5th Gen New Types?

[Zackraa]

Do you have Proof of this? I haven't seen an update anywhere confirming their dual typing yet.


As for the Wind deal, Flying already kinda covers that. I believe Flying(Bird) Type was originally the Pokemon version's "WIND". Most wind based attacks are flying type with exceptions to Icy Wind, Silver Wind, Ominous Wind, and Whirlwind.

The typing for Zekrom was leaked weeks ago in a blog and they were announced as dragons to begin with not to mention just looking at Reshiram's design makes it obvious it is Fire/Dragon (i.e. torch tail, flaming head etc.)

I'm not gonna deny what their types are in hopes of something different only to get disappointed

 

[Cyberglass]

i just don't see those as types, those are like sub-elements. glass=sand (ground type), crystal and diamond=rock and steel (since dialga, the diamond pokemon is steel tye).

we need something completly different, but i cant think at the moment.

You could do this for a lot of types. For example, sand is really just crushed rocks, so ground type could be considered a subtype of rock. Ice is just frozen water. All natural fire comes from lightning (electric-type), and otherwise only dragons breathe fire. Just because the types can come from other elements doesn't mean they should be considered identical to those elements.

 

[Nabooru]

I dont think they should put Light type in... For some reason it sounds to similar to Psychic.

 

[Jerme]

You could do this for a lot of types. For example, sand is really just crushed rocks, so ground type could be considered a subtype of rock. Ice is just frozen water. All natural fire comes from lightning (electric-type), and otherwise only dragons breathe fire. Just because the types can come from other elements doesn't mean they should be considered identical to those elements.

but imo the types you mentioned work very different.

you can melt ice with fire, but you cant melt water with fire (or anything)

electric and fire are 2 different things, nuff said. and dragons aren't fire, they supposedly breathe it.

now ground and rock type, i have nothin on that.

and glass, diamand and crystal are just pointless additions to stone types that we already have (ground, steel, rock). i dont see how they would be different.

 

[ThePlatinumShadow]

I dont think they should put Light type in... For some reason it sounds to similar to Psychic.

I agree. Light would sound like the ability to use force against the opponent.

 

[Ravecat]

but imo the types you mentioned work very different.

you can melt ice with fire, but you cant melt water with fire (or anything)

electric and fire are 2 different things, nuff said. and dragons aren't fire, they supposedly breathe it.

now ground and rock type, i have nothin on that.

and glass, diamand and crystal are just pointless additions to stone types that we already have (ground, steel, rock). i dont see how they would be different.

Ice is as much water as glass is ground or rock, if not more.

:l

 

[ElectricScyther]

Guys, come on. Just look at Reshiram! Light type - check.
And besides Light types, we could see Computer-like types along the lines of Porygon and computer viruses, etc.
Anyone with me on that?
Besides, glass is just sand heated up a lot, I think, so we really would'nt need it.
Light types can actually balance out dark and poison types, but glass...?
Really? Can we please think better? What would it be weak to? What would it balance?
That's what you need to think about before creating these new types.

 

[Jerme]

ha, computer type

weaknesses-bug (acts as virus), fighting, water, ice (freezes it)
resistances-psychic
no effect-electric
super effective to- psychic
resisted by-ghost, electric

just wanted to do that for fun

 

[BleuVII]

Though it's worth a mention that the idea for a Glass/Crystal type did exist prior to BleuVII's ideas.

So while they could be done that way there are other options too, but the most likely is still a Sp. Def oriented type, as a parallel to Steel.

Yes, you'll notice that I credit Cyberglass and Kingler5 in my post as planting the idea in my head. I'd love to hear your ideas for what it would be strong/weak to.

Long quote, so I put it in Spoiler tags

Spoiler:

The more I think about a Glass/Crystal/Diamond type the more I like them. ....And I've realized that what's held me back from liking them is their connotations. Glass and Crystal bring to mind images of things that are frail and weak, and by association a Glass/Crystal-type Pokémon will also be perceived as weak (like many of the Ice-types, such as Sneasle, or Frosslass). Diamond, of course, has better connotations. Ones that bring to mind strength and durability. But there has already been a game titled Diamond. Confusions can arise, especially from those who have never played a Pokémon game. It is likely they'll think that the Diamond-type has something to do with Pokémon Diamond, and it doesn't. The Crystal-type also suffers from this pit-fall.

SO, what's my solution? To forget the idea of adding new types altogether, of course!

