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    Scizor @Scizorite
    Ability: Technician
    EVs: 252 HP/ 252 Atk/ 4 SDef
    Nature: Adamant
    - Bullet Punch
    - U-Turn
    - Aerial Ace
    - Swords Dance

    Mega Scizor sets up and kills with Aerial Ace

    4 SpA Mega Venusaur Giga Drain vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Mega Scizor: 24-28 (6.9 - 8.1%) -- possibly the worst move ever

    +2 252+ Atk Technician Mega Scizor Aerial Ace vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Venusaur: 400-472 (109.8 - 129.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
     
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  • Arcanine @ leftovers
    Ability : Intimidate
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
    Nature:Bold
    -Flamethrower
    -Will'o'Wisp
    -Morning Sun
    -Roar

    Arcanine Ohko's Scizor with flamethrower : 0 SpA Arcanine Flamethrower vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Mega Scizor: 388-460 (112.7 - 133.7%)

    +1 (Intimidated) 252+ Atk Technician Mega Scizor Aerial Ace : 26 - 30.7% + Bullet Punch 13 - 15.3% = 39 - 46 %
     

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    bad set, get owned

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    Heatran @ Air Balloon
    Ability: Flash Fire
    EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 HP / 4 SDef
    Modest Nature
    - Earth Power
    - Fire Blast
    - Will-O-Wisp
    - Flash Cannon

    Arcanine Flamethrower vs. Flash Fire Heatran: 0-0 (0 - 0%) -- aim for the horn next time

    do i need to say anything? lol
     

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    -Gyarados w/Leftovers
    Nature: Adamant
    Ability: Intimidate
    EVs: 156 HP, 72 Attack, 96 Defense, 180 Sp.Defense, 4 Speed
    Moves: Waterfall, Dragon Dance, Bounce, Taunt


    +1 72+ Atk burned Gyarados Waterfall vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Heatran: 174-205 (45 - 53.1%) -- 30.5% chance to 2HKO


    252+ SpA Heatran Fire Blast vs. 156 HP / 180 SpD Gyarados: 83-98 (22.4 - 26.4%) -- guaranteed 4HKO after Leftovers recovery and burn damage
    252+ SpA Heatran Flash Cannon vs. 156 HP / 180 SpD Gyarados: 60-72 (16.2 - 19.4%) -- guaranteed 5HKO after Leftovers recovery and burn damage




    And that's assuming it gets burned on the switch. Otherwise, Gyarados can use Taunt so Heatran don't burn it (it outspeeds by like 9 points or something). I believe I win.
     

    pknight96

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  • Electivire @ Expert Belt
    Adamant Nature
    252 Atk 4 HP 252 Speed
    Motor Drive

    - Wild Charge
    - Earthquake
    - Cross Chop
    - Ice Punch

    Yeah... Electric type does its job here. Electivire's faster, too.
     

    PlatinumDude

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  • Electivire @ Expert Belt
    Adamant Nature
    252 Atk 4 HP 252 Speed
    Motor Drive

    - Wild Charge
    - Earthquake
    - Cross Chop
    - Ice Punch

    Yeah... Electric type does its job here. Electivire's faster, too.

    Not a counter. A +1 Speed Gyarados outspeeds this Electivire and 2HKOes/OHKOes it with Waterfall.

    Anyway:
    Chesnaught:
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    -Spiky Shield
    -Leech Seed
    -Seed Bomb
    -Hammer Arm
    Nature: Impish
    EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 SDef
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Bulletproof

    Chesnaught isn't even 2HKOed by Expert Belt Ice Punch. It can wear down Electivire with Leech Seed + Spiky Shield. Hammer Arm 2HKOes, while Seed Bomb does the same thing after some prior damage.
     

    pknight96

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  • Not a counter. A +1 Speed Gyarados outspeeds this Electivire and 2HKOes/OHKOes it with Waterfall.

