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Strikit

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  • Hey guys! So I've been cooking an idea for a while that I really want to do right. To do it right it would be time consuming and complex and I want to make sure that A) there's a market for it, and B) I'm doing it the best way possible.

    SU Stuff
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    Egg or Dragon?
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    Rough plot stuff. I know it's kinda garbled and directionless, but it's just the basic ideas thrown out there. What do you like and what do you think sounds off and unnecessary? Any suggestions on things you'd like to see, or ways to clean up what I've got?
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    Game mechanics
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    Thanks in advance for any help or suggestions!
     
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  • *Cough Inheritance *Cough

    Overall I really like the story and mechanics you've got there.
    The only things I feel that you need to note are

    1. What a dragons capable of?
    2. What is the time period? It sounds medieval, but it could be anything really.
    3. What are humans capable of? It's a fantasy RP so is there magic etc, or are humans simply human? Or is there technology?
    4. The plot could do with some polishing. What you've got is great, you just need to refine it.
     

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  • Scrapped the last idea, and I think I've got the ultimate idea...Again. It's going to be based off of one of my favorite book series, the Edge Chronicles.


    Our story takes place in a strange and mysterious land know as "The Edgeworld." The Edgeworld is home to a large variety of landscapes, flora, and fauna.
    http://theedgechronicles.wikia.com/wiki/Edgeworld


    Settings: I'll go more into detail later.
    Santaphrax:Home of the Academics
    http://theedgechronicles.wikia.com/wiki/Sanctaphrax
    Undertown: The supposed "Land of Gold" turned into a land of treachery despair
    http://theedgechronicles.wikia.com/wiki/Undertown
    The Deepwoods: The vast majority of the Edgelands inhabited by both peaceful, and deadly, plants and animals.
    http://theedgechronicles.wikia.com/wiki/The_Deepwoods
    The Mire: A massive, toxic desert wasteland that serves as the dumpsite for Oldtown's chemicals.
    http://theedgechronicles.wikia.com/wiki/Mire
    The Twilight Woods: A vast forest covered in an eternal twilight. Those lost in the forest begin to lose their sense of purpose, their identity, and sanity. Once lost in the woods, you cannot die, resulting in a sick joke of those lost.
    http://theedgechronicles.wikia.com/wiki/Twilight_Woods
    The Stone Gardens: Where the Santaphrax scholars retrieve the Flight-Stones necessary for flight.
    http://theedgechronicles.wikia.com/wiki/Stone_Gardens


    The Factions:


    The Sky Pirates: The Sky Pirates are what every child fantasizes being. The majority of the Pirates believe themselves to be noble heroes, as do a lot of the Edge's citizens, despite the illegal nature of their trade. Others believe they are selfish tyrants who believe that the law is beneath them.
    http://theedgechronicles.wikia.com/wiki/Sky_Pirates


    The League of Merchants: The League of Merchants are, as their name suggests, a league of merchants responsible for the organization and economy of Undertown. The League is corrupt, however, and incredibly competitive, and despises Sky Pirates, despite the fact that they may hire Sky Pirates to do their bidding.
    http://theedgechronicles.wikia.com/wiki/League_of_Free_Merchants


    The Scholars of Santaphrax: The Scholars of Santaphrax are the academics of the Edgeworld. There are many different colleges on the giant floating rock. The main college is the Cloud Scholarship, which mainly focuses on meteorology. The Earth Scholarship, long exiled, once studied the geography, flora, and fauna of the Edgeworld.
    http://theedgechronicles.wikia.com/wiki/Sky-Scholarship
    http://theedgechronicles.wikia.com/wiki/Earth-Scholarship
    http://theedgechronicles.wikia.com/wiki/Sky-Scholarship


    Sentient Species of the Edgeworld:
    http://theedgechronicles.wikia.com/wiki/Elves
    http://theedgechronicles.wikia.com/wiki/Trolls
    http://theedgechronicles.wikia.com/wiki/Goblins
    http://theedgechronicles.wikia.com/wiki/Waifs
    http://theedgechronicles.wikia.com/wiki/Fourthling

    Animal Species of the Edgeworld:
    http://theedgechronicles.wikia.com/wiki/Animals_of_the_Edge


    Plant Species:
    http://theedgechronicles.wikia.com/wiki/Plants_of_the_Edge


    Sky Ships: Sky ships are the most common, and effective, means of long range travel. Sky ships resemble large sailing ships with a large rock cradled in the center known as the Flight-Rock.
    http://theedgechronicles.wikia.com/wiki/Sky_Ships
    http://theedgechronicles.wikia.com/wiki/Flight-Rocks
     
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    Plumbum

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  • If I made an RP based around a Pokémon Journey, would it be popular? No doubt. But how about if I made an RP that existed as a deconstruction of the typical Pokémon Journey RP? I will decree that all characters have to be genre savvy and refer to standard tropes and clichés often used by Journey RPs? along with politely mocking the usual formula for a journey RP as well.

