Internet Censorship Bill passes in US

[femtrooper]

I don't agree with that. In Canada, it's legal to do torrents and download music. It's 'sharing'. But then again, we don't have Hulu and stuff. So really, I don't agree with it, but hey, as long as I can still get my stuff, I'll be fine! It's so hard to buy Pokémon DVD's, especially the Johto stuff, actually most of it really. They don't release it! So how am I suppose to watch it? Argh.

 

[FreakyLocz14]

Unless of course the lobbyists and of course the Music-Movie industry uses it's warchest to make them capitulate. :B

The Music-Movie industry can go to hell.
They're the true enemies of movies and music.

 

[Shadow Ball]

Psh. I'm not worried. I don't think this is really going to work out. The government is "smart", but the people have numbers and there are countless ways to get around stuff like this. Nobody is going to just give in to something like this anyway. That's how it always seems to happen with cases like this.

 

[Netto Azure]

The Music-Movie industry can go to hell.
They're the true enemies of movies and music.

Hey they have the money. :P

Still I agree that Internet Regulation should be minimal. It's how the internet is delivered where we diverge opinions. :3

 

[Alice]

Hey they have the money. :P

Still I agree that Internet Regulation should be minimal. It's how the internet is delivered where we diverge opinions. :3

Minimal? They should be non-existant.

 

[FreakyLocz14]

Hey they have the money. :P

Still I agree that Internet Regulation should be minimal. It's how the internet is delivered where we diverge opinions. :3

Big business will look for any means to make a profit. They don't care who they exploit or harm in the process. The Music-Movie industry is really the scum of the earth for this in my opinion. Having a profit motive is fine and natural but these groups are extremely unethical.

Minimal? They should be non-existant.

I wouldn't say non-existent. We need to keep children safe on the internet and stop the spread of child pornography. I don't include animated pornography in that definition, however.

 

[Livewire]

Big business will look for any means to make a profit. They don't care who they exploit or harm in the process. The Music-Movie industry is really the scum of the earth for this in my opinion. Having a profit motive is fine and natural but these groups are extremely unethical.



I wouldn't say non-existent. We need to keep children safe on the internet and stop the spread of child pornography. I don't include animated pornography in that definition, however.

I agree with both. Some strict regulation is needed to ensure that bad things stay out of the hands of children, such as pornography. I'd throw in material pertaining to firearms/alcohol/drugs as well.

 

[Alice]

I agree with both. Some strict regulation is needed to ensure that bad things stay out of the hands of children, such as pornography. I'd throw in material pertaining to firearms/alcohol/drugs as well.

Well, that's up to the parent. They have to use child blocks for that. The government can't censor it.

 

[ANARCHit3cht]

Let's just hope that someone in this process has a brain and sees how this is bad. This just makes another tick on the reason of why I need to make it to senate= filibuster on everything I don't like.

 

[Headfirst For Halos]

My issue with this is that every time I see a thread on PC about something the US government is doing, it's always overstated to the point where everyone overreacts and panics, and then it doesn't end up as badly as you all make it seem.

I wish I could sympathize with you guys, but here in Canada we have the CRTC that sells out to corporations for us, so I really can't. You're likely still better off than we are internet wise. XD

I understand what you mean. This is why I hate politics, people are waaayyyyy to passionate and tend to get paranoid and/or overreact to whatever little bill is passed.
C'mon, illegal or not, things are gonna happen anyways. That doesn't stop the black market or other [ROM sites and the like] such places.
Go ahead and flame me for "belittling" this bill, but it's not gonna help anyone nor yourself.

 

[22sa]

It's probably no big deal... popular sites you people need like youtube will survive this sort of thing after all.

 

[OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire]

Well Youtube is already censoring itself...so it's not likely to be censored by the government if this passes
Besides I think they should censor things that more morally wrong like pornography than copyrighted material but that's just me.

 

[Bay]

Well Youtube is already censoring itself...so it's not likely to be censored by the government if this passes
Besides I think they should censor things that more morally wrong like pornography than copyrighted material but that's just me.

I actually don't think pornography should be censored unless it's something like child pornography. Eh, I'm not the biggest fan of pornography but if other people like it, it's their business, not mine.

But yeah, I don't think this Bill or whatever is such a big deal also. Actually, I see a lot of different sites doing torrents and such being shut down long ago. Reporting copyright infringement has been done loads before.

 

[kidpunk]

I say that it won't last.
Don't ask me why, I just have a feeling that it will change in some way. This is way more control than the government should have on the internet.

 

[FreakyLocz14]

I say that it won't last.
Don't ask me why, I just have a feeling that it will change in some way. This is way more control than the government should have on the internet.

Let's hope litigation against the bill goes well if it indeed passes.

 

[Khengi]

I'm not down for this law either, but has anyone really stopped to think about something?

Downloading music, movies, games, etc., you're essentially taking money away from the creator. Things like that screw up the economy, people invest big in selling something, and only get a certain revenue even though everyone is listening. 2 + 2 = 5, in the author's head.

However, I can't talk, as I friggin' love going on Youtube and listening to music. But you won't see me arguing about it. If you made a CD and tried to sell it, only for one person to buy it and give it to everyone else... wouldn't you feel a bit bad?

 

[Bay]

I'm not down for this law either, but has anyone really stopped to think about something?

Downloading music, movies, games, etc., you're essentially taking money away from the creator. Things like that screw up the economy, people invest big in selling something, and only get a certain revenue even though everyone is listening. 2 + 2 = 5, in the author's head.

However, I can't talk, as I friggin' love going on Youtube and listening to music. But you won't see me arguing about it. If you made a CD and tried to sell it, only for one person to buy it and give it to everyone else... wouldn't you feel a bit bad?

If you meant downloading in sites that's offering music, movies, and such for free in an illegal manner, then yes you can say that. However, if you're downloading in legit sites like from Apple/iTunes and have to pay for a song or album, technically you're still supporting the creator.

 

[FreakyLocz14]

You're not necessarily taking money away from the creator by illegal downloading. Music and movies have become so entrenched in huge corporations that you are taking it from some industry fat cat's pockets more than the original creator. Musicians signed to major record labels give the rights to their work to the label in return for the exposure they get due to the label's clout in the music industry.

And taking money away from the industry doesn't justify government censorship at such an alarming rate. From a neutral legal standpoint, I'm trying to balance the competing interests here. A person's right to privacy vs. the entertainment industries' right to not have their products and services pirated. Monitoring people's web traffic tips that balance too heavily against the people's right to privacy in my opinion.

 

[Khengi]

You're not necessarily taking money away from the creator by illegal downloading. Music and movies have become so entrenched in huge corporations that you are taking it from some industry fat cat's pockets more than the original creator. Musicians signed to major record labels give the rights to their work to the label in return for the exposure they get due to the label's clout in the music industry.

This. I've never known this before, but when I really think about it, the producers usually get more money than the artist, don't they? The artist just gets fame and endorsements, that's where all their money comes from.

Yup, my side just changed :D

 

[FreakyLocz14]

The government's priorities amaze me.

Someone tell me why they're going after "illegal" media sites while they do nothing against sites like WikiLeaks the publish stolen classified documents?