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KorpiklaaniVodka

KorpiklaaniVodka

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    • Jellicent @ Choice Specs
    Trait: Water Absorb
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
    Modest Nature

    - Water Spout
    - Hydro Pump / Scald
    - Ice Beam
    - Shadow Ball

    252+ SpA Choice Specs Jellicent Hydro Pump vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Heatran: 306-362 (79.2 - 93.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
    252+ SpA Choice Specs Jellicent Scald vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Heatran: 222-264 (57.5 - 68.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

    Either move 2HKOes specially defensive Heatran, which can't do squat in return other than Roar it. If it's raining, Hydro Pump OHKOes.

    89% 252+ SpA Choice Specs Jellicent Water Spout (133 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Heatran: 372-438 (96.3 - 113.4%) -- 75% chance to OHKO

    Also take note that unless Lava Plume crits, Jellicent has a chance to ohko it with Water Spout provided it hasn't been weakened.

    Specs Jellicent is meant to be used in rain though, where it can fool opponents into thinking it's running a defensive set, only to be smashed by a poweful choice specs-boosted water-type attack.
     
    Hiatus

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    Counter that Pokémon


    Shaymin @ Life Orb
    Trait: Natural Cure
    EVs: 232 HP / 252 SAtk / 24 Speed
    Modest Nature
    - Rest
    - Seed Flare
    - Hidden Power [Ice]
    - Earth Power

    Knocks it out with Seed Flare without any sort of trouble.

    252+ SpA Life Orb Shaymin Seed Flare vs. 252 HP / 4+ SpD Jellicent: 408-484 (100.9 - 119.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
    252 SpA Choice Specs Jellicent Shadow Ball vs. 232 HP / 4 SpD Shaymin: 147-174 (36.8 - 43.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
     
    Dark Azelf

    Dark Azelf

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    Dragonite@Choice Band
    252 Atk / 252 Speed / 6 Def
    Adamant Nature
    Trait: Multiscale
    - Outrage
    - Earthquake
    - Fire Punch
    - Extremespeed

    Resists or is immune to everything and KO's in return.
     
    Nah

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    -Togekiss w/Leftovers
    Nature: Bold
    Ability: Serene Grace
    EVs: 252 HP, 252 Defense, 4 Sp.Attack
    Moves: Dazzling Gleam, Air Slash, Thunder Wave, Roost


    Is immune to Outrage and Earthquake, while Fire Punch and Extreme Speed are 4HKOs:


    252+ Atk Choice Band Dragonite Fire Punch vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Togekiss: 103-122 (27.5 - 32.6%) -- 72.4% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
    252+ Atk Choice Band Dragonite Extreme Speed vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Togekiss: 110-130 (29.4 - 34.7%) -- 100% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery


    Could just stall out those moves with Roost and paraflinch.
     

    lordfeebas

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    • Raikou w/ Choice Specs
    Nature: Modest
    Ability: Pressure
    4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
    -Thunderbolt
    -Aura Sphere
    -Hidden Power Ice
    -Extrasensory

    Raikou is not only immune to Thunder Wave but takes miniscule damage from anything Togekiss has to throw at it.

    4 SpA Togekiss Dazzling Gleam vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Raikou: 102-120 (31.6 - 37.2%) -- 82.6% chance to 3HKO

    4 SpA Togekiss Air Slash vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Raikou: 47-56 (14.5 - 17.3%) -- possible 6HKO

    252+ SpA Choice Specs Raikou Thunderbolt vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Togekiss: 392-464 (104.8 - 124%) -- guaranteed OHKO

    Raikou outspeeds Togekiss (by a substantial amount) and is able to 1HKO. It can take a Dazzling Gleam to the face and can switch in to 3 layers of spikes as well as stealth rock and still come out alive. Specs Raikou still outspeeds in the condition of sticky web.
     
    Sopheria

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    • Chansey @ Eviolite
    Nature: Bold
    Ability: Natural Cure
    EV's: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
    -Softboiled
    -Aromatherapy
    -Toxic
    -Seismic Toss

    This one pretty much speaks for itself.

    252+ SpA Choice Specs Raikou Aura Sphere vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Eviolite Chansey: 136-160 (19.3 - 22.7%)

    Unless Raikou gets seriously lucky and manages to flinch Chansey with Extrasensory 16 times in a row, Chansey walls Raikou and takes it out in three hits with Seismic Toss.
     
    Nah

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    -Lucario w/Life Orb
    Nature: Jolly
    Ability: Justified
    EVs: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 4 Defense
    Moves: Close Combat, Swords Dance, Bullet Punch, Earthquake

    Is immune to Toxic, and is only 3HKO'd by Seismic Toss. And since Chansey is lacking in Defense EVs, Close Combat sends Chansey to the hospital, not as a nurse, but as a patient.
     
    Zeffy

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    Landorus-Therian (M) @ Leftovers
    Ability: Intimidate
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Spe
    Adamant Nature
    - Stealth Rock
    - U-turn
    - Earthquake
    - Stone Edge

    Landy-t smash!! (Translation: Resists and/or is immune to all of Lucario's attacks and ohkos back with Earthquake)
     
    Sonata

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    Conkeldurr (M) @ Focus Sash
    Ability: Iron Fist
    Nature: Adamant
    EV: 252 Atk/252 HP/ 4 SpD
    - Drain Punch
    - Smack Down
    - Payback
    - Ice Punch

    Successfully counters your Landorus and anything you may try to send in (except fairy of course)
     
    Khoshi

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    Azumarill @ Choice Band
    Ability: Huge Power
    EVs: 180 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SDef / 72 Spd
    Adamant Nature
    - Ice Punch
    - Aqua Jet
    - Play Rough
    - Superpower

    252+ Atk Iron Fist Conkeldurr Drain Punch vs. 180 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 102-121 (26.4 - 31.3%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
    252+ Atk Conkeldurr Smack Down vs. 180 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 77-91 (19.9 - 23.5%) -- possible 5HKO
    252+ Atk Conkeldurr Payback (100 BP) vs. 180 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 76-90 (19.6 - 23.3%) -- possible 5HKO
    252+ Atk Iron Fist Conkeldurr Ice Punch vs. 180 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 68-81 (17.6 - 20.9%) -- possible 5HKO
    walls it pretty well.

