League of Legends

[Lusus]

My twin is so fed up with everyone stinking it up as Lux. Whenever he chooses to play her, someone almost always rags on him for playing a bad champion. Of course, they change their mind when he's on a killing spree and dominating the middle lane, but that's besides the point.

I haven't seen a good Lux in ages, it's mostly just somebody flaming and feeding. On the other team however, the Lux destroys our mid laner and solo wins teamfights by poking before starting them.

 

[Nolafus]

I haven't seen a good Lux in ages, it's mostly just somebody flaming and feeding. On the other team however, the Lux destroys our mid laner and solo wins teamfights by poking before starting them.

That's what my twin does! He has this combination down where he stuns the target, and then unleashes all of his abilities, dropping the opponent's health to dangerously low levels in seconds, where he activates his ultimate to finish them off. He's got playing her down very well. I've never seen him do poorly, no matter who he's going against.

And the only time I've ever gotten fed was when I was playing ADC, but I didn't want to lose horribly, so I played as Wukong. I was going up against that one champion with that weird frisbee of death that she throws around, and since Wukong is great at poking and escaping, that's exactly what I did. I had a massive killing spree going on and I outleveled my opponents by five. It took their entire team coming from all sides to finally kill me. It was great.

 

[Selly Jr]

Lux isnt a bad champion, he's long range, has a shield that cahn protect her team , and AoEslow and a double snare. I really dont know why people hate her. I'd even go as far as saying she's more powerful then Xerath.

 

[Captain Gizmo]

Lux is a very good champ. I'm actually surprised that you guys mention that people are hating on her :P

When I play, and someone picks Lux, they do 'okay' or they're good with her. I'd say Lux is a very good champion in both CC and in killing ability.

 

[Lusus]

Another game lost cause my team throws a gigantic lead *sigh*

I should just stop playing PvP, or Gnar, impossible to carry with him.

 

[Talon]

I haven't had a chance to play Gnar yet. I've seen him in like every game so far, but he's never actually done good. Is he just a bad champion, high skill cap, or is that no one knows how to play him yet?

 

[Lusus]

I know to play him, if he manages to ult a carry into the wall the teamfight is pretty much won...........unless your team decides to focus the ulting Alistar instead >->

 

[Selly Jr]

I finally got my wish, Gnar vs my Nasus. Destroyed him. no matter how hard he tried, he couldt stop me farming

 

[Lusus]

I played few Gnar vs Nasus games. All Nasuses are scared for some reason, but without Mega Gnar you can't really prevent Nasus from farming with his free lifesteal.

 

[Selly Jr]

Irony is, only mini gnar can really hurt nasus and kite him with Hyper, and mega gnar is a LOT squish ire than he looks, mega gnar is pretty much inviting nasus to come out and farm for a while, and nasus can trade very favourably while he is mega, as nasus can't be kited while in that form. It's wierd

 

[NyxShooter]

Alright so this is just blabbering from a Gold 2 who can play any role, and tips I give to people about such followed up with general discussion upon LoL.

Lane Difficulties.

Spoiler:

This is my ranking upon the hardest lanes and their roles in the game and the reasoning. Top to bottom from easiest to most difficult.

TOP LANE - TANK

BOT LANE - SUPPORT

MID LANE - MAGE/ASSASSIN

JUNGLE- ANY

BOT - MARSKMAN

The reasoning for this is that any experienced tank player will know that he has to dive first into the enemy team, probabally going to die. Most tanks don't come out with the best Kill/Death ratio, however their assist ratio will always stay high. For Supports, its pretty much the same deal. Supports like Thresh, Leona, Zyra, they all have to engage first since these are pre-dominantly aggresive supports. It isn't difficult to dive headfirst with any champion at all. Leona is actually quite an easy support, just like Thresh. They offer very hard CC but no predominant skill. Mage/Assassins are the bane of any marksman, these guys require a bit more skill to play as they have to burst down the enemy squishies and then leave unharmed as a bonus. Champions such as LeBlanc and Yasuo are very potent Assassins who can really pack a punch. Jungle is one of the most difficult role/lane to play as/on due to the fact that it is sheer multi-tasking capability. If you are incapable at multi-tasking you should not consider jungle. Managing a double sided jungle with 4 Neutral Camps, and 2 buffs, and ontop of that assisting every single lane as much as possible, and protect your buffs and camps from not getting stolen with smart warding, and also trying to sh!t on the enemies jungle. Jungle, however, is nothing in comparison to the Marksman role. Marskman is the most difficult role, there I said it. Vayne is the only Marskman Assassin, and she can really hurt. All marskmen are glass cannons. They really really hurt, but they die really fast. Burst is the bane to all marskmen. Staying behind lines and right clicking on people is what most people consider it, however marskmen have to carry the game and kite their opponents. Marskman is the hardest and arguably the most important role in the game. 8/10 games, without a marksman on your team, you will loose.

