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    • So I've got this adamant Speed Boost Venipede in my PC box that I wanna turn into a fairly versatile Baton Pass Scolipede.

    Scolipede @ Black Sludge /Mental Herb
    - Swords Dance / Iron Defense
    - Baton Pass
    - Protect
    - Megahorn / Poison Jab

    What are your thoughts on the best EV spread for this thing? A cursory glace over a Smogon suggested 248 HP/208 Sp.Def/52 Spd, but I think it might need a bit more bulk than that...
     
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    PlatinumDude

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    • Timbjerr said:
    So I've got this adamant Speed Boost Venipede in my PC box that I wanna turn into a fairly versatile Baton Pass Scolipede.

    Scolipede @ Black Sludge /Mental Herb
    - Swords Dance / Iron Defense
    - Baton Pass
    - Protect
    - Megahorn / Poison Jab

    What are your thoughts on the best EV spread for this thing? A cursory glace over a Smogon suggested 248 HP/208 Sp.Def/52 Spd, but I think it might need a bit more bulk than that...
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    That EV spread is spot-on. Scolipede has more useful physical resists than special ones (that, and its Defense is admittedly decent and it will be boosted by Iron Defense anyways) and the heavy Special Defense investment helps out against weak to moderate special hits.
     
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    I know nobody really does Rotation battles, but I thought I'd ask anyway. Which is better in Rotations, a more offensive team or a balanced/defensive one?
     

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    • RickyMeister said:
    Best clefable/meganium/swampert/empoleon sets? X/y moves only
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    Really, Clefable is the best option on your list:
    -Calm Mind
    -Moonblast
    -Moonlight/Wish
    -Heal Bell/Flamethrower/Stored Power/Protect
    Nature: Bold
    EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 SAtk
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Unaware/Magic Guard

    or
    -Wish
    -Protect
    -Moonblast
    -Aromatherapy/Thunder Wave
    Nature: Bold
    EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 SDef
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Unaware/Magic Guard

    or
    -Moonblast
    -Fire Blast
    -Thunder Wave
    -Moonlight
    Nature: Modest
    EVs: 252 HP/4 Def/252 SAtk
    Item: Life Orb
    Ability: Magic Guard

    Why Meganium? It's honestly outclassed by virtually every Grass Pokemon in standard play (Mega Venusaur, Breloom, Ferrothorn, heck even Amoonguss, Chesnaught and Tangrowth are better). Bit of you insist:
    -Aromatherapy
    -Energy Ball/Petal Blizzard
    -Dragon Tail
    -Synthesis/Leech Seed
    Nature: Calm/Careful
    EVs: 252 HP/4 Def/252 SDef
    Item: Leftovers

    Swampert pretty much needs move tutors to be effective (Stealth Rock, Ice Punch, Superpower). But this is the best it can do with X/Y moves:
    -Waterfall
    -Earthquake
    -Avalanche
    -Stone Edge
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 204 HP/252 Atk/52 Spe
    Item: Choice Band
    Ability: Torrent

    or
    -Curse
    -Earthquake
    -Avalanche
    -Rest
    Nature: Careful
    EVs: 252 HP/4 Def/252 SDef
    Item: Chesto Berry
    Ability: Torrent

    While Empoleon's current best set needs tutors as well, it could still pull of Agility sets:
    -Agility
    -Hydro Pump/Surf
    -Ice Beam/Flash Cannon
    -Grass Knot/Flash Cannon
    Nature: Modest
    EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb
    Ability: Torrent

    or
    -Substitute
    -Agility
    -Hydro Pump/Surf
    -Ice Beam/Grass Knot
    Nature: Modest/Timid
    EVs: 12 HP/4 Def/252 SAtk/240 Spe
    Item: Petaya Berry
    Ability: Torrent

    or
    -Hydro Pump/Surf
    -Flash Cannon
    -Ice Beam
    -Grass Knot
    Nature: Modest
    EVs: 140 HP/252 SAtk/116 Spe
    Item: Choice Specs
    Ability: Torrent
     
