It's been a while since I did this. This should be fun. Anyway, I'm just going read a post one at a time and decide to comment on it or not. If someone already replied to your post or whatever then you could ignore my comments. Don't really care though. Excuse the spelling mistakes though.
JALEEMEE said:
Well I have been watching the Best Wishes
series in Japanese with English subtitles
and I must say that Ash is pissing me off quite a bit.
For some reason, they make him know nothing about
pokemon again. He is terrible at battling, his pikachu is
super weak against a new starter snivy (wtf), and overall
he hasnt blabbed about his previous wins in other regions.
It's not that they make him know nothing. It's probably that h may be a little too excited over his newest adventure. It's been the same in every region except for Hoenn and maybe one other. Anyway, it's to help the new watchers and players connect with the show better. "Oh! Satoshi is a newbie like me! Kawaii!~"
**also as a side note, I hate when ash gets all the starters on
his team plus a dumb mamepato (the bird one). We already know
the starters and have seen them, I want ash to train at least some
cooler B/W pokemon.
It's called proper advertising especially since Witch and green haired guy don't seem to be doing anything important anyway.
Kirbychu said:
The anime is suppose to be about a 10 year-old boy on his journey to learn how to be a great Pokemon trainer. If Ash already knew everything he wouldn't be learning, now would he?
It's supposed to be about him becoming a Pokémon Master. If he was supposed to be learning, then wouldn't he get this reset in every saga? He didn't get it any besides Unova.
AshPikastar said:
Satoshi has all three Pokemon starters which isn't bad but it would have been nice to see Dento having Snivy while Iris having Tepig instead of Satoshi hogging it all.
If they're not going to significant like May and Dawn were, then thy shouldn't have the starter Pokémon.
He doesn't know much about Pokemon.
Yes he does. Why would you think otherwise?
JALEEMEE said:
But Im saying for us old pokemon fans, it is a bit annoying. I just dont like how they repeat and restart intead of trying to further and pronounce it.
Who cares about the older fans? The show isn't aimed at us anyway. They're just following the games and their rinse and repeat strategy.
The B/W saga is their biggest success in Japan so far
Do you have any proof of this?
ash just looks like a dumba$$ again...
He's always been a dumbass quite frankly.
Mew~ said:
Honestly, about pikachu - I think it would be stupid keeping Pikachu all powerful n' stuff because it would make all the gym leaders way too easy for Ash.
No it wouldn't. The writers could just increase the strength of the Gum Leaders and that's it. Problem solved.
weedle_mchairybug said:
It's actually MORE irritating that he apparently never learned from the previous seasons at all. If he at least kept the basics of the trade up, it wouldn't seem as irritating. Now, he just seems to fleb in regards to even knowing how to throw a pokeball.
He has learned. Really, just because he doesn't use Counter Shield or whatever every other move doesn't mean he hasn't learned anything. Overreacting weedle. :(
He may not have been all that great in the previous seasons, but he at least seemed to be somewhat of a veteran and know how things are supposed to work. This time, however, he seems to be making the exact same mistakes that Dawn, May, and even he made in the beginning of their careers, which isn't good at all, and actually cheapens his so-called veteranishness.
What mistakes? Considering he's encountering all new Pokémon with new abilities and such, it's excusable if he's making any of these mistakes that you say he is doing.
Honestly... It's times like these where replacing Ash actually would have been the better option. So what if people outcried? People outcried about Misty leaving as well, even citing that the shows ratings went down as a result, yet that never stopped the writers from outright ignoring us.
At this point, he's more relate-able to the franchise than Misty or Mewtwo or whatever really. Why throw away a face of a franchise when no one but some old ****s are complaining?
JALEEMEE said:
Exactly, they used to make it so that Ash was the smarter one (who was still learning) and someone else (dawn) was completely new. But now they have that new girl traveling with him who is as dumb as he is. Too much stupidity if you ask me. I mean, I understand if the makers want to point out that "Oh wow a water type should have an advantage over a fire type," but they literally do it 60 TIMES!!! and they make ash not know anything about pokeballs and all that stuff. Like, why is the new girl telling ash he needs to weaken a pokemon, cmon.
Too much stupidity? What? It's clear that he was excited about starting a new adventure. Really, he's ten-years-old. What do you expect from him? To be mature about it and act like a guy he's been through it all? Please.
Kirbychu said:
You know, I actually agree that replacing Ash would be the better option here. It is pretty awkward to see him go from being an outstanding trainer to just another greenhorn.
Once again, why replace a recognizable part of the franchise after fourteen years? There's really no point.
Every generation we constantly hear people say that the new Pokemon games are garbage and change the original formula too much. They go on about how they'll never buy the games, yet they eat it up anyways.
