967073

    So it seems if we're to believe the riddler (and right now I trust them about as much as the other Chinese leak, I mean they've gotten all those riddle pictures right so far) then that means Salandit, Drampa, Mimikyu and Bruxish all have at least one pre-evolution or evolution.
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    That contradicts another leak BMGF showed off before (the one that predicted Sandygast and said that Mimikyu and Bruxish will be standalone Pokémon)
     
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