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    PlatinumDude said:
    Really, Clefable is the best option on your list:
    -Calm Mind
    -Moonblast
    -Moonlight/Wish
    -Heal Bell/Flamethrower/Stored Power/Protect
    Nature: Bold
    EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 SAtk
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Unaware/Magic Guard

    or
    -Wish
    -Protect
    -Moonblast
    -Aromatherapy/Thunder Wave
    Nature: Bold
    EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 SDef
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Unaware/Magic Guard

    or
    -Moonblast
    -Fire Blast
    -Thunder Wave
    -Moonlight
    Nature: Modest
    EVs: 252 HP/4 Def/252 SAtk
    Item: Life Orb
    Ability: Magic Guard

    Why Meganium? It's honestly outclassed by virtually every Grass Pokemon in standard play (Mega Venusaur, Breloom, Ferrothorn, heck even Amoonguss, Chesnaught and Tangrowth are better). Bit of you insist:
    -Aromatherapy
    -Energy Ball/Petal Blizzard
    -Dragon Tail
    -Synthesis/Leech Seed
    Nature: Calm/Careful
    EVs: 252 HP/4 Def/252 SDef
    Item: Leftovers

    Swampert pretty much needs move tutors to be effective (Stealth Rock, Ice Punch, Superpower). But this is the best it can do with X/Y moves:
    -Waterfall
    -Earthquake
    -Avalanche
    -Stone Edge
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 204 HP/252 Atk/52 Spe
    Item: Choice Band
    Ability: Torrent

    or
    -Curse
    -Earthquake
    -Avalanche
    -Rest
    Nature: Careful
    EVs: 252 HP/4 Def/252 SDef
    Item: Chesto Berry
    Ability: Torrent

    While Empoleon's current best set needs tutors as well, it could still pull of Agility sets:
    -Agility
    -Hydro Pump/Surf
    -Ice Beam/Flash Cannon
    -Grass Knot/Flash Cannon
    Nature: Modest
    EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb
    Ability: Torrent

    or
    -Substitute
    -Agility
    -Hydro Pump/Surf
    -Ice Beam/Grass Knot
    Nature: Modest/Timid
    EVs: 12 HP/4 Def/252 SAtk/240 Spe
    Item: Petaya Berry
    Ability: Torrent

    or
    -Hydro Pump/Surf
    -Flash Cannon
    -Ice Beam
    -Grass Knot
    Nature: Modest
    EVs: 140 HP/252 SAtk/116 Spe
    Item: Choice Specs
    Ability: Torrent
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    Thanks for helping.
    Would another fighting move work instead of superpower(power up punch,hammer arm,brick break)

    And for the grass types i already have most of them want some more variety.what would you recomend for amoongus?
     

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    • RickyMeister said:
    Thanks for helping.
    Would another fighting move work instead of superpower(power up punch,hammer arm,brick break)

    And for the grass types i already have most of them want some more variety.what would you recomend for amoongus?
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    Hammer Arm is the only viable Fighting option for Swampert, but it does lose out on some power.

    Also, Amoonguss sets:
    -Spore
    -Giga Drain
    -Hidden Power (Fire)/Sludge Bomb
    -Clear Smog/Stun Spore
    Nature: Bold
    EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 SDef
    Item: Black Sludge
    Ability: Regenerator
     
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    HM04 said:
    hey there. Is blissey still viable OU? if so, what kind of set up am I looking at (moves, nature, evs, etc.) ?
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    Blissey is still viable in OU. Here's a set for you:

    -Blissey w/Leftovers
    Nature: Calm/Bold
    Ability: Natural Cure
    EVs: 252 Defense, 252 Sp.Defense, 4 HP
    Moves: Softboiled/Wish, Aromatherapy/Protect, Flamethrower/Ice Beam/Thunderbolt, Toxic/Thunder Wave
     