    I intend for the RP to be humorous in tone - and maybe a bit more of a "lighter" project than we're used to here. A much more causal experience with shorter posts than we're used to (but still within PC rules) - I don't plan for it to be a big timesink one could put hours into as much as a quick bit of fun on the side.

    It will simply be titled A Pokémon Journey Role-Playing Game.
     
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  • That could be interesting, not really something I would go for personally, but I'd still love to see a satirical roleplay in the RPC so I could read it and see how it goes. It sounds like a really interesting project.
     
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    @Plumbum the way you're suggesting it, it sounds risky to me; it's definitely not the route I'd take when making an RP. If it's a light-hearted RP you want to make, you better be ready for it to flop. But I say this without being entirely aware of the setting, so for all I know, it could be the greatest RP in the entire world xD That being said, if I'm fond of the setting, I might join myself. It appears to be a fun project.
     

    Plumbum

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  • After Lunea, I don't want to make anything too serious in case it flops... I do have something on a much grander scale in plotting, but I don't want to release it because I bet it's going to go splat. I'll probably do so anyway when it's ready though.
     
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    If I made an RP based around a Pokémon Journey, would it be popular? No doubt. But how about if I made an RP that existed as a deconstruction of the typical Pokémon Journey RP? I will decree that all characters have to be genre savvy and refer to standard tropes and clichés often used by Journey RPs? along with politely mocking the usual formula for a journey RP as well.

    I intend for the RP to be humorous in tone - and maybe a bit more of a "lighter" project than we're used to here. A much more causal experience with shorter posts than we're used to (but still within PC rules) - I don't plan for it to be a big timesink one could put hours into as much as a quick bit of fun on the side.

    It will simply be titled A Pokémon Journey Role-Playing Game.
    As someone who mostly GMs journey RPs, I love this idea. It could apply game mechanics to the RP unneccesarily harshly and everyone needs to wake up too late and miss the regular starters like Ash did etc xD If successful, this RP could be a pearl that people would want to look back at and read through in the future.

    Need any help fleshing it out? :)
     

    Plumbum

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  • Well, I'd love the help, although I'd be very sheepish in admitting I haven't exactly started... really anything on it. I have more "how I'd run it" than "what we'd do" if that makes sense.

    Granted, to a degree, "Archetypical Journey RP" sort of explains itself, which is why I felt okay to put this post up without much planning at all.
     
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    (Drakath)

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  • I still need to make it look nice but how's this?

    Title: Shadow Shards

    Story: This is the Zytran region. A region full of very unique pokemon. From the big cities to the calm villages, the large forests, the cool lakes, the tall mountains and caves, to the beautiful beaches and fields, Zytran is a very beautiful place. Because of the fact that it's location is unknown to the the rest of the world, this region is the home to many unheard of Pokèmon. There are 10 villages, 20 secret areas, 30 cities, 40 areas (ex: Viridian Forest or Twist Mountain), and 50 routes.

    Recently, Zytran was thrown into chaos. There is a war between the Shadow Triad and The Resistance. The Shadow Triad are trying to take over the region and find the sacred Shadow Shards. The Shadow Shards possess an unknown power according to the legends. The shards are scattered across the land, each one with a trial and a guardian protecting them. It is said that when all of the Shadow Shards are together, the Chaos Shadow Diamond is formed. Unfortunately all further information about the diamond was destroyed by the Legendary Guardian of the Chaos Shadow Diamond.

    The Resistance is trying to stop the Shadow Triad and save the region. They are searching for the shards' guardians in order to discover the location of the Legendary Guardian. When they find the Legendary Guardian they plan to gain its help in defending the region. They are losing this war and the Legendary Guardian is their last hope of saving the region and possibly the only thing capable of stopping the Shadow Triad.

    The Survivors are the ones that are just trying to stay alive, not supporting either side. They all are trying to find the Shadow Shards for their own special reason. The Survivors are made up of many groups, each with different intentions. They mostly stay in the wilderness to avoid conflict but will go into the cities if they need to. The Survivors are mostly rouge trainers or civilians who were forced into this situation.

    The League still exists even with the war going on. They don't care about the shards, they just want to enjoy Pokèmon for as long as they can. The League consists of the Pokèmon League, Trainers, Cordinators, ect. There are 16 badges and 12 contest ribbons.

    You: You are a part of one of the 5 factions (The League, The Resistance, Shadow Triad, Survivors, Civilians). Your goal is the appropriate goal of your chosen faction. May you be a part of The League, The Resistance, Shadow Triad, Survivors, or the Civilians, your ultimate goal is your choice.