Spoiler:

Haha, just kidding. I drifted off to sleep last night and I and my brain got into a lengthy conversation about crystals, diamonds, glass, and their chemical compositions. What is a single common denominator between these three...? Carbon. And now we get into the meat of my insomnia what I'm trying to illustrate in this post. Instead of glass, crystal, or diamond, why not call it the Carbon-type? It is an all-inclusive term, having the ability to represent not only glass, crystal, and diamond, but other things such as poison and rock as well. The word carbon also opens the doors for even more type combinations, such as Carbon/Steel. Carbon also lacks those negative connotations that come with the alternative names.

So, uh... whatdya guys think?
At this point, I'm beyond speculation. I'm pretty much just saying things that I know have little to no chance of being in the games, but man... it sure would be cool if they were!

I think "Carbon Type" wouldn't necessarily be a good name for it. I mean, almost all organic things are carbon-based... humans, animals (and by extension, pokemon), grass, fruit, etc. It's a bit too broad. But I will admit that "Glass" has a frail connotation to it. I would be up for re-naming it, but I want the essence of glass and/or crystal glass to remain, since it actually IS really strong. The only reason we perceive glass as weak is because we use it in such thin sheets.

Besides, glass is just sand heated up a lot, I think, so we really would'nt need it. Light types can actually balance out dark and poison types, but glass...? Really? Can we please think better? What would it be weak to? What would it balance? That's what you need to think about before creating these new types.

Um... check my post. I've got a pretty extensive description of what it would be weak to and strong against, with explanations. So, I turn the tables and say to you, if you're going to criticize an idea, at least read what people said first. Oh wait... I forgot that I'm on the internet. People don't do that here.

 

[Ravecat]

Guys, come on. Just look at Reshiram! Light type - check.

No. White =! Light Type.

And besides Light types, we could see Computer-like types along the lines of Porygon and computer viruses, etc.
Anyone with me on that?

Yes, a Virus type that would include like 2 Pokémon is much more useful than a Glass Type, you are a genius!

Besides, glass is just sand heated up a lot, I think, so we really would'nt need it.

Ice is just Water cooled down a lot.
Rock is Ground.
Psychic isn't real.
Dragons are just a type of animal.
Bug is just a type of animal.
Steel is made out of Ground.

Durhur logic is durhur.

Light types can actually balance out dark and poison types, but glass...?
Really? Can we please think better? What would it be weak to? What would it balance?

I believe it's been stated that it would be Special Defense centered. It would be more-so a parallel to Steel than a balance to anything.

That's what you need to think about before creating these new types.

I think you need to try this -thinking- thing yourself, and realize that there is absolutely no basis for a Light Type beyond "DURHUR IT WOULD BE C00L LOL."

I honestly can't believe there's someone out there who sees the logic in one stupid type but starts an argument about another.

 

[HannahMontana]

No need for new types, nor has a good idea been suggested regarding a new type.

 

[Jerme]

the only new type there should be is ??? for arceus, spiritomb and sableye.

since tomb and eye have no weaknesses with their dark/ghost combination, they should make them ??? type. and ??? would power up all move types as if they are the same type as the user.

 

[Ravecat]

No need for new types, nor has a good idea been suggested regarding a new type.

There is no necessary idea.

the only new type there should be is ??? for arceus, spiritomb and sableye.

since tomb and eye have no weaknesses with their dark/ghost combination, they should make them ??? type. and ??? would power up all move types as if they are the same type as the user.

...Why?

 

[Jerme]

There is no necessary idea.


...Why?

for fun? lol

plus these people want a new type so badly and its the only legit one imo

 

[WithSquirtles11]

we cant have glass type because of the way the japanese pronounce their l's they would think it's grass type instead and get confused

 

[Satoshi_poketo monsta]

New type or not, we don't even know for sure! Like 2nd Gen, We got Steel type as a New type! Who knows, maybe there is and maybe not!

 

[Jerme]

2nd gen introduced those types to balance out the system, because psychic was over powered from what i heard.

and most people agree that the system is good enough already balance

 

[Ravecat]

we cant have glass type because of the way the japanese pronounce their l's they would think it's grass type instead and get confused

Are you serious?

Spoiler:

Protip: they use different words in Japan, because they speak Japanese!

 

[Jerme]

Are you serious?

Spoiler:

Protip: they use different words in Japan, because they speak Japanese!

i know WTF? :laugh:

and this thread should be changed to "new type combinations?" because i guarentee no new types

like this fugly fakemon in my avator should be water/fighting type

 

[Ravecat]

I wish people would stop using words like "guarantee" and "fact" with absolutely no basis.