Do you have any proof of this? Or are you basing it off of some random internet morons?
There's also quite a few people who want Ash to leave and like you already said, the writers hardly pay attention to us.
Considering he's still on the show, it must not be that many people in the target area.
JALEEMEE said:
How do you not understand? lets think about this. Ash has the starters on his team right now. Not only does this mean that he intends to keep the pokemon for a long while, but its the 3 main pokemon of the series, I dont see why he would get rid of any of them in the anytime soon.
He probably won't.
Maybe he will switch out mamepato later on (though I doubt it) but as for now he has a semi-full team of pokemon that are pretty boring to me. Instead of having one or two spaces on his team for new, cooler B/W pokemon, he could have had 4-5 spaces if he didnt have all the starters.
They're boring to you but what about other people? they might think those three Pokémon are mega cool. Really, what "cooler" Pokémon would you have given him?
It just seems unrealistic and lame that he has all 3 starters, just take one and find new ones like other trainers lol.
How is it unrealistic? He caught all of them in the wild. What's unrealistic about?
weedle_mchairybug said:
The problem is that Ash still had some basics and memories of his journeys in Kanto and Johto when in Hoenn, even though Generation III was implied to be concurrent with Generation I.
In game canon. Not in animé canon.
Kenshin5 said:
Joking aside, I wouldn't mind if they had Ash retain his pokemon knowledge from every region and actually appear as a grizzled veteran. I am getting rather sick of the dumb down and excuses of why Pikachu gets powered down each region.
He does retain his knowledge. He just catches new Pokémon who don't have as much battling experience as his other "veteran" Pokémon.
If they want to dumb down or have a noob then get a whole new trainer. Marketing will probably not allow this though >_>.
OMG people are catching on.
As far as Ash having 3 starters it seems like lazy writing or at the very least uncreative. Yes he may be able to have a rotation going on throughout the region, but capturing one gives more possibilities outside of the starters which I would like to see.
How is that lazy writing? If the writers give them some back story (Like the have) then it isn't lazy writing.
So what if they change stuff up, would you prefer to keep it the same then have the series go stale?
Keeping stuff the same certainly is working for the animé isn't it?
weedle_mchairybug said:
And anyways, we can't be so certain that marketing won't allow for Ash being replaced. Remember, people also didn't think that Snake of Metal Gear would have been replaced as a main character, yet he did, and had only four games in which he was the actual main character, 4 1/3 if one counts the Tanker Chapter in Metal Gear Solid 2, and did it affect the sales of Metal Gear Solid/Metal Gear for the lack of Solid Snake? No, far from it.
At this point, Ash is probably more recognizable than Snake is. Especially since the franchise Ash is in is more popular internationally.
Plus, even IF the Anime series, for some reason or another, ended up getting cancelled, that does not mean that the Games will be affected. The Mario cartoons, which served a similar purpose, ended up cancelled, yet its cancellation obviously did little to affect the series.
Yeah it can still get canceled. It doesn't stop them from advertising the games anyway.
123wert50 said:
Maybe it's just the jappanese version he's annoying in?
He's annoying in all versions.
Bellacrose said:
Yes it does seem "unrealistic" for him to have all three starters, and he somehow MANAGES to find them out in the wild. SOMEHOW.
Maybe they're are more plentiful in the wild in the animé. I still don't see how it is unrealistic considering the franchise we're discussing here. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's unrealistic.
As you can see, there was another series where they had Kris and that... Dude with the Typhlosion as the chars, but that didn't last long at all.
That was simply a special. it wasn't intended to be a long drawn out series.
It's good to switch the characters up, otherwise they'd become stale and boring. Like Ash. He's that last piece of stale bread nobody wants. :I
If many people in the target audience didn't want him then he wouldn't be there. But he is meaning they may not have any problems with him.
JALEEMEE said:
But as of now, we have to watch many episodes with pokemon I think are overshown.
Just because you think they're overshown doesn't mean that's the actual case.
P.S obviously its my way of thinking dude. Everyone posts their own way of thinking its called an opinion. thats why poeple post stuff, to share their opinion.
Defend your opinion.
Bellacrose said:
I honestly agree with the fact it's weird they give him a bunch of starters. I like it when they don't actually give him all three, maybe just one and give another to the second main char. Except he always gives a chunk of his pokemon away at some point... xD So it makes you wonder if he really will train them...
If they're not going to be important why should the writers give them a starter Pokémon? They did that with Brock and Mudkip in Hoenn and Mudkip didn't get as much attention as Treeko and Torchic did. They fixed that mistake by giving Ash two starters and one to Dawn in Sinnoh.
Also, he hasn't given away a Pokémon since Beedrill in Johto. He doesn't give them away anymore really.