If you agree that the following is accurate, I can add the tips section should it recieve good feedback. Otherwise, I will delete the post if it causes problems or anger within the community.

 

[Selly Jr]

Alright so this is just blabbering from a Gold 2 who can play any role, and tips I give to people about such followed up with general discussion upon LoL.

Lane Difficulties.

Spoiler:

This is my ranking upon the hardest lanes and their roles in the game and the reasoning. Top to bottom from easiest to most difficult.

TOP LANE - TANK

BOT LANE - SUPPORT

MID LANE - MAGE/ASSASSIN

JUNGLE- ANY

BOT - MARSKMAN

The reasoning for this is that any experienced tank player will know that he has to dive first into the enemy team, probabally going to die. Most tanks don't come out with the best Kill/Death ratio, however their assist ratio will always stay high. For Supports, its pretty much the same deal. Supports like Thresh, Leona, Zyra, they all have to engage first since these are pre-dominantly aggresive supports. It isn't difficult to dive headfirst with any champion at all. Leona is actually quite an easy support, just like Thresh. They offer very hard CC but no predominant skill. Mage/Assassins are the bane of any marksman, these guys require a bit more skill to play as they have to burst down the enemy squishies and then leave unharmed as a bonus. Champions such as LeBlanc and Yasuo are very potent Assassins who can really pack a punch. Jungle is one of the most difficult role/lane to play as/on due to the fact that it is sheer multi-tasking capability. If you are incapable at multi-tasking you should not consider jungle. Managing a double sided jungle with 4 Neutral Camps, and 2 buffs, and ontop of that assisting every single lane as much as possible, and protect your buffs and camps from not getting stolen with smart warding, and also trying to sh!t on the enemies jungle. Jungle, however, is nothing in comparison to the Marksman role. Marskman is the most difficult role, there I said it. Vayne is the only Marskman Assassin, and she can really hurt. All marskmen are glass cannons. They really really hurt, but they die really fast. Burst is the bane to all marskmen. Staying behind lines and right clicking on people is what most people consider it, however marskmen have to carry the game and kite their opponents. Marskman is the hardest and arguably the most important role in the game. 8/10 games, without a marksman on your team, you will loose.

If you agree that the following is accurate, I can add the tips section should it recieve good feedback. Otherwise, I will delete the post if it causes problems or anger within the community.

I like it, but theres a few things I'd add.

Spoiler:

Tanks, in my mind, theres a few types of tank, Ones that can peel for allied carries (Udyr, Sejuani, Shen to name a few), and ones who can dive enemy carries (Olaf, Shyvana, Renekton) but basically, a good tank will block skillshots from hitting their carries, and/or MAKE the enemy team focus you first, or to give them a reason to focus you first (easiest way to do this IMO is to dive onto their adc (Renekton, Udyr and Olaf are VERY good at this because of their mobility and their cc in their kits)) You get the idea.

Supports, I wouldnt say its a low skillcap role.(Not taking map awareness into account here) Aside from being on extremely limited gold income, there is a degree of knowing when you should and should not go in. Leona for example, Once you engage, theres no easy escape, Zenith blade can get you into VERY deep trouble, she is a very strong 'all-in' tank cc support, but you have to know when it is safe to engage upon the enemy. Thresh, He has quite long cooldowns compared to most supports, and I have seen countless people just go in on landing a hook just because they landed it. thats wrong, you keep the hook on them for as long as possible because as soon as you pull yourself in, the supress from the hook is gone, allowing the enemy to do things again, same process as Leona's Zenith Blade, if you just go in, you can get yourself into deep trouble.
There is also the art of prediction when it comes to hooking, Thresh is very rewarding for this for 3 reasons: 1) cooldown; if you land a hook, the cooldown of Death Sentence is reduced by up to 50% iirc? 2): Low mana cost compared to blitzcrank's hook and 3) it is completely OPTIONAL if you or your carry want to follow up a sucessful hook.
The skill part doesnt have to be about the champion, it has to do with the player's game sense if you understand what I am trying to say.