    Rules:
    You are only allowed to use Fakemon. I recommend the ones from this page http://fakemon-creators.deviantart.com/

    Don't overdo gore, and romance is allowed but keep the in bed moments private.

    I will unlock areas when requested to.

    Follow all PC and RP Corner rules

    There are no levels in this game, evolutions and new moves will be handed out based on progress during the RP.

    Attempts to catch/gain a Pokèmon are decided by me, so make it a good battle or have a good reason for the Pokèmon to join you. (I won't be harsh on your captures)

    No guns. Even though there is a war, we still use Pokèmon instead of guns.

    Be fair, don't make your character overly unbeatable, and never bunny another player's character without their permission.
     
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  • @Drakath

    Your story sounds very interesting and I admit I have never seen a fakemon-based RP. My major concerns at this stage though are the enormity of the region, number of gyms/ribbons and use of the Shadow Triad.

    1. A region as big as this one would be impossible to hide from the rest of the world for one thing, but ignoring that there's also the consideration of keeping track of players and of timeframes in such an enormous environment. This would be hell to GM as a sandbox and insanely long if chapter-based.

    2. The number of gyms and ribbon opportunities is also a problem. If you try to cram too much into an RP it becomes to complex, not only for players but also for the GM to manage.

    3. My only problems with using the Shadow Triad are that there would only be three enemies (and the original triad are loyal only to Ghetsis with no motives of their own anyway) and also, how did villains from Unova discover this secret region?

    Overall you've got a really interesting concept, but it needs a lot of scaling down to work. You've made the common error of trying to cram as much exciting and interesting stuff in as you can without considering the mechanics of the RP. Once you've developed your story, refined the RP and scaled down this sounds like it would be a lot of fun though. :)
     
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    The problem with Fakemon roleplays is that if people aren't familiar with the basics things can get very confusing :(. Meanwhile, for official pokemon (and regions, towns, etc) there are resources to turn to, so everyone can have one, unified vision.

    The story you have is pretty interesting though - it seems a bit out of place with the pokemon theme. The idea of a magic-orientated (am I reading this right?) group trying to bring darkness through collecting powerful items is pretty high-fantasy. Maybe it would be best to drop the pokemon/fakemon all together?
     

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  • @Drakath

    Your story sounds very interesting and I admit I have never seen a fakemon-based RP. My major concerns at this stage though are the enormity of the region, number of gyms/ribbons and use of the Shadow Triad.

    1. A region as big as this one would be impossible to hide from the rest of the world for one thing, but ignoring that there's also the consideration of keeping track of players and of timeframes in such an enormous environment. This would be hell to GM as a sandbox and insanely long if chapter-based.

    2. The number of gyms and ribbon opportunities is also a problem. If you try to cram too much into an RP it becomes to complex, not only for players but also for the GM to manage.

    3. My only problems with using the Shadow Triad are that there would only be three enemies (and the original triad are loyal only to Ghetsis with no motives of their own anyway) and also, how did villains from Unova discover this secret region?

    1. I'll make the region smaller. (I got really excited towards the end when I made the size) I really should have thought about that.

    2. I was going to suggest using notepad like things (I have a notepad app to keep track of everything I need to remember in roleplays)

    3. This happens before black and white so this -> "The Shadow Triad are completely loyal to Ghetsis because he once saved their lives." <- (from bulbapedia) hasn't happened yet. Also I plan to make them originate here and be a very large clan. Since this is before black and white, I should have some freedom.

    The problem with Fakemon roleplays is that if people aren't familiar with the basics things can get very confusing :(. Meanwhile, for official pokemon (and regions, towns, etc) there are resources to turn to, so everyone can have one, unified vision.

    The story you have is pretty interesting though - it seems a bit out of place with the pokemon theme. The idea of a magic-orientated (am I reading this right?) group trying to bring darkness through collecting powerful items is pretty high-fantasy. Maybe it would be best to drop the pokemon/fakemon all together?

    The Fakemon are a big part of the RP but I'll try to keep it traditional and not too complicated. No one knows how to use the shards and the reason The League is a faction is to keep the Pokèmon aspect alive. I'm not planning on having any shard related magic/chaos until far into the RP.
     
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    Oddball_

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  • Hello. So I have had an idea for a RP: The 5 or so characters all wake up in seperate rooms of Oaks research lab, which has caught on fire thanks to a destruction bent, half mechanical black Charizard. The group finds the bodies of the Pallet town people all scatteree about the decimated town. The group begins to form an uneasy alliance as they can't remember the last 72 hours. Basically they venture through the ruins of Kanto as they try and escape Mecha-Charizard and recall what happened to bring them all to Pallet town in the first place... anyway If this were to be a thing would you join?

