I agree that in San (Not Sand!!) Andreas, you can do alot of stuff, and that's alot. But face it, it's only capable of more in in this category because it's that kind of game. One, huge-***, explorable level. Oh yeah, and gang fighting? Being part of the mob? Oooh, great reasons for mindless killing. I know Halo 2's religious like reason for violence is much, much better.