Mage/assasains: completely agree with pretty much everything you said, I'd even go as far as saying Mid lane is the hardest lane in the game.

Jungling: like supporting, this role is actually more harder than it seems. Again, you are on limited gold, as camps offer nowhere near as much gold as farming a lane would, you ahve to keep on top of timers, keep your (or their) jungle warded (vision is power). And knowing when to gank; this may sound stupid but hear me out. Theres not really any point in ganking a losing lane, we've heard all that before right? not necessarily true, but the reason why you dont gank a losing lane is (in my view) for 2 reasons, 1) stops your top laner overextending so much (if they're not being silly like most are) and 2) if you gank that losing lane, you may also fall victim to that enemy laner and give up a doublekill (or worse, give them your buffs!). If you try and force a gank too hard, you also run the risk of getting your laner killed.
Also because you are on limited gold, you cannot afford to be waiting around for gank opportunities to occur, if your jungle is clear, and ytou cannot see any ganking opportunities, go and ward their jungle or even better, ward AND counterjungle. Warding the enemy jungle is useful because it can allow you to see ganks from the enemy coming sooner, and allows you to counter it a lot faster, maybe even before the gank happens!


ADC: This role is a very close second in terms of laning difficulty for me. Sure, people thiong you just right click and farm at safe distance, but there is such a big difference in auto attack range between the current ADC champions. Vayne vs Caitlyn for example, Caitlyn is known for having the longest attack range of any ADC (actually not true, as of level 14 and onwards, that title belongs to Tristana), and Vayne (and Draven too) have the shortest Range of all ranged champions. Thus caitlyn can EASILY harass a vayne if she tries to farm, and if a Vayne tries to attack the Caitlyn, before vayne even gets in range, caitlyn can land 2 auto attacks on her in that time.
Because of the nature of the ADC role, you have little/to health or resistances, and you must rely SOLELY on your ability to kite and sustain with lifesteal in teamfights, because if one eveny gets to you with any form of hard CC, you're done, and thus your entire team loses its main damage source. Caitlyn, Ezreal and Tristana are fairly easy to kite with in teamfights, as they have very good escapes, and their ranges help them considerably then kiting. However, champions like Vayne, Ashe and Kogmaw dont have such an easy time, Particularly Vayne, Sure she has tumble, but that isn't gonna be enough, Vayne is THE squisiest champion in the game, but if you can use her well, she will DESTROY EVERYTHING. She has the kit to kite, but the short range and the low distance and the bad resistances and health make it extremely hard. Vayne is probably the most powerful champion in LoL. I can't really say how to play her because I'm really awful with her, but I;ve had a few games (think i posted the end result in this thread somewhere) where i've played even OK and completely destroyed my foes with her. back to the other champions, as you may or may not know, Kogmaw and Ashe have no means of escape outside of Flash, all they can hopet to do, is try and slow with Void ooze, or Frost arrows with Trinity force phage passive and try their best to kite away.

 

[NyxShooter]

I like it, but theres a few things I'd add.

Spoiler:

Tanks, in my mind, theres a few types of tank, Ones that can peel for allied carries (Udyr, Sejuani, Shen to name a few), and ones who can dive enemy carries (Olaf, Shyvana, Renekton) but basically, a good tank will block skillshots from hitting their carries, and/or MAKE the enemy team focus you first, or to give them a reason to focus you first (easiest way to do this IMO is to dive onto their adc (Renekton, Udyr and Olaf are VERY good at this because of their mobility and their cc in their kits)) You get the idea.

