Yes I find it really funny that the arrogant Johto fans think all Hoenn fans are 12 year olds when they are the ones acting like children (being called a 12 yeard old, or anything like that is just a huge insult for me though). Before Sinnoh, Johto was my least favourite game, I loved Kanto, Gen 1 consumed my childhood completely, so to see Gen 2 completely ruin Kanto was so dissappointing (taking out graveyard? seriously?). Johto wasnt horrible, it has nice music and some decent characters, but it is definately not the best region (and as you pointed out, leeched off the popularity that Kanto had)