    Edit: They would be in an apocalypse setting, so its more Final fantasy with Pokemon monsters and places. I havent decided wheather they can have Pokemon allies or not... They will fight with make-shift weapons they find/craft.
     
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  • @Oddball - Obviously you need to work out how gameplay would go and all that but the idea itself is pretty solid. It sounds like it could be a lot of fun.
     

    Khawill

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  • Rough concept, would like to hear opinions.
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    Turnip

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  • Rough concept, would like to hear opinions.
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    OOC threads are still important, I think - an RP can't really operate without one, unless you provide a link to a group pad or skype chat or whatever. If I were you, I'd probably include another, um... double-OOC thread? OOCOOC thread? Whatever works, but regardless, it'll be really tough to operate without some method of discussing concerns about the RP itself - which you can't really do in-character without serious damage to the fourth wall.
     

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  • OOC threads are still important, I think - an RP can't really operate without one, unless you provide a link to a group pad or skype chat or whatever. If I were you, I'd probably include another, um... double-OOC thread? OOCOOC thread? Whatever works, but regardless, it'll be really tough to operate without some method of discussing concerns about the RP itself - which you can't really do in-character without serious damage to the fourth wall.

    I certainly expect a lot of (hopefully witty) fourth wall busting.
     
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  • So... I've posted this before but nobody ever actually commented.
    In the spoiler below is a chunk of a pokemon/Btooom crossover RP that I wrote up and am hoping to post in the next little while. Thoughts? Critiques?

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    I haven't posted the rules or SU sections, or the types of pokeball available. I will however do so if you ask me to.
     

    (Drakath)

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  • I came up with this in 2-3 hours, what do you think?

    Title: The Kakizari University

    Story: One day new experimental school called "The Kakizari University" was created in Tokyo. The school was made to test the effectiveness of having all grades in one big school. The school was built like a very large university with a giant fence around it. They separated K-5, 6-8, 9-12, and the college years into different buildings. K-5 are on the west side of the school, 6-8 are on the east side of the school, 9-12 are on the south side of the school, and the highers are on the north side of the school.

    The dorms are in the middle of the school grounds, separated into 4 buildings with K-5 west, 6-8 east, 9-12 south, and the highers north. The playground is behind the K-5 building. The staff building is behind the 9-12 building, in front of the entrance. The cafeteria is in the southeast part of the school closer to the middle of the school. The garden is in the northeast corner of the school. The arcade is in the southwest part of the school. The gym is behind the highers building. The library is in the northwest corner of the school.

    The students are generally apart of the 5 social classes. The Rebels hang out at the arcade. The Jocks hang out at the gym. The Nerds hang out at the library. The Popular people hang out at the cafeteria. The Loners hang out around the garden. Those who don't join the social classes often stay at the dorms.

    You: You are a member of this school. You work here or are a student here. Whether you are a Rebel, Jock, Nerd, Popular, Loner, or neither, you make your own story. Everyone's decisions decide how this school year turns out.

    Welcome to The Kakizari University!

    Rules:
    PC and RP Corner rules apply.

    You can do pretty much whenever you want, but don't go overboard.

    You can go wherever you want, but if you leave the city notify me first.

    Don't kill other players (NPCs are fair game), assault is allowed as long as there isn't permanent damage without permission.


    I also came up with this as an idea to RP.

    Title: Star Wars: The Phantom Menace

    Story:
    The Phantom Menace

    A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away...

    Turmoil has engulfed the
    Galactic Republic. The taxation
    of trade routes to outlying star
    systems is in dispute.

    Hoping to resolve the matter
    with a blockade of deadly
    battleships, the greedy Trade
    Federation has stopped all
    shipping to the small planet
    of Naboo.

    While the Congress of the
    Republic endlessly debates
    this alarming chain of events,
    the Supreme Chancellor has
    secretly dispatched two Jedi
    Knights, the guardians of
    peace and justice in the
    galaxy, to settle the conflict.

    Meanwhile.....​

    You: You are a part of the 3 factions of the war. The Light Side (Good), Neutral, The Dark Side (Evil). Your goal is the goal of your chosen faction but you might have your own personal goal within your faction. Whether you work alone or in a team, you have a part to play in this war.

    Rules:
    Follow all PC and RP Corner rules.

    Low amount of gore (Star Wars has little to no gore)

    Don't kill another player without permission.

    You can change factions, make it an acceptable change.

    Be fair, don't make your character overly unbeatable, and never bunny another player's character without their permission.

    To keep track of everything I recommend a notepad app (but use whatever you are comfortable with)
     
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