Supports, I wouldnt say its a low skillcap role.(Not taking map awareness into account here) Aside from being on extremely limited gold income, there is a degree of knowing when you should and should not go in. Leona for example, Once you engage, theres no easy escape, Zenith blade can get you into VERY deep trouble, she is a very strong 'all-in' tank cc support, but you have to know when it is safe to engage upon the enemy. Thresh, He has quite long cooldowns compared to most supports, and I have seen countless people just go in on landing a hook just because they landed it. thats wrong, you keep the hook on them for as long as possible because as soon as you pull yourself in, the supress from the hook is gone, allowing the enemy to do things again, same process as Leona's Zenith Blade, if you just go in, you can get yourself into deep trouble.
There is also the art of prediction when it comes to hooking, Thresh is very rewarding for this for 3 reasons: 1) cooldown; if you land a hook, the cooldown of Death Sentence is reduced by up to 50% iirc? 2): Low mana cost compared to blitzcrank's hook and 3) it is completely OPTIONAL if you or your carry want to follow up a sucessful hook.
The skill part doesnt have to be about the champion, it has to do with the player's game sense if you understand what I am trying to say.


Mage/assasains: completely agree with pretty much everything you said, I'd even go as far as saying Mid lane is the hardest lane in the game.

Jungling: like supporting, this role is actually more harder than it seems. Again, you are on limited gold, as camps offer nowhere near as much gold as farming a lane would, you ahve to keep on top of timers, keep your (or their) jungle warded (vision is power). And knowing when to gank; this may sound stupid but hear me out. Theres not really any point in ganking a losing lane, we've heard all that before right? not necessarily true, but the reason why you dont gank a losing lane is (in my view) for 2 reasons, 1) stops your top laner overextending so much (if they're not being silly like most are) and 2) if you gank that losing lane, you may also fall victim to that enemy laner and give up a doublekill (or worse, give them your buffs!). If you try and force a gank too hard, you also run the risk of getting your laner killed.
Also because you are on limited gold, you cannot afford to be waiting around for gank opportunities to occur, if your jungle is clear, and ytou cannot see any ganking opportunities, go and ward their jungle or even better, ward AND counterjungle. Warding the enemy jungle is useful because it can allow you to see ganks from the enemy coming sooner, and allows you to counter it a lot faster, maybe even before the gank happens!


ADC: This role is a very close second in terms of laning difficulty for me. Sure, people thiong you just right click and farm at safe distance, but there is such a big difference in auto attack range between the current ADC champions. Vayne vs Caitlyn for example, Caitlyn is known for having the longest attack range of any ADC (actually not true, as of level 14 and onwards, that title belongs to Tristana), and Vayne (and Draven too) have the shortest Range of all ranged champions. Thus caitlyn can EASILY harass a vayne if she tries to farm, and if a Vayne tries to attack the Caitlyn, before vayne even gets in range, caitlyn can land 2 auto attacks on her in that time.
Because of the nature of the ADC role, you have little/to health or resistances, and you must rely SOLELY on your ability to kite and sustain with lifesteal in teamfights, because if one eveny gets to you with any form of hard CC, you're done, and thus your entire team loses its main damage source. Caitlyn, Ezreal and Tristana are fairly easy to kite with in teamfights, as they have very good escapes, and their ranges help them considerably then kiting. However, champions like Vayne, Ashe and Kogmaw dont have such an easy time, Particularly Vayne, Sure she has tumble, but that isn't gonna be enough, Vayne is THE squisiest champion in the game, but if you can use her well, she will DESTROY EVERYTHING. She has the kit to kite, but the short range and the low distance and the bad resistances and health make it extremely hard. Vayne is probably the most powerful champion in LoL. I can't really say how to play her because I'm really awful with her, but I;ve had a few games (think i posted the end result in this thread somewhere) where i've played even OK and completely destroyed my foes with her. back to the other champions, as you may or may not know, Kogmaw and Ashe have no means of escape outside of Flash, all they can hopet to do, is try and slow with Void ooze, or Frost arrows with Trinity force phage passive and try their best to kite away.

I agree with a lot of the things you said, me being a jungle main would've put jungle as the hardest ter I have to aknowledge the ADC prospect as these guys are pretty much what keep your game from plummeting. I do agree with what you propose that zenith blade and threshs hooks can get you in deep trouble, its pretty much what you have to do as aggressive supports. Being a previous support main in S2 and half of S3, it really depends on your adc aswell. If they dont engage while you're playing leona for example and leona starts a skirmish, the ADC should follow.