    Anyway:
    Chesnaught:
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    -Spiky Shield
    -Leech Seed
    -Seed Bomb
    -Hammer Arm
    Nature: Impish
    EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 SDef
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Bulletproof

    Chesnaught isn't even 2HKOed by Expert Belt Ice Punch. It can wear down Electivire with Leech Seed + Spiky Shield. Hammer Arm 2HKOes, while Seed Bomb does the same thing after some prior damage.

    Well, I have a counter for Chesnaught...

    Chandelure @ Leftovers
    Modest Nature
    252 Sp Atk 4 HP 252 Speed

    - Calm Mind
    - Fire Blast
    - Shadow Ball
    - Hidden Power Fighting

    Seed Bomb has a slight chance to 4HKO, potentially a 6HKO... Not including Leftovers.
    Hammer Arm has no effect.

    Chandelure OHKOs with unboosted Fire Blast... But he can boost all day on Chesnaught.
     

    Dark Azelf

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    Hydreigon@Choice Specs
    252 S.Atk / 252 Speed / 6 HP
    Modest Nature
    - Dark Pulse
    - Flash Cannon
    - Draco Meteor
    - Fire Blast

    Lives everything, outspeeds and OHKO's with Dark Pulse even at +1.
     
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    srinator

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    you mean 4 HP >_>

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    Sylveon @ Leftovers
    Ability: Pixilate
    EVs: 252 SDef / 252 HP / 4 SAtk
    Calm Nature
    - Hyper Voice
    - Wish
    - Heal Bell
    - Protect

    252 SpA Choice Specs Hydreigon Dark Pulse vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Sylveon: 57-68 (14.4 - 17.2%) -- possible 9HKO after Leftovers recovery
    Hydreigon Draco Meteor vs. Sylveon: 0-0 (0 - 0%) -- aim for the horn next time
    252 SpA Choice Specs Hydreigon Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Sylveon: 105-124 (26.6 - 31.4%) -- 23.8% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recover
    252 SpA Choice Specs Hydreigon Flash Cannon vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Sylveon: 154-182 (39 - 46.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

    i can take any of your hit and survive with more than 50% health and ohko.

    4 SpA Pixilate Sylveon Hyper Voice vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Hydreigon: 600-708 (184.6 - 217.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO

    i believe its gg no re?
     
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    Metagross @Leftovers
    Ability: Clear Body
    Evs: 252 HP/ 252 Atk/ 4 SDef
    Adamant Nature
    - Meteor Mash
    - Bullet Punch
    - Earthquake
    - Zen Headbutt


    4 SpA Pixilate Sylveon Hyper Voice vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Metagross: 75-88 (20.6 - 24.1%) -- possible 6HKO after Leftovers recovery

    252+ Atk Metagross Meteor Mash vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Sylveon: 474-558 (120.3 - 141.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
     

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    -Milotic w/Leftovers
    Nature: Bold
    Ability: Marvel Scale
    EVs: 252 HP, 252 Defense, 4 Sp.Attack
    Moves: Scald, Ice Beam, Recover, Toxic

    All of Metagross's attacks are 4HKOs at best, and Milotic can alternate between Scald and Recover to beat it.
     

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    Magnezone @ choice specs
    Ability: Magnet Pull
    EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 HP / 4 SDef
    Modest Nature
    - Thunderbolt
    - Flash Cannon
    - Hidden Power [Fire]
    - volt switch




    4 SpA Milotic Scald vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Magnezone: 94-112 (27.3 - 32.5%) -- 72.6% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
    4 SpA Milotic Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Magnezone: 35-42 (10.1 - 12.2%) -- possibly the worst move ever

    252+ SpA Choice Specs Magnezone Thunderbolt vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Milotic: 402-474 (102 - 120.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
     
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    Seismitoad @Leftovers
    Ability: Water Absorb
    EVs: 252 HP/ 252 SAtk/ 4 SDef
    Modest Nature
    - Stealth Rock
    - Earth Power
    - Scald
    - Grass Knot


    252+ SpA Magnezone Flash Cannon vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Seismitoad: 90-107 (21.7 - 25.8%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery
    252+ SpA Magnezone Hidden Power Fire vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Seismitoad: 45-54 (10.8 - 13%) -- possibly the worst move ever

    252+ SpA Seismitoad Earth Power vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Magnezone: 528-624 (153.4 - 181.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
     

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  • Breloom @Life Orb
    Ability: Technician
    EVs: 252 Spd/ 252 Atk/ 4 SDef
    Jolly Nature
    - Spore
    - Swords Dance
    - Bullet Seed
    - Mach Punch

    Standard Techniloom set. Explains itself.
     