    252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Azumarill Play Rough vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Conkeldurr: 560-660 (135.2 - 159.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
    252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Azumarill Aqua Jet vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Conkeldurr: 126-148 (30.4 - 35.7%) -- 41.8% chance to 3HKO
    252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Azumarill Superpower vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Conkeldurr: 249-293 (60.1 - 70.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
    hits it pretty hard.
     
    Zeffy

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    Qwilfish @ Black Sludge
    Ability: Intimidate
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
    Impish Nature
    - Poison Jab
    - Waterfall
    - Spikes
    - Taunt

    Qwilfish is the best

    -1 252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Azumarill Aqua Jet vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Qwilfish: 34-41 (10.1 - 12.2%) -- possibly the worst move ever
    -1 252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Azumarill Play Rough vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Qwilfish: 77-91 (23 - 27.2%) -- possible 5HKO after Black Sludge recovery
    -1 252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Azumarill Ice Punch vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Qwilfish: 43-51 (12.8 - 15.2%) -- possibly the worst move ever
    -1 252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Azumarill Superpower vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Qwilfish: 68-81 (20.3 - 24.2%) -- possible 6HKO after Black Sludge recovery

    oh and

    4 Atk Qwilfish Poison Jab vs. 180 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 200-236 (51.8 - 61.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
     
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    Nah

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    -Gastrodon w/Leftovers
    Nature: Relaxed
    Ability: Storm Drain
    EVs: 252 HP, 252 Defense, 4 Sp.Defense
    Moves: Scald, Earth Power, Recover, Ice Beam


    Gastrodon>Qwilfish
     
    KorpiklaaniVodka

    KorpiklaaniVodka

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    • Celebi @ Life Orb
    Trait: Natural Cure
    EVs: 160 HP / 252 SpA / 96 Spe
    Timid Nature

    - Leaf Storm
    - Giga Drain / Recover
    - Hidden Power Ice
    - Earth Power

    Do I even need to explain?
     

    LightBlast

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    Charizard @CharizardniteY
    Ability: Drought
    Nature: Modest
    Evs: SpAtk 252, Init 252, 6 Spdef

    Fire Blast, Solar Beam, Roost/Flametrower, Focus Blast/Dragon Pulse

    252 SpA Life Orb Celebi Hidden Power Ice vs. 4 HP / 6 SpD Mega Charizard Y: 64-75 (21.4 - 25.1%)

    We all know Fire Blast nukes Celebi.
     
    Hiatus

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    Chansey (F) @ Eviolite
    Trait: Natural Cure
    EVs: 252 HP / 248 SDef / 8 Def
    Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
    - Wish
    - Thunder Wave
    - Seismic Toss
    - Heal Bell

    Sort of difficult coming up with a counter for Charizard Y, haha. Anyway, Chansey should be able to do the pretty well; walls it hard enough, and could eventually stall it out. :]

    252 SpA Mega Charizard Y Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 248+ SpD Eviolite Chansey in Sun: 145-172 (20.5 - 24.4%) -- guaranteed 5HKO
    252 SpA Mega Charizard Y Solar Beam vs. 252 HP / 248+ SpD Eviolite Chansey: 71-84 (10 - 11.9%) -- possible 9HKO

    Chansey Seismic Toss vs. 0 HP Mega Charizard Y: 100-100 (33.6 - 33.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
     

    srinator

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    you should know that charizard can also carry focus blast, anyway


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    Conkeldurr @ Flame Orb
    Ability: Guts
    EVs: 252 Atk / 252 HP / 4 SDef
    Adamant Nature
    - Drain Punch
    - Mach Punch
    - Ice Punch
    - Knock Off

    252+ Atk Guts Conkeldurr Drain Punch vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Eviolite Chansey: 618-728 (87.7 - 103.4%) -- 25% chance to OHKO

    Also note that the burn helps in front of thunder wave
     
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    Chocolate™

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    Azumarill@Choice Band
    Nature: Jolly
    Evs: 4 HP/252 Atk/ 252 Spd.

    Moves:

    Play Rough
    Suerpower
    Waterfall
    Aqua jet​

    252 Atk Choice Band Huge Power Azumarill Play Rough vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Conkeldurr: 510-602 (123.1 - 145.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO

    Azumarill outspeeds Conkeldurr and kills it. If Conkeldurr goes for the Mach Punch then:

    252+ Atk Guts Conkeldurr Mach Punch vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 68-81 (19.8 - 23.6%) -- possible 5HKO
     
    Nah

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    -Qwilfish w/Black Sludge
    Nature: Impish
    Ability: Intimidate
    EVs: 252 HP, 252 Defense, 4 Attack
    Moves: Waterfall, Poison Jab, Pain Spilt, Thunder Wave


    Resists all of Azu's attacks, and:


    4 Atk Qwilfish Poison Jab vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 200-236 (58.4 - 69%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
     
    Dark Azelf

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    Qwilfish is godddd.

    Luxray@Choice Band
    252 Atk / 252 Speed / 6 hp
    Adamant Nature
    Trait: Guts
    - Wild Charge
    - SuperPower
    - Ice Fang
    - Fire Fang

    Poison Jab also has the potential to activate Guts.
     
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