Also, on the prospect of adcs with no escape, I would say ashe and Kog'Maw can deal tons of damage but its otherwise pointless to play such champs in higher ELOs if you cant kite. I've demolished players who got to gold only using Ashe, but not able to form an escape. If you play the champ well, you know what screws that champ over. Common ADCs such as Ashe are typically played by everyone, and every good Ashe player knows what mucks other Ashes, so I dont think such ADCs are weak because they have no escape but primarily because a lot of people play such ADCs.

Also with the new addition of Gnar who would be a porential ADC with his harass kit, and can transform into a (not so great) tank can add some ADC potential to him which would be the second ADC to potentially go top lane including Vayne. Gnar is, albeit, a bit difficult to counter with so much harass.

 

[Selly Jr]

I know that feeling bro, I did all that on my phone too lol

 

[Dragon]

As an ADC main myself, I'll chip in what I have to say about the role:

Yes, it's a tough role to learn if you don't know what your doing. You have no idea how many people for get that you have to move while shooting, and not just stand in Melee range. So kiting is indeed important, but it'll take sometime to master because you have to remember the attack animations, as well as focusing on the total damage input you can deal. Honestly, I think Ashe is the easiest ADC for me to kite with because she has constant slows with her Q and E, but yes, she lacks an escape so, you might feel she's short handed against champions with a gap-closer.

Also, in team fights, always, alwayssss shoot the target in front of you; don't go -past- tanks and bruisers to try to get the squisher targets. I mean, if you've build correctly, you can deal great amounts of damage, even to tanks, so, there's no shame focusing them if you have no choice~

Bot lane? I believe its a matter of rock paper scissors. You can either have: A Sustain Lane, a Kill Lane, or a Poke Lane. Sustain beats Poke because supports can easily just heal the poke damage, but they generally have to be careful to not abuse this because it'll deplete mana quickly. Poke beats Kill *typically*, because I feel that Kill lanes would have a harder time engaging if champs can just poke at a safe distance without worry of retaliation. And Kill can generally beat Sustain if they can burst them quickly before they can regenerate health.

That being said, I main Jinx, Miss Fortune, and Caityln myself as ADCs, in which I'm using Tristana more often now. C:

 

[NyxShooter]

I beg to differ on focusing tanks due to their literal definition being something to suck up punches. I will always focus the ADC no matter what, no matter how many tanks stand in my way. Simply take Vi or Lee Sin (My main champion) to focus down the champion easily. If possible I will always focus the ADC, and plus when playing ranked games focusing the tanks is something which one might regret a lot as the adc just pushes and ends the game with their fantastic damage making you drop in your ranking. Such mistakes are unforgivable in high ELOs. Also the bot lane of perfection is the lane which can simply do kill (in almost all cases). Any ADC after getting 4 or more kills and can keep their death counter below 2 is going to end the game, honestly. The only exception to this is Vayne who is a hyper-carry which gets stronger as the game goes on, any good Vayne by the 40th minute (even if they lack in early kills) can dominantly shut down the entire enemy team being a marskm-assassin. An ADC who is shut-down early has close to no impact on team-fights due to their lack of minion farm from dying. No farm = No Gold = No complete items = no damage.

I do agree with you on the prospect of kiting. It is difficult and took me a lot of time to properly master it. Kiting is a must-know for anyone maining ADC.

 

[Selly Jr]

Vayne is the best tankbuster in the game due to her silver bolts. % max health as TRUE damage, even kogmaw cant do that, his magic damage can be resisted with MR, but nothing can stop true damage.

 

[Atwilko]

i dunno what to think about gnar he seems pretty meh to me, and i tend to play ezreal graves sivir and varus alot as adc and usually as adc u should just attack things u can while staying safe from ppl to kill u

 

[Selly Jr]

I think he's adorable. apart from that, pretty meh so far.

 

[Lusus]

He is getting some major buffs next patch, which i don't like because he is just gonna end up being nerfed to the ground like Yasuo when people learn to play him.