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    Togekiss @ Leftovers
    Ability: Serene Grace
    EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 HP / 4 SDef
    Modest Nature
    - Air Slash
    - Thunder Wave
    - Dazzling Gleam
    - Nasty Plot


    252 Atk Life Orb Technician Breloom Mach Punch vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Togekiss: 32-39 (8.5 - 10.4%) -- possibly the worst move ever
    252 Atk Life Orb Technician Breloom Bullet Seed (3 hits) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Togekiss: 126-147 (33.6 - 39.3%) -- approx. 5% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery


    4 SpA Togekiss Air Slash vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Breloom: 576-676 (219.8 - 258%) -- guaranteed OHKO
     

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  • Let's get a pokemon in here we really haven't seen much of.

    Steelix @ Leftovers
    Ability: Sturdy
    EVs: 252 Atk / 252 HP / 4 SDef
    Brave Nature
    IVs: 0 Spd
    - Gyro Ball
    - Earthquake
    - Dragon Tail
    - Stone Edge

    252+ SpA Togekiss Air Slash vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Steelix: 90-106 (25.4 - 29.9%) -- 0.1% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
    252+ SpA Togekiss Dazzling Gleam vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Steelix: 96-113 (27.1 - 31.9%) -- 36.2% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery

    252+ Atk Steelix Gyro Ball (84 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Togekiss: 236-282 (63.1 - 75.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
     

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    Rotom-C@Choice Specs
    128 HP / 252 S.Atk / 128 Speed
    Modest Nature
    - Leaf Storm
    - Thunderbolt
    - Hidden Power Fire
    - Shadow Ball

    Walls the whole set and massacres back with Leaf Storm/HP Fire. Shadow Ball would be Trick, but lol for this its pointless.
     

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    -Rotom Heat w/Leftovers
    Nature: Calm
    Ability: Levitate
    EVs: 252 HP, 252 Sp.Defense, 4 Sp.Attack
    Moves: Overheat, Thunderbolt, Will-o-Wisp, Hidden Power Ground

    Resists Leaf Storm, Thunderbolt, and HP Fire. Shadow ball isn't good either:
    252+ SpA Choice Specs Rotom-C Shadow Ball vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Rotom-H: 85-101 (27.9 - 33.2%) -- 84.3% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery

    Then incinerates with Overheat.
     

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    Gastrodon @ Leftovers
    Ability: Storm Drain
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 SAtk / 252 SDef
    Calm Nature
    - Scald
    - Earth Power
    - Recover
    - Infestation


    4 SpA Rotom-H Overheat vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Gastrodon: 66-78 (15.4 - 18.3%) -- possible 8HKO after Leftovers recovery
    Rotom-H Thunderbolt vs. Gastrodon: 0-0 (0 - 0%) -- aim for the horn next time
    4 SpA Rotom-H Hidden Power Ground vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Gastrodon: 41-49 (9.6 - 11.5%) -- possibly the worst move ever


    4 SpA Gastrodon Scald vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Rotom-H: 114-134 (37.5 - 44%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
     
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    Sceptile @ Life Orb
    Ability: Overgrow
    EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 Spe / 4 HP
    Timid Nature
    - Leaf Storm
    - Giga Drain
    - Focus Blast
    - Hidden Power Rock


    4 SpA Gastrodon Scald vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Sceptile: 46-55 (16.3 - 19.5%) -- possible 6HKO
    4 SpA Gastrodon Earth Power vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Sceptile: 52-62 (18.4 - 21.9%) -- possible 5HKO

    252 SpA Life Orb Sceptile Leaf Storm vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Gastrodon: 780-920 (183 - 215.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
     
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