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    • Salt&PepperDiner said:
    Blissey is still viable in OU. Here's a set for you:

    -Blissey w/Leftovers
    Nature: Calm/Bold
    Ability: Natural Cure
    EVs: 252 Defense, 252 Sp.Defense, 4 HP
    Moves: Softboiled/Wish, Aromatherapy/Protect, Flamethrower/Ice Beam/Thunderbolt, Toxic/Thunder Wave
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    thanks, this sounds pretty good to me. I almost totally forgot about aromatherapy thanx for reminding me. If it really came down to it though, would you choose calm or bold? I would naturally think bold but, im no expert xp
     

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    • HM04 said:
    thanks, this sounds pretty good to me. I almost totally forgot about aromatherapy thanx for reminding me. If it really came down to it though, would you choose calm or bold? I would naturally think bold but, im no expert xp
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    Bold is the better nature, despite Blissey's terrible Defense.
     

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    • Delphox @
    Red Card
    Ability: Magician
    EVs: 4 HP / Def / 252 SAtk / SDef / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature
    - Calm mind
    - HP ice
    - Psyshock
    - Fire blast


    Hp ice is OK for it it counters ground and maybe effective
     

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    • LightBlast said:
    Delphox best movesets? I have HP Ice on it, could that be useful?
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    gym leader prajesh said:
    Delphox @
    Red Card
    Ability: Magician
    EVs: 4 HP / Def / 252 SAtk / SDef / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature
    - Calm mind
    - HP ice
    - Psyshock
    - Fire blast


    Hp ice is OK for it it counters ground and maybe effective
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    I have to disagree. Magician is highly situational and it's not as effective without the non-Normal Gems. Delphox is outclassed by other Fire Pokemon, tbh:
    -Calm Mind
    -Fire Blast
    -Psyshock
    -Hidden Power (Ice)
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Leftovers/Life Orb
    Ability: Blaze

    or
    -Fire Blast
    -Psyshock
    -Hidden Power (Ice)
    -Grass Knot/Switcheroo
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Choice Specs/Choice Scarf
    Ability: Blaze
     

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    I'm trying to make a NU team for single battle and I want to use Delcatty. Any set ideas?
    So far for moves i'm thinking fake out, sucker punch, wish, and play rough. Maybe give it a leftovers or life orb, and adamant or a speed boosting nature.
     

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    • debbletricks said:
    I'm trying to make a NU team for single battle and I want to use Delcatty. Any set ideas?
    So far for moves i'm thinking fake out, sucker punch, wish, and play rough. Maybe give it a leftovers or life orb, and adamant or a speed boosting nature.
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    Delcatty sucks, tbh. Its pre-evo level stats seriously prevent it from using its wide movepool to good effect; Baton Pass is the best it can do:
    -Calm Mind
    -Hyper Voice
    -Substitute
    -Baton Pass
    Nature: Bold
    EVs: 252 HP/200 Def/56 Spe
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Wonder Skin
     

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    PlatinumDude said:
    Delcatty sucks, tbh. Its pre-evo level stats seriously prevent it from using its wide movepool to good effect; Baton Pass is the best it can do:
    -Calm Mind
    -Hyper Voice
    -Substitute
    -Baton Pass
    Nature: Bold
    EVs: 252 HP/200 Def/56 Spe
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Wonder Skin
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    yeah i was afraid of that. i was hoping i could get away with it since i would be using it against other NUs. last question then, is it pretty much useless even in it's own tier and i should find something else or would it have a chance?
     

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    • debbletricks said:
    yeah i was afraid of that. i was hoping i could get away with it since i would be using it against other NUs. last question then, is it pretty much useless even in it's own tier and i should find something else or would it have a chance?
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    As I mentioned, Delcatty is outclassed, even in NU. You'll have to think about what Delcatty can even do for the team